It's TIME! 24 Draft

[CDM_Stats]

Steph is an alltimer, and if there is an exception, he's it.

BUT

Havent we done enough of this 2 timeline ****? Either push for a quick reload or go for a rebuild. Half-measures are how we got deeper into this mess

Not really.
No accountability for vets is how we got deeper into this mess.

The decline of hofers was always inevitable.

Even if Klay was benched, and whatever people want to say would be holding Dray accountable happened.. turning the #2, #7 and #14 into a legitimate 2nd or 3rd tier star would have been way more impactful, because of the reason you mentioned. Their aging decline was inevitable. And the Warriors chose to supplement them with draft picks instead of trading for win-now guys. They even won a ring despite that, so they were clearly leaving value on the table. But them choosing to straddle the fence, have their cake and eat it too, however its framed - that was the biggest mistake they could have made. Drafting to win is extremely inefficient compared to trades, and now instead of having an aged team that's either clearly trying to win or clearly on their way out, the team is bobbing in the middle of the league - the worst place to be

And at this stage we know they're going to lean into it. Wont contend but wont rebuild. Lingering effects from them truly believing their own sales pitch about being way ahead of the rest of the league.. and this is just the beginning. Now we're looking at giving a big contract to a pretty limited player on top of it. We're barreling towards the Great Timeout era again.. only saving grace is that Dunleavy has made several sharp moves since taking over

[Onus]

Steph is an alltimer, and if there is an exception, he's it.

BUT

Havent we done enough of this 2 timeline ****? Either push for a quick reload or go for a rebuild. Half-measures are how we got deeper into this mess

Not really.
No accountability for vets is how we got deeper into this mess.

The decline of hofers was always inevitable.

Even if Klay was benched, and whatever people want to say would be holding Dray accountable happened.. turning the #2, #7 and #14 into a legitimate 2nd or 3rd tier star would have been way more impactful, because of the reason you mentioned. Their aging decline was inevitable. And the Warriors chose to supplement them with draft picks instead of trading for win-now guys. They even won a ring despite that, so they were clearly leaving value on the table. But them choosing to straddle the fence, have their cake and eat it too, however its framed - that was the biggest mistake they could have made. Drafting to win is extremely inefficient compared to trades, and now instead of having an aged team that's either clearly trying to win or clearly on their way out, the team is bobbing in the middle of the league - the worst place to be

And at this stage we know they're going to lean into it. Wont contend but wont rebuild. Lingering effects from them truly believing their own sales pitch about being way ahead of the rest of the league.. and this is just the beginning. Now we're looking at giving a big contract to a pretty limited player on top of it. We're barreling towards the Great Timeout era again.. only saving grace is that Dunleavy has made several sharp moves since taking over

Getting 2 bench players out of 3 lottery picks has been by far the biggest hindrance to whatever it is we want to do moving forward.

[EvanZ]

There's no timeline for these young guys that makes them winners while Steph is still close to his prime.

Disagree.

Title winners? Playoff winners?

Wiggins is 29, JK/Moody will be in their 4th season. Trade Draymond for a Rui/Vando type trade, and Podz/TJD can be roll players. Add a MLE player and a couple of vet mins, that team can be a playoff team or at the very least a much more entertaining one.

No need for Curry to wear another jersey.

Bro DeMayo still out here talking about Wiggins

[azwfan]

Steph is an alltimer, and if there is an exception, he's it.

BUT

Havent we done enough of this 2 timeline ****? Either push for a quick reload or go for a rebuild. Half-measures are how we got deeper into this mess

Not really.
No accountability for vets is how we got deeper into this mess.

The decline of hofers was always inevitable.

Even if Klay was benched, and whatever people want to say would be holding Dray accountable happened.. turning the #2, #7 and #14 into a legitimate 2nd or 3rd tier star would have been way more impactful, because of the reason you mentioned. Their aging decline was inevitable. And the Warriors chose to supplement them with draft picks instead of trading for win-now guys. They even won a ring despite that, so they were clearly leaving value on the table. But them choosing to straddle the fence, have their cake and eat it too, however its framed - that was the biggest mistake they could have made. Drafting to win is extremely inefficient compared to trades, and now instead of having an aged team that's either clearly trying to win or clearly on their way out, the team is bobbing in the middle of the league - the worst place to be

And at this stage we know they're going to lean into it. Wont contend but wont rebuild. Lingering effects from them truly believing their own sales pitch about being way ahead of the rest of the league.. and this is just the beginning. Now we're looking at giving a big contract to a pretty limited player on top of it. We're barreling towards the Great Timeout era again.. only saving grace is that Dunleavy has made several sharp moves since taking over

The lack of accountability, i’d argue, affected basically all of those lottery picks PLUS the locker room.


