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Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft

Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2024 1:26 am
by Scoots1994
Onus wrote:
Scoots1994 wrote:Don't much care for Edey (not likely to be there but who knows), Karaban, or Holmes mentioned above. Shannon is not likely to make the 2nd round unless things go wrong somewhere.

Harrison Ingram? Active, defense, rebounding, suspect shooting, could be good, could be just another guy. I like players who collect offensive boards.

Dillon Jones? He's a Warriors type, super smart, all-around game, not much of a shooter. Glue guy. Age will push him down.

Johni Broome? FT is bad but he's a maniac worker, is smart, and the Dubs need size.

The team seriously lacks shooting and you want more guys that can’t shoot?


Peja's son left Stanford ... maybe he can be convinced to enter the draft and be exclusive for the Warriors at 55 :lol:

Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft

Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2024 3:42 am
by Coxy
Onus wrote:
GSWFan1994 wrote:Do we even have a 2nd rounder this year?

I think pick 55


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Can we draft a future baby of Wembenyama's with that puke pick, or is that illegal?

Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft

Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2024 3:53 am
by Onus
Scoots1994 wrote:
Onus wrote:
Scoots1994 wrote:Don't much care for Edey (not likely to be there but who knows), Karaban, or Holmes mentioned above. Shannon is not likely to make the 2nd round unless things go wrong somewhere.

Harrison Ingram? Active, defense, rebounding, suspect shooting, could be good, could be just another guy. I like players who collect offensive boards.

Dillon Jones? He's a Warriors type, super smart, all-around game, not much of a shooter. Glue guy. Age will push him down.

Johni Broome? FT is bad but he's a maniac worker, is smart, and the Dubs need size.

The team seriously lacks shooting and you want more guys that can’t shoot?


I don't see anyone at 55 who can contribute more than just shooting, and of the shooters there are concerns about their ability to get open and get the shot off. I am hopeful that they can find some shooting in free agency.

Who do you want?

Karaban. Solid defensively and can shoot. Sign me up doesn’t hurt that he can pass and knows how to move off the ball.

Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft

Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2024 5:29 am
by whatisacenter
Justin Edwards if he falls.

Baylor Scheierman moves without the ball, moves the ball and is a lefty who can shoot.

Keshad Johnson is a guy who does a little bit of everything. Strong and sees the game.

Johni Broome just outworks guys.

Alex Karaban plays some D and can shoot it.

Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft

Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2024 6:26 am
by Crazy-Canuck
Read a scouting report that called Edy a Zaza with offense.

Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft

Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2024 6:35 am
by whatisacenter
Crazy-Canuck wrote:Read a scouting report that called Edy a Zaza with offense.


That scout should lose their job.

Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft

Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2024 12:50 pm
by Scoots1994
Onus wrote:
Scoots1994 wrote:
Onus wrote:The team seriously lacks shooting and you want more guys that can’t shoot?


I don't see anyone at 55 who can contribute more than just shooting, and of the shooters there are concerns about their ability to get open and get the shot off. I am hopeful that they can find some shooting in free agency.

Who do you want?

Karaban. Solid defensively and can shoot. Sign me up doesn’t hurt that he can pass and knows how to move off the ball.


I don't think he can defend at the next level, but we'll see.

Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft

Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2024 1:32 pm
by Scoots1994
whatisacenter wrote:Justin Edwards if he falls.

Baylor Scheierman moves without the ball, moves the ball and is a lefty who can shoot.

Keshad Johnson is a guy who does a little bit of everything. Strong and sees the game.

Johni Broome just outworks guys.

Alex Karaban plays some D and can shoot it.


It looks to me like Keshad is just a guy. He's strong but doesn't have any particularly special skill.

I like Scheierman enough

Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft

Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2024 2:10 pm
by NeoWarriors
With the 55th pick in the draft, the Golden State Warriors select Bronny James out of USC. This just in, LeBron James proclaims he will opt out of the final year of his contract. Set to sign at veterans minimum for Golden State. Heh.

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Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft

Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2024 2:22 pm
by whatisacenter
NeoWarriors wrote:With the 55th pick in the draft, the Golden State Warriors select Bronny James out of USC. This just in, LeBron James proclaims he will opt out of the final year of his contract. Set to sign at veterans minimum for Golden State. Heh.

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This would be such a sad ending to Curry’s time in GS. Everything would be about a washed up narcissist and Klutch would run the FO.

Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft

Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2024 2:50 pm
by Scoots1994
NeoWarriors wrote:With the 55th pick in the draft, the Golden State Warriors select Bronny James out of USC. This just in, LeBron James proclaims he will opt out of the final year of his contract. Set to sign at veterans minimum for Golden State. Heh.

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Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft

Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2024 3:21 pm
by whatisacenter
Scoots1994 wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:Justin Edwards if he falls.

Baylor Scheierman moves without the ball, moves the ball and is a lefty who can shoot.

Keshad Johnson is a guy who does a little bit of everything. Strong and sees the game.

Johni Broome just outworks guys.

