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Re: 4/2- Game 75: Mavericks (45-29) @ Warriors (40-34) 7pm TNT

Posted: Wed Apr 3, 2024 4:47 am
by ILOVEIT
wco81 wrote:
vvoland wrote:
jaymo123 wrote:
Should have been called for the travel.


That's a stretch. Did he shuffle his feet, probably. Did he have the ball cleanly on the catch, not so sure. Was he bumped? Probably. These refs allowed Steph to get assaulted tonight so I'll take one 50/50 call that went our way, especially after that atrocious call on dray



Haters looking for any way to scapegoat Klay, even on what would have been a bad call.

They'd even take two consecutive bad calls against the Warriors by the refs, as long as Klay comes out looking worse.


lol at the term "haters" for Klay. He's been AWFUL most of the year. He was bad tonight. He took some incredibly off balance hero threes in the fourth. He took a dumb ass three lasts game with the lead under 25 seconds and he got blocked on another possession under 25 again. He sucks....deal...and he get's the softest fan base there is.

Re: 4/2- Game 75: Mavericks (45-29) @ Warriors (40-34) 7pm TNT

Posted: Wed Apr 3, 2024 4:48 am
by vvoland
wco81 wrote:
cpower wrote:
vvoland wrote:
The blocked layup was one, what was the second?

chucking those threes while drifting in the air? god what is his % on these? like 10%?



Klay shot poorly.

Curry shot even worse.

He tried a step back on two tall forwards in the second half. That not chucking?

Or you're just eager to take another shot at Klay, like he's the only one taking bad shots.


The board that treats Klay like he slapped it's mother (do message boards have mothers? Coffee shops bulletin boards, maybe..). That said, cpower jumped the shark. I'm pretty sure he roots against klay and not for the dubs.

Re: 4/2- Game 75: Mavericks (45-29) @ Warriors (40-34) 7pm TNT

Posted: Wed Apr 3, 2024 4:49 am
by Coxy
Another win, 5 in a row, awesome.

Re: 4/2- Game 75: Mavericks (45-29) @ Warriors (40-34) 7pm TNT

Posted: Wed Apr 3, 2024 4:51 am
by vvoland
ILOVEIT wrote:
wco81 wrote:
vvoland wrote:
That's a stretch. Did he shuffle his feet, probably. Did he have the ball cleanly on the catch, not so sure. Was he bumped? Probably. These refs allowed Steph to get assaulted tonight so I'll take one 50/50 call that went our way, especially after that atrocious call on dray



Haters looking for any way to scapegoat Klay, even on what would have been a bad call.

They'd even take two consecutive bad calls against the Warriors by the refs, as long as Klay comes out looking worse.


lol at the term "haters" for Klay. He's been AWFUL most of the year. He was bad tonight. He took some incredibly off balance hero threes in the fourth. He took a dumb ass three lasts game with the lead under 25 seconds and he got blocked on another possession under 25 again. He sucks....deal...and he get's the softest fan base there is.



You keep saying this and it's just embarrassingly wrong. That shot was with 40 seconds left (and 14 on the shot clock). It was the only FG we made in the last 2:30 and it clinched the game. There's plenty to complain about with Klay, pick a different play, it just makes it seem like you don't know the rules or the game

Re: 4/2- Game 75: Mavericks (45-29) @ Warriors (40-34) 7pm TNT

Posted: Wed Apr 3, 2024 4:52 am
by Crazy-Canuck
Does the team hold jk out longer?

We are a better team with Wiggins getting more touches and moody getting more minutes. We actually have an identity based on defense.

Re: 4/2- Game 75: Mavericks (45-29) @ Warriors (40-34) 7pm TNT

Posted: Wed Apr 3, 2024 4:52 am
by DAWill1128
Thought the broadcasters made a good point, the teams played pretty well lately.

Before February 20-24
Since February 21-10

Re: 4/2- Game 75: Mavericks (45-29) @ Warriors (40-34) 7pm TNT

Posted: Wed Apr 3, 2024 4:55 am
by cpower
wco81 wrote:
cpower wrote:
vvoland wrote:
The blocked layup was one, what was the second?

chucking those threes while drifting in the air? god what is his % on these? like 10%?



