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Re: Joe Lacob has no clue 

Post#21 » by DaHef » Sat Jan 20, 2024 2:35 am

ILOVEIT wrote:Not to sound harsh but....

Lacob buying the Warriors was the best thing to happen as a Warrior's fan in our lives. Period.

Bought the team...fired Mark Jackson for Steve Kerr.

Spent more money than God for a decade.

HIREEEEEEEEEEEEED Jerry West to consult.

4 championships....6 finals in the last decade. Yeah...he totally sucks.

To add on to this, didn't he push for or at least allow for the Bogut trade which helped turn this thing around. A true seven foot rim protector. His big mistake may have been allowing Kerr to double down on small ball after the last championship when the roster was growing older. Small ball is a young players game, takes a lot of energy to overcome being outsized. The vets look ragged at times. It's long over due to find another Bogut or two to make it easier on the vets. If Kerr objects, let him walk.
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Post#22 » by DevinVassell » Sat Jan 20, 2024 2:40 am

cpower wrote:Let's be honest the dude has no clue how to run a successful organization. The only thing he did right was to draft Curry but that was completely out of luck. Then Jerry West made sure we draft and kept Klay (rejected K Love) - a key part of our motion offense. Getting KD also has nothing to do with him. Then he put his family all over the dubs club, wanted Wiseman who turns out to be a complete bust. Giving that money to Jordan Poole is nuts. Now he wants to keep JK and just let the team die on its own. Based on his record the post Curry era would be very miserable to see.

Lightyear lol what a joke.


What a silly thing to say. Fair dinkum. How long have you been following the warriors?

Cohan was the worst cheap ass owner ever. Go read some history. You must be johhny come lately or have alzheimers.

Four championships later Lacob is arguably the second most important contributor to the Dubs success.
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Post#23 » by oaktownwarriors87 » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:13 am

The end of the Cohen era and the begining of the Lacob era were both great. Probably the only time the owners didn't let their hubris get in the way.
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Post#24 » by Jester_ » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:42 am

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ILOVEIT wrote:Not to sound harsh but....

Lacob buying the Warriors was the best thing to happen as a Warrior's fan in our lives. Period.

Bought the team...fired Mark Jackson for Steve Kerr.

Spent more money than God for a decade.

HIREEEEEEEEEEEEED Jerry West to consult.

4 championships....6 finals in the last decade. Yeah...he totally sucks.

so bulls were successful because of their owner, same