Alex Karaban plays some D and can shoot it.


It looks to me like Keshad is just a guy. He's strong but doesn't have any particularly special skill.

I like Scheierman enough


Agree about Keshad, I was just looking for mature guys who might fit in the system at the end of the draft.

If they can find someone who can contribute like TJD has then it would be a win.

Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft

Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2024 4:54 pm
by Scoots1994
whatisacenter wrote:
Scoots1994 wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:Justin Edwards if he falls.

Baylor Scheierman moves without the ball, moves the ball and is a lefty who can shoot.

Keshad Johnson is a guy who does a little bit of everything. Strong and sees the game.

Johni Broome just outworks guys.

Alex Karaban plays some D and can shoot it.


It looks to me like Keshad is just a guy. He's strong but doesn't have any particularly special skill.

I like Scheierman enough


Agree about Keshad, I was just looking for mature guys who might fit in the system at the end of the draft.

If they can find someone who can contribute like TJD has then it would be a win.


Broome would be interesting as a TJD backup ... not the same but similar enough.

Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft

Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2024 5:08 pm
by Scoots1994
You want shooting? Robbie Avila can shoot, and his college offense is the closest anyone runs to the Warriors offense and he's the center of that offense, and he probably will be a UDFA :)

Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft

Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2024 5:16 pm
by Onus
Scoots1994 wrote:You want shooting? Robbie Avila can shoot, and his college offense is the closest anyone runs to the Warriors offense and he's the center of that offense, and he probably will be a UDFA :)

He's actually really interesting. I doubt he has the athleticism to hang in the league, but if he does he has an interesting skill set for sure. How he performs at the combine and portsmith if he gets invited would be crucial to see how he hangs athletically.

Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft

Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2024 5:18 pm
by Scoots1994
Jamir Watkins is interesting. His game is still growing, but defensive minded smart players are good at getting on the floor with Kerr.

Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft

Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2024 6:32 pm
by Scoots1994
Onus wrote:
Scoots1994 wrote:You want shooting? Robbie Avila can shoot, and his college offense is the closest anyone runs to the Warriors offense and he's the center of that offense, and he probably will be a UDFA :)

He's actually really interesting. I doubt he has the athleticism to hang in the league, but if he does he has an interesting skill set for sure. How he performs at the combine and portsmith if he gets invited would be crucial to see how he hangs athletically.


Yeah, I suspect he will really struggle to defend, even more than Joker does. But nobody expects stand still shooters to defend all that well, and Robbie CAN shoot the lights out, and NBA wing defenders likely won't bother his shot.

Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft

Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2024 7:33 pm
by Onus
Scoots1994 wrote:
Onus wrote:
Scoots1994 wrote:You want shooting? Robbie Avila can shoot, and his college offense is the closest anyone runs to the Warriors offense and he's the center of that offense, and he probably will be a UDFA :)

He's actually really interesting. I doubt he has the athleticism to hang in the league, but if he does he has an interesting skill set for sure. How he performs at the combine and portsmith if he gets invited would be crucial to see how he hangs athletically.


Yeah, I suspect he will really struggle to defend, even more than Joker does. But nobody expects stand still shooters to defend all that well, and Robbie CAN shoot the lights out, and NBA wing defenders likely won't bother his shot.

Joker has really turned around as a defender. Think he's been underrated as a defender.

I think Avila really helped his entire team's offense efficiency. Being able to shoot and pass and take advantage of post up mismatches is huge as a center.

Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft

Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2024 8:24 pm
by TB
Johni Broome compares pretty favorably to Trayce. Reminds me of a poor man's trayce mixed with a poor mans Millsap. Essentially not quite as vertically explosive or long as Trayce, but still really fluid and can extend his shot out further than trayce... but not as mobile as Millsap was.

Outside of a major trade, I'm assuming we are planning to pencil in Trayce as the starting center. And that would probably make Loon a candidate for salary matching or cost savings. I wouldn't mind having Broome on the roster as a backup center in waiting in case we moved on from Loon.

Re: It's TIME! 24 Draft

Posted: Tue Apr 9, 2024 8:55 pm
by Scoots1994
Onus wrote:
Scoots1994 wrote:
Onus wrote:He's actually really interesting. I doubt he has the athleticism to hang in the league, but if he does he has an interesting skill set for sure. How he performs at the combine and portsmith if he gets invited would be crucial to see how he hangs athletically.


Yeah, I suspect he will really struggle to defend, even more than Joker does. But nobody expects stand still shooters to defend all that well, and Robbie CAN shoot the lights out, and NBA wing defenders likely won't bother his shot.

Joker has really turned around as a defender. Think he's been underrated as a defender.

I think Avila really helped his entire team's offense efficiency. Being able to shoot and pass and take advantage of post up mismatches is huge as a center.


I will accept that Joker is better as a defender. He is not a GOOD defender as a center, but that's okay, he's got physical limitations ... he's good for the tools he has ... just like Curry is (and he is underrated as a defender too).

Avila was absolutely the centerpiece of his team's offense.