Klay shot poorly.

Curry shot even worse.

He tried a step back on two tall forwards in the second half. That not chucking?

Or you're just eager to take another shot at Klay, like he's the only one taking bad shots.

are you really comparing Curry shot selection to Klay's? There is nothing wrong with Currys shot selection he is just not as good as making them....Klay on the other hands, he should not even attempt half of the shots he puts up...he cares about his FGA more than anything

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/warriors-plus-minus-leader

Re: 4/2- Game 75: Mavericks (45-29) @ Warriors (40-34) 7pm TNT

Posted: Wed Apr 3, 2024 4:55 am
by vvoland
DAWill1128 wrote:Thought the broadcasters made a good point, the teams played pretty well lately.

Before February 20-24
Since February 21-10


In completely unrelated news, dray came back in mid Jan and has stayed out of trouble since.

Re: 4/2- Game 75: Mavericks (45-29) @ Warriors (40-34) 7pm TNT

Posted: Wed Apr 3, 2024 4:57 am
by wco81
ILOVEIT wrote:
wco81 wrote:
vvoland wrote:
That's a stretch. Did he shuffle his feet, probably. Did he have the ball cleanly on the catch, not so sure. Was he bumped? Probably. These refs allowed Steph to get assaulted tonight so I'll take one 50/50 call that went our way, especially after that atrocious call on dray



Haters looking for any way to scapegoat Klay, even on what would have been a bad call.

They'd even take two consecutive bad calls against the Warriors by the refs, as long as Klay comes out looking worse.


lol at the term "haters" for Klay. He's been AWFUL most of the year. He was bad tonight. He took some incredibly off balance hero threes in the fourth. He took a dumb ass three lasts game with the lead under 25 seconds and he got blocked on another possession under 25 again. He sucks....deal...and he get's the softest fan base there is.



Right.

Klay is mainly the reason the Warriors are #10 in the WC this year.

There's plenty to criticize about the team but the haters go in big on Klay and Kerr for giving him minutes.

Re: 4/2- Game 75: Mavericks (45-29) @ Warriors (40-34) 7pm TNT

Posted: Wed Apr 3, 2024 4:58 am
by watch1958
First win against a good Western Conference team in awhile. Nice to see.

Re: 4/2- Game 75: Mavericks (45-29) @ Warriors (40-34) 7pm TNT

Posted: Wed Apr 3, 2024 4:58 am
by DAWill1128
vvoland wrote:
DAWill1128 wrote:Thought the broadcasters made a good point, the teams played pretty well lately.

Before February 20-24
Since February 21-10


In completely unrelated news, dray came back in mid Jan and has stayed out of trouble since.


Lol, they are 30-19 with Dray.

Re: 4/2- Game 75: Mavericks (45-29) @ Warriors (40-34) 7pm TNT

Posted: Wed Apr 3, 2024 4:58 am
by vvoland
Crazy-Canuck wrote:Does the team hold jk out longer?

We are a better team with Wiggins getting more touches and moody getting more minutes. We actually have an identity based on defense.


I'm starting to wonder about this as well. He's been a net positive since late Dec but I wonder if they're being super, duper, extra careful considering how well they've played in his absence.

More realistically, the medical staff just wanted to give him a week off.

Re: 4/2- Game 75: Mavericks (45-29) @ Warriors (40-34) 7pm TNT

Posted: Wed Apr 3, 2024 4:58 am
by Onus
Crazy-Canuck wrote:Does the team hold jk out longer?

We are a better team with Wiggins getting more touches and moody getting more minutes. We actually have an identity based on defense.

They already said he’s playing Thursday. Will be interesting what the rotations are

Re: 4/2- Game 75: Mavericks (45-29) @ Warriors (40-34) 7pm TNT

Posted: Wed Apr 3, 2024 5:00 am
by watch1958
Also, I am not really interested in “having a cushion” versus Houston. I want to whip them and nail the coffin shut.