1) no accountability for the big 3 careless play directly lead to Jordan Poole’s reckless play, and then to his attitude when he’s getting yelled at for doing the same things the “core” does. (Not even going into the obvious Draymond assault)

2) Wiseman given a starting role without even going through a practice. Wonder what that does for the locker room. Then of course folks turn on the kid when he inevitably fails.

3) JP’s bestie Wiggins sees the double standard. Would not be surprised if that is a contributing factor to his inconsistent play.

4) Coddling Klay and Draymond’s ego.

5) JK and Moody playing time which has been discussed to death.

Just an overall failure to adapt, by the coaching staff and by extention the players.


Watching Dallas go to the conference finals is hilarious to me. Cause they are starting 2 guys who it is debatable whether Kerr would play them at all. Gafford and Jones. And Luka is not a fit for our system. Neither is KAT, Gobert, nor Ant. Interesting how the core of the wcf teams arent a fit for the system of the 10th seed. Maybe its the system that needs adjusting.

[azwfan]

DDV starting in the playoffs did well. Not good enough to start ahead of Klay here though.

Oubre was terrible in our system. He could play for a playoff team though.

[whatisacenter]

There's no timeline for these young guys that makes them winners while Steph is still close to his prime.

Disagree.

Title winners? Playoff winners?

Wiggins is 29, JK/Moody will be in their 4th season. Trade Draymond for a Rui/Vando type trade, and Podz/TJD can be roll players. Add a MLE player and a couple of vet mins, that team can be a playoff team or at the very least a much more entertaining one.

No need for Curry to wear another jersey.

Bro DeMayo still out here talking about Wiggins

Cute, yes I want to see what Wiggins would look like on a team without Draymond and more athleticism. At his contract I don’t see a trade that would fill an athletic wing slot which the team needs more of.

But if I had to guess, the team will probably try to attach an asset the Wiggs and keep the core together for more exciting 10-12 seed enjoyment.

[bicycle]

Steph is an alltimer, and if there is an exception, he's it.

BUT

Havent we done enough of this 2 timeline ****? Either push for a quick reload or go for a rebuild. Half-measures are how we got deeper into this mess

Not really.
No accountability for vets is how we got deeper into this mess.

The decline of hofers was always inevitable.

Even if Klay was benched, and whatever people want to say would be holding Dray accountable happened.. turning the #2, #7 and #14 into a legitimate 2nd or 3rd tier star would have been way more impactful, because of the reason you mentioned. Their aging decline was inevitable. And the Warriors chose to supplement them with draft picks instead of trading for win-now guys. They even won a ring despite that, so they were clearly leaving value on the table. But them choosing to straddle the fence, have their cake and eat it too, however its framed - that was the biggest mistake they could have made. Drafting to win is extremely inefficient compared to trades, and now instead of having an aged team that's either clearly trying to win or clearly on their way out, the team is bobbing in the middle of the league - the worst place to be

And at this stage we know they're going to lean into it. Wont contend but wont rebuild. Lingering effects from them truly believing their own sales pitch about being way ahead of the rest of the league.. and this is just the beginning. Now we're looking at giving a big contract to a pretty limited player on top of it. We're barreling towards the Great Timeout era again.. only saving grace is that Dunleavy has made several sharp moves since taking over

Drafting to win now is indeed inefficient, but being the biggest payroll in the league buys some room for inefficiency. They took it too far rostering Baldwin and Rollins when those guys weren't even lottery picks but that title team had plenty of talent both starting and on the bench, even though looking back it was kinda built with scraps. We got lucky getting that kind of contribution from some of those guys.

And yeah they should pick a direction and that direction should be rebuild. These conversations about how Steph still has it and the team it's crazy for not going all in are just going to be sillier when he turns 37 next March.

[CDM_Stats]

And yeah they should pick a direction and that direction should be rebuild. These conversations about how Steph still has it and the team it's crazy for not going all in are just going to be sillier when he turns 37 next March.

