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Re: Wiggins Out for Personal Reasons The Sequel

Posted: Fri Mar 1, 2024 8:58 pm
by Old_Blue
Impuniti wrote:I don't know what issues he has with his family, I really do wish him the best when it comes to his personal problems. But he needs to get his bags packed up and sent to another city this summer. If you don't play, you have no value as a player. Especially one that gets 25 million a year and is pivotal to the success of the team.


First off, the Dubs are a classy organization that doesn't treat people the way you are suggesting. Second, any organization that does take such a route is going to suffer come free agency - since they will be viewed as player and player family unfriendly. Just put yourself in a player's shoes. You've got two job offers. But, one employer lets it be known that if your kid gets sick and you need time off from work, your office will be moved to the storage room. Watcha gonna do? :D


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Re: Wiggins Out for Personal Reasons The Sequel

Posted: Fri Mar 1, 2024 9:07 pm
by thunderdunk
So, does Wiggins have kids? Last year it was supposedly his father...

Re: Wiggins Out for Personal Reasons The Sequel

Posted: Fri Mar 1, 2024 9:11 pm
by Onus
thunderdunk wrote:So, does Wiggins have kids? Last year it was supposedly his father...

It's probably his father again

Re: Wiggins Out for Personal Reasons The Sequel

Posted: Fri Mar 1, 2024 9:28 pm
by Old_Blue
thunderdunk wrote:So, does Wiggins have kids? Last year it was supposedly his father...


Your level of suspicion makes me wonder whether you were one of those kids in grade school who was absent on 5 or 6 different occasions due to the death of a grandparent. :D

Re: Wiggins Out for Personal Reasons The Sequel

Posted: Fri Mar 1, 2024 9:54 pm
by wco81
Kerr hopes he returns this season.

Ridiculous if it happens again, miss the last third of the season again.

He needs to hire a caretaker and if he has adult siblings or uncles and aunts, pay them to take care of this.

Re: Wiggins Out for Personal Reasons The Sequel

Posted: Fri Mar 1, 2024 10:01 pm
by HiRez
wco81 wrote:Kerr hopes he returns this season.

That statement is highly concerning and implies they don't think it's going to be a short-term thing. Don't forget last time he came back from the extended absence he was god-awful for a long time. Do we really want to try integrating him in that kind of state approaching or even during the playin/playoffs? It would be very risky and force some tough decisions on Kerr. Probably the final nail in the coffin for his starting status for the near future, that job is Kuminga's and he's not giving it back. Now with Klay clearly better off the bench you'd think Moody should be starting for Wiggins permanently, right? When Wiggins comes back, he should have to earn minutes all over again.

Re: Wiggins Out for Personal Reasons The Sequel

Posted: Fri Mar 1, 2024 10:38 pm
by Old_Blue
Your average employee's only real motivation is not to be hassled. Now, it's possible that this whole having to physically report to work thing has simply become too much of a hassle for Wiggins. In which case, hypothetically (thinking way outside the box here), maybe Wiggins is an appropriate candidate for an alternative remote work assignment where he only has to report to work whenever the Dubs play in Canada. That and a stock option equity sharing program. Someone needs to get HR on this stat. :lol:


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Re: Wiggins Out for Personal Reasons The Sequel

Posted: Fri Mar 1, 2024 11:58 pm
by Asianiac_24
All the personal reasons are coming out after he got the contract. Guys like Wiggins and Simmons are thiefs

Re: Wiggins Out for Personal Reasons The Sequel

Posted: Sat Mar 2, 2024 12:20 am
by watch1958
Asianiac_24 wrote:All the personal reasons are coming out after he got the contract. Guys like Wiggins and Simmons are thiefs

Thanks for participating. Invaluable insight.

Re: Wiggins Out for Personal Reasons The Sequel

Posted: Sat Mar 2, 2024 12:20 am
by superunknown
wtf

Re: Wiggins Out for Personal Reasons The Sequel

Posted: Sat Mar 2, 2024 2:32 am
by Sleepy51
His absence appears to have virtually no discernible impact.

Re: Wiggins Out for Personal Reasons The Sequel

Posted: Sat Mar 2, 2024 3:09 am
by DonaldSanders
Sleepy51 wrote:His absence appears to have virtually no discernible impact.



Mainly because we were DNP'ing an excellent player who is now taking his minutes.

Small sample size but Moody with the game high +/- for the last two games.

Re: Wiggins Out for Personal Reasons The Sequel

Posted: Sat Mar 2, 2024 3:36 am
by killmongrel
Sleepy51 wrote:His absence appears to have virtually no discernible impact.


Now imagine the potential of the team with Wiggins.

Still waiting to see Steph/Wiggins/Moody/Kuminga/Draymond.

Re: Wiggins Out for Personal Reasons The Sequel

Posted: Sat Mar 2, 2024 4:18 am
by multo
Hope he plays next game as he is our best Tatum defender, but I doubt he does.

Re: Wiggins Out for Personal Reasons The Sequel

Posted: Sat Mar 2, 2024 3:56 pm
by Impuniti
CDM_Stats wrote:
Impuniti wrote:No player is able to take time off and just come back with the perfect rhythm. On top of that, they need him because it's a huge difference to making 6th vs playing two play-in games (presuming they even win). Add to it even more with Kerr's disturbing hardon for overplaying all these old timers and then wondering why they keep getting punked on the 4th quarter with regularity.

Playoffs are often won by small 1-2% extra for a certain player or team here and there, and the idea that Wiggins can come back whenever and just be that good where it doesn't matter is crazy arrogant to me. I really don't get this thinking.

I don't know what issues he has with his family, I really do wish him the best when it comes to his personal problems. But he needs to get his bags packed up and sent to another city this summer. If you don't play, you have no value as a player. Especially one that gets 25 million a year and is pivotal to the success of the team.


for what?