Re: 4/2- Game 75: Mavericks (45-29) @ Warriors (40-34) 7pm TNT

Posted: Wed Apr 3, 2024 5:01 am
by Onus
Also John gobble and jacyn goble hate us. They’re some of the worst refs against us.

Re: 4/2- Game 75: Mavericks (45-29) @ Warriors (40-34) 7pm TNT

Posted: Wed Apr 3, 2024 5:01 am
by vvoland
DAWill1128 wrote:
vvoland wrote:
DAWill1128 wrote:Thought the broadcasters made a good point, the teams played pretty well lately.

Before February 20-24
Since February 21-10


In completely unrelated news, dray came back in mid Jan and has stayed out of trouble since.


Lol, they are 30-19 with Dray. Not a bad team.


That record probably includes the losses where he got tossed and those games they blew against OKC (2x) and sac with dray.. it should probably be closer to 35-14 or something

Re: 4/2- Game 75: Mavericks (45-29) @ Warriors (40-34) 7pm TNT

Posted: Wed Apr 3, 2024 5:02 am
by vvoland
Onus wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:Does the team hold jk out longer?

We are a better team with Wiggins getting more touches and moody getting more minutes. We actually have an identity based on defense.

They already said he’s playing Thursday. Will be interesting what the rotations are


It makes sense, we need the athleticism against hou more than we did tonight.

Re: 4/2- Game 75: Mavericks (45-29) @ Warriors (40-34) 7pm TNT

Posted: Wed Apr 3, 2024 5:03 am
by cpower
wco81 wrote:
ILOVEIT wrote:
wco81 wrote:

Haters looking for any way to scapegoat Klay, even on what would have been a bad call.

They'd even take two consecutive bad calls against the Warriors by the refs, as long as Klay comes out looking worse.


lol at the term "haters" for Klay. He's been AWFUL most of the year. He was bad tonight. He took some incredibly off balance hero threes in the fourth. He took a dumb ass three lasts game with the lead under 25 seconds and he got blocked on another possession under 25 again. He sucks....deal...and he get's the softest fan base there is.



Right.

Klay is mainly the reason the Warriors are #10 in the WC this year.

There's plenty to criticize about the team but the haters go in big on Klay and Kerr for giving him minutes.

well Klay gets plenty of blame here, he is 2nd in mins but at the bottom in terms of any advance stat. Wiggins was bad but he turned it around but Klay remain terrible most of the season. Just look at the raw plus minus, you cant hide him on this roster, starting or from the bench. He is not even as good as JJ reddick at 34 that says a lot.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/warriors-plus-minus-leader

Re: 4/2- Game 75: Mavericks (45-29) @ Warriors (40-34) 7pm TNT

Posted: Wed Apr 3, 2024 5:05 am
by Crazy-Canuck
vvoland wrote:
Onus wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:Does the team hold jk out longer?

We are a better team with Wiggins getting more touches and moody getting more minutes. We actually have an identity based on defense.

They already said he’s playing Thursday. Will be interesting what the rotations are


It makes sense, we need the athleticism against hou more than we did tonight.


How much of that athleticism do we need if it also means getting 2 or 3 of of wiggins, moody, gp2, and tjd off the floor. Kerrs default has been 3 guards + jk+ dray.

Wiggins, moody, and gp2 are only getting more minutes because jk is out.

Re: 4/2- Game 75: Mavericks (45-29) @ Warriors (40-34) 7pm TNT

Posted: Wed Apr 3, 2024 5:06 am
by CDM_Stats
Klay leads the team in undeserved minutes and is the main character in Kerr's failure to adapt to his surroundings, like Poole and Oubre before him, bad BBIQ and lack of defensive hustle can have disastrous effects on the team defense. Its on paper, its on the court.. been in consistent decline since he came back from injury and his minutes and role have been unimpeachable to Kerr except for a several week stint where Podz supplanted him, one where both the starters and bench looked better. So of course we scrapped it

No idea why people take it personal but Klay is bar none, the biggest problem on the team, and its Kerr's usage thats driving it. And both are getting crushed in the court of public opinion for it, and deservedly so. Its indefensible