It means trading Steph should be a very real consideration. While yeah, its a great feeling and future Trivial Pursuit answer, if an offer for Steph comes through that gives us significant draft capital going forward and gives him an opportunity to legitimately try for a title.. I would do it. Sentimentality is an anchor, and teams that have eschewed it have been rewarded. Boston did it and are having their SECOND series of runs at a title thanks to trading Al Jefferson and a glut of mediocrity for KG in 2007

If you want to stay in the Bay Area, the 9ers traded Joe Montana and change for a 1st rounder that became a ROY and DPOTY, as well as a Super Bowl winner

It's definitely shouting into the void, but there's no point in trying to rebuild around Steph at this stage. So either trade all the vets and really rebuild, or push for a championship (while trying to keep as many picks as possible). Anything less is a half measure and as nice and fuzzy as it might feel, those things kill teams

[Onus]

Draft any of the below and I'll be happy

Dadiet - the only real project on this list but also the youngest. Highest upside though. 6'8'' wing that can create his own shot mostly for pull ups right now.
Karaban - best big 4 shooter. Elite movement on offense which will scale well in our offense. Will open up a ton of lanes for everyone because of his movement.
Mitchell - 6'5'' combo guard - needs to up his 3 volume but the form is there and is a playmaker.
Bridges - 3d wing
Watson - lockdown defensive wing, that reads the game really well. Has quick feet even though he looks like he's loafing around, but he really moves those puppies when he needs to. Gets his hands on a lot of loose balls. Reads the game well and makes connective reads really quickly. If he can prove his 3 is for real, he's a steal.
Clifford - lockdown wing. we can use a poa defender who can take advantage of being left alone.
Hawkins - big shooter, who can pass. Not the most physical player. But we can use a big that can shoot.

[azwfan]

Draft any of the below and I'll be happy

Dadiet - the only real project on this list but also the youngest. Highest upside though. 6'8'' wing that can create his own shot mostly for pull ups right now.
Karaban - best big 4 shooter. Elite movement on offense which will scale well in our offense. Will open up a ton of lanes for everyone because of his movement.
Mitchell - 6'5'' combo guard - needs to up his 3 volume but the form is there and is a playmaker.
Bridges - 3d wing
Watson - lockdown defensive wing, that reads the game really well. Has quick feet even though he looks like he's loafing around, but he really moves those puppies when he needs to. Gets his hands on a lot of loose balls. Reads the game well and makes connective reads really quickly. If he can prove his 3 is for real, he's a steal.
Clifford - lockdown wing. we can use a poa defender who can take advantage of being left alone.
Hawkins - big shooter, who can pass. Not the most physical player. But we can use a big that can shoot.

Ill trust your evals. For me, if we draft anyone who a year from now we consider to be part of our young core, its a huge win.

In general i want positional size / length from whoever we draft.

Any thoughts on Harrison Ingram and Keshad Johnson.

Back when I was worried about fit, i thought Ingram would be a good fit for us. Johnson looks like a big athletic wing.

[Onus]

Draft any of the below and I'll be happy

Dadiet - the only real project on this list but also the youngest. Highest upside though. 6'8'' wing that can create his own shot mostly for pull ups right now.
Karaban - best big 4 shooter. Elite movement on offense which will scale well in our offense. Will open up a ton of lanes for everyone because of his movement.
Mitchell - 6'5'' combo guard - needs to up his 3 volume but the form is there and is a playmaker.
Bridges - 3d wing
Watson - lockdown defensive wing, that reads the game really well. Has quick feet even though he looks like he's loafing around, but he really moves those puppies when he needs to. Gets his hands on a lot of loose balls. Reads the game well and makes connective reads really quickly. If he can prove his 3 is for real, he's a steal.
Clifford - lockdown wing. we can use a poa defender who can take advantage of being left alone.
Hawkins - big shooter, who can pass. Not the most physical player. But we can use a big that can shoot.

Ill trust your evals. For me, if we draft anyone who a year from now we consider to be part of our young core, its a huge win.

In general i want positional size / length from whoever we draft.

Any thoughts on Harrison Ingram and Keshad Johnson.

Back when I was worried about fit, i thought Ingram would be a good fit for us. Johnson looks like a big athletic wing.

Ingram to me is an undersized 4. Really depends on his shot is for real or not. Ft% isn’t great though. But his defense is avg not really a real difference maker on that end. Maybe he turns into grant williams?

Keshad is better defensively but still an undersized 4. Not really sure what he’s going to do offensively though. Obviously if he can shoot that opens things up for him but he’s taking mostly unguarded 3s doesn’t really handle or pass well. Just not sure he’ll bring much outside of his defense. Maybe a taller pj Tucker?