Does it suck he's left the team again? Absolutely.. but what if the beginning of the season Wiggins was a result of *not* taking the time off then? We know how good Wiggins can be when on this team, we also know how bereft the team is of value to add in any trades.. no cap space, no 1st this year, very little chance of improvement. And if we sell Wiggins low, we're probably not going to get anything good in return. Don't make a bad situation worse.. odds are still very against Wiggins being out as long as he was last season. And unlike last season, the correct person is being dropped in his place, a player that was inexplicably out of the rotation before this

With Podz hitting a bit of a wall in his shooting and Klay sinking fast, there's just as good a chance that Moody integrates himself into the rotation while reducing the minutes of struggling teammates just in time for the playoffs. And if Wiggins struggles upon returning, Moody can eat those minutes too. Its a lot lower risk than last year when Kuminga was thrown into the SF role, frequently with Draymond/Looney, and spacing suffered. Or when that POS 40 ate a bunch of the minutes

There's no odds on this at all. You nor anyone here has any clue whatsoever regarding when Wiggins is back. He could also go on another personal quest next season and tank another season. Yes it would suck to trade him because his value would be low, but I'll take someone that's going to play over someone that isn't. The best trait is availability.

Re: Wiggins Out for Personal Reasons The Sequel

Posted: Sat Mar 2, 2024 3:57 pm
by Impuniti
DonaldSanders wrote:
Sleepy51 wrote:His absence appears to have virtually no discernible impact.



Mainly because we were DNP'ing an excellent player who is now taking his minutes.

Small sample size but Moody with the game high +/- for the last two games.

Can't wait until geniuses on here start giving Kerr credit for it, how he took the right time to unleash him instead of fumbling on his ass again like Joku and being forced to play him due to suspensions/injuries.

Re: Wiggins Out for Personal Reasons The Sequel

Posted: Sat Mar 2, 2024 4:03 pm
by Impuniti
Old_Blue wrote:
Impuniti wrote:I don't know what issues he has with his family, I really do wish him the best when it comes to his personal problems. But he needs to get his bags packed up and sent to another city this summer. If you don't play, you have no value as a player. Especially one that gets 25 million a year and is pivotal to the success of the team.


First off, the Dubs are a classy organization that doesn't treat people the way you are suggesting. Second, any organization that does take such a route is going to suffer come free agency - since they will be viewed as player and player family unfriendly. Just put yourself in a player's shoes. You've got two job offers. But, one employer lets it be known that if your kid gets sick and you need time off from work, your office will be moved to the storage room. Watcha gonna do? :D


This is not treating people bad. Treating people with disrespect is what happened to Smart who was with one organization and did everything for the team only to be traded like he was nothing (after being promised days earlier the opposite).

Your second point is based on wild guessing, which I completely disagree on. I don't see people being shaken that an organization doesn't want a player in the team who ends up leaving and missing half a season, then does the same thing again. Organizations have done worse like the Celtics and still get quality players. You know what's far worse than Wiggins being sent who gives a **** where next summer? Having a young kid get TKO, caught on camera, then give complete impunity to the jackass that does who happens to make a documentary about him being a victim days later. Then trades that kid 1 season later. I guess you weren't worried about players not joining the Warriors org because of it, since I don't remember you mentioning that all that much.

Lets not act like the Wiggins situation is something we have seen in basketball, ever.

Re: Wiggins Out for Personal Reasons The Sequel

Posted: Sat Mar 2, 2024 6:32 pm
by Romulus
At work, we just had an employee get fired because threatening weather was coming and she wanted to take off early. She asked, the boss said no. She left anyway. She was fired the next day. Welcome to real life.

In what world can you just take a leave of absence whenever you feel like it for a family emergency -- and do it for two years in a row? You make millions of dollars and have an entire group of teammates counting on you. At the most critical time, you go awol and give no timeline to return. Also, did anyone notice he did it right AFTER the trading deadline?

If it's his father and he's sick? I feel bad for him but you can't just take off like this for as long as you want.

I'm fed up. Sorry.

Even though Moody has played well, this only results in more opportunities for Kerr to play more guards. Not having Wiggins until just before the season ends is unacceptable, sorry.

I absolutely would trade him in off season regardless. This is a bunch of crap.

Re: Wiggins Out for Personal Reasons The Sequel

Posted: Sat Mar 2, 2024 6:52 pm
by killmongrel
Impuniti wrote:
DonaldSanders wrote:
Sleepy51 wrote:His absence appears to have virtually no discernible impact.



Mainly because we were DNP'ing an excellent player who is now taking his minutes.

Small sample size but Moody with the game high +/- for the last two games.

Can't wait until geniuses on here start giving Kerr credit for it, how he took the right time to unleash him instead of fumbling on his ass again like Joku and being forced to play him due to suspensions/injuries.


:lol:

I felt like I was taking crazy pills when I was reading comments like that from some posters.

Re: Wiggins Out for Personal Reasons The Sequel

Posted: Sat Mar 2, 2024 7:22 pm
by Bayside
Everyone deals with the same stuff in life mostly. Your parents die. Some people like me, happens when your young, You can loose siblings too. etc. Divorces etc. BUt we all have to go on. It is an extreme luxury and privilege to have this kind leeway. I lived in several countries, and most outside of the states are way more giving in labor negotiation's and workers benefits etc. USA is pretty low on that. So kudos for the organization to care for employees. Its just hard to rationalize because we do not know what the core deal is.

I really hope his kid has not been going though something. If that was the case for me, I would have left work though for good.. It is my kid. Maybe something went away and came back.

When it is your kid, its a total different ballgame. Your not supposed to outlive your child. That situation is the worst.

Who knows.

If its the Mrs. Then whatever dude