All the guys I mentioned have good/decent size for their position. Karaban/bridges being maybe an inch shorter than id like but have good wingspans to compensate and are elite to good shooters.

[superunknown]

Not really.
No accountability for vets is how we got deeper into this mess.

The decline of hofers was always inevitable.

Even if Klay was benched, and whatever people want to say would be holding Dray accountable happened.. turning the #2, #7 and #14 into a legitimate 2nd or 3rd tier star would have been way more impactful, because of the reason you mentioned. Their aging decline was inevitable. And the Warriors chose to supplement them with draft picks instead of trading for win-now guys. They even won a ring despite that, so they were clearly leaving value on the table. But them choosing to straddle the fence, have their cake and eat it too, however its framed - that was the biggest mistake they could have made. Drafting to win is extremely inefficient compared to trades, and now instead of having an aged team that's either clearly trying to win or clearly on their way out, the team is bobbing in the middle of the league - the worst place to be

And at this stage we know they're going to lean into it. Wont contend but wont rebuild. Lingering effects from them truly believing their own sales pitch about being way ahead of the rest of the league.. and this is just the beginning. Now we're looking at giving a big contract to a pretty limited player on top of it. We're barreling towards the Great Timeout era again.. only saving grace is that Dunleavy has made several sharp moves since taking over

The lack of accountability, i’d argue, affected basically all of those lottery picks PLUS the locker room.


1) no accountability for the big 3 careless play directly lead to Jordan Poole’s reckless play, and then to his attitude when he’s getting yelled at for doing the same things the “core” does. (Not even going into the obvious Draymond assault)

2) Wiseman given a starting role without even going through a practice. Wonder what that does for the locker room. Then of course folks turn on the kid when he inevitably fails.

3) JP’s bestie Wiggins sees the double standard. Would not be surprised if that is a contributing factor to his inconsistent play.

4) Coddling Klay and Draymond’s ego.

5) JK and Moody playing time which has been discussed to death.

Just an overall failure to adapt, by the coaching staff and by extention the players.


Watching Dallas go to the conference finals is hilarious to me. Cause they are starting 2 guys who it is debatable whether Kerr would play them at all. Gafford and Jones. And Luka is not a fit for our system. Neither is KAT, Gobert, nor Ant. Interesting how the core of the wcf teams arent a fit for the system of the 10th seed. Maybe its the system that needs adjusting.

you're both right.
one argument does not exclude the other. in fact they are complementary and the main reasons the team is in the current predicament.

[Scoots1994]

You guys are all in denial. What is the point of being "as good as possible" if it doesn't have anything to do with actually competing in the playoffs? Why not trade Steph for a haul of picks and do the rebuild correctly? Do you guys enjoy walking the treadmill of mediocrity? Actually below mediocrity, but not below enough to do anything about it.

Did I say that's what I wanted? No, I said that's what I think is most likely they do.

Yes, you implied that is what you want since you agreed (specifically you said "I'm almost ther") with people who said "there is no need to trade Steph".

So, please, by all means correct me. For the record, do you want them to trade Steph and start a true rebuild or continue down this path his last couple of seasons? Easy question that should have an easy answer. yes or no?

It's really easy to correct you since the comment I replied to didn't mention steph at all but it did specifically mention trading core players away as long as it didn't cost future picks to which I said "I'm pretty much there". But that's not actually relevant because your reply was specifically to my second paragraph where I said the line you quoted "as good as possible" which was very specifically what I thought they would do and no what I preferred.

Do you get anything out of being a troll? I just don't understand it.

[Scoots1994]

Steph is an alltimer, and if there is an exception, he's it.

BUT

Havent we done enough of this 2 timeline ****? Either push for a quick reload or go for a rebuild. Half-measures are how we got deeper into this mess

Not really.
No accountability for vets is how we got deeper into this mess.

The decline of hofers was always inevitable.

Even if Klay was benched, and whatever people want to say would be holding Dray accountable happened.. turning the #2, #7 and #14 into a legitimate 2nd or 3rd tier star would have been way more impactful, because of the reason you mentioned. Their aging decline was inevitable. And the Warriors chose to supplement them with draft picks instead of trading for win-now guys. They even won a ring despite that, so they were clearly leaving value on the table. But them choosing to straddle the fence, have their cake and eat it too, however its framed - that was the biggest mistake they could have made. Drafting to win is extremely inefficient compared to trades, and now instead of having an aged team that's either clearly trying to win or clearly on their way out, the team is bobbing in the middle of the league - the worst place to be

And at this stage we know they're going to lean into it. Wont contend but wont rebuild. Lingering effects from them truly believing their own sales pitch about being way ahead of the rest of the league.. and this is just the beginning. Now we're looking at giving a big contract to a pretty limited player on top of it. We're barreling towards the Great Timeout era again.. only saving grace is that Dunleavy has made several sharp moves since taking over

The problem with looking back is we tend to forget the realities of the past. I agree I would have liked to have better results from the drafts but that's not the way sports works. The cap and the tax and the NBA adjusting to the Warriors and veterans opting to not play for the Warriors are, to me, the main factors in the speeding up of the decline of the team. But that's exactly what the NBA intended when they wrote these rules. They didn't want dynasties and the wrote the rules to make it nearly impossible.

[azwfan]

Not really.
No accountability for vets is how we got deeper into this mess.

The decline of hofers was always inevitable.

Even if Klay was benched, and whatever people want to say would be holding Dray accountable happened.. turning the #2, #7 and #14 into a legitimate 2nd or 3rd tier star would have been way more impactful, because of the reason you mentioned. Their aging decline was inevitable. And the Warriors chose to supplement them with draft picks instead of trading for win-now guys. They even won a ring despite that, so they were clearly leaving value on the table. But them choosing to straddle the fence, have their cake and eat it too, however its framed - that was the biggest mistake they could have made. Drafting to win is extremely inefficient compared to trades, and now instead of having an aged team that's either clearly trying to win or clearly on their way out, the team is bobbing in the middle of the league - the worst place to be

And at this stage we know they're going to lean into it. Wont contend but wont rebuild. Lingering effects from them truly believing their own sales pitch about being way ahead of the rest of the league.. and this is just the beginning. Now we're looking at giving a big contract to a pretty limited player on top of it. We're barreling towards the Great Timeout era again.. only saving grace is that Dunleavy has made several sharp moves since taking over

The problem with looking back is we tend to forget the realities of the past. I agree I would have liked to have better results from the drafts but that's not the way sports works. The cap and the tax and the NBA adjusting to the Warriors and veterans opting to not play for the Warriors are, to me, the main factors in the speeding up of the decline of the team. But that's exactly what the NBA intended when they wrote these rules. They didn't want dynasties and the wrote the rules to make it nearly impossible.

Great post.
Additionally, we (this board and a lot of media) were busy blaming youth for the decline of the team, while giving the “core” the majority of the credit for any successes.

Example: This board and the media spent most of 2022-23 blaming Poole for the decline of the team. Yet, we had a better record without curry than with curry. And we were just as bad this season as last (after a great draft, and swapping Poole for a better player).

Newsflash, Klay was terrible in our most recent title year, and Draymond was so bad in the finals he got benched. Yet they wave around 4 fingers as if its all about them, and the Poole’s the antichrist after having the audacity to do exactly as the core does (talk a lot of sht (dray), be careless with the ball (curry and dray), and take terrible shots (curry and klay)).

This team wasnt going to age well with their careless (and fun) style of play. Poole, Loon, and Wiggins are huge reasons for that 4th ring Klay and Dray wave around.

[Onus]

Not really.
No accountability for vets is how we got deeper into this mess.

The decline of hofers was always inevitable.

Even if Klay was benched, and whatever people want to say would be holding Dray accountable happened.. turning the #2, #7 and #14 into a legitimate 2nd or 3rd tier star would have been way more impactful, because of the reason you mentioned. Their aging decline was inevitable. And the Warriors chose to supplement them with draft picks instead of trading for win-now guys. They even won a ring despite that, so they were clearly leaving value on the table. But them choosing to straddle the fence, have their cake and eat it too, however its framed - that was the biggest mistake they could have made. Drafting to win is extremely inefficient compared to trades, and now instead of having an aged team that's either clearly trying to win or clearly on their way out, the team is bobbing in the middle of the league - the worst place to be

And at this stage we know they're going to lean into it. Wont contend but wont rebuild. Lingering effects from them truly believing their own sales pitch about being way ahead of the rest of the league.. and this is just the beginning. Now we're looking at giving a big contract to a pretty limited player on top of it. We're barreling towards the Great Timeout era again.. only saving grace is that Dunleavy has made several sharp moves since taking over

The problem with looking back is we tend to forget the realities of the past. I agree I would have liked to have better results from the drafts but that's not the way sports works. The cap and the tax and the NBA adjusting to the Warriors and veterans opting to not play for the Warriors are, to me, the main factors in the speeding up of the decline of the team. But that's exactly what the NBA intended when they wrote these rules. They didn't want dynasties and the wrote the rules to make it nearly impossible.

What vets opted not to play for the warriors?

[CDM_Stats]

Not really.
No accountability for vets is how we got deeper into this mess.

The decline of hofers was always inevitable.

Even if Klay was benched, and whatever people want to say would be holding Dray accountable happened.. turning the #2, #7 and #14 into a legitimate 2nd or 3rd tier star would have been way more impactful, because of the reason you mentioned. Their aging decline was inevitable. And the Warriors chose to supplement them with draft picks instead of trading for win-now guys. They even won a ring despite that, so they were clearly leaving value on the table. But them choosing to straddle the fence, have their cake and eat it too, however its framed - that was the biggest mistake they could have made. Drafting to win is extremely inefficient compared to trades, and now instead of having an aged team that's either clearly trying to win or clearly on their way out, the team is bobbing in the middle of the league - the worst place to be

And at this stage we know they're going to lean into it. Wont contend but wont rebuild. Lingering effects from them truly believing their own sales pitch about being way ahead of the rest of the league.. and this is just the beginning. Now we're looking at giving a big contract to a pretty limited player on top of it. We're barreling towards the Great Timeout era again.. only saving grace is that Dunleavy has made several sharp moves since taking over

The problem with looking back is we tend to forget the realities of the past. I agree I would have liked to have better results from the drafts but that's not the way sports works. The cap and the tax and the NBA adjusting to the Warriors and veterans opting to not play for the Warriors are, to me, the main factors in the speeding up of the decline of the team. But that's exactly what the NBA intended when they wrote these rules. They didn't want dynasties and the wrote the rules to make it nearly impossible.

lol you think this is revisionist? A lot of us said this would happen..

[EvanZ]

Did I say that's what I wanted? No, I said that's what I think is most likely they do.

Yes, you implied that is what you want since you agreed (specifically you said "I'm almost ther") with people who said "there is no need to trade Steph".

So, please, by all means correct me. For the record, do you want them to trade Steph and start a true rebuild or continue down this path his last couple of seasons? Easy question that should have an easy answer. yes or no?

It's really easy to correct you since the comment I replied to didn't mention steph at all but it did specifically mention trading core players away as long as it didn't cost future picks to which I said "I'm pretty much there". But that's not actually relevant because your reply was specifically to my second paragraph where I said the line you quoted "as good as possible" which was very specifically what I thought they would do and no what I preferred.

Do you get anything out of being a troll? I just don't understand it.

Again, you can clear the record at any time. For the record, would you personally trade Steph? It's very simple yes or no.

[bicycle]

Yes, you implied that is what you want since you agreed (specifically you said "I'm almost ther") with people who said "there is no need to trade Steph".

So, please, by all means correct me. For the record, do you want them to trade Steph and start a true rebuild or continue down this path his last couple of seasons? Easy question that should have an easy answer. yes or no?

It's really easy to correct you since the comment I replied to didn't mention steph at all but it did specifically mention trading core players away as long as it didn't cost future picks to which I said "I'm pretty much there". But that's not actually relevant because your reply was specifically to my second paragraph where I said the line you quoted "as good as possible" which was very specifically what I thought they would do and no what I preferred.

Do you get anything out of being a troll? I just don't understand it.

Again, you can clear the record at any time. For the record, would you personally trade Steph? It's very simple yes or no.

I would. But I suspect that the return would be insultingly low. Dame is younger and after he got traded he disappointed. Curry would not likely get a higher price than that, despite being better.

[vvoland]

It's really easy to correct you since the comment I replied to didn't mention steph at all but it did specifically mention trading core players away as long as it didn't cost future picks to which I said "I'm pretty much there". But that's not actually relevant because your reply was specifically to my second paragraph where I said the line you quoted "as good as possible" which was very specifically what I thought they would do and no what I preferred.

Do you get anything out of being a troll? I just don't understand it.

Again, you can clear the record at any time. For the record, would you personally trade Steph? It's very simple yes or no.

I would. But I suspect that the return would be insultingly low. Dame is younger and after he got traded he disappointed. Curry would not likely get a higher price than that, despite being better.

Despite thinking "that the return would be insultingly low" you'd still trade him? That's pretty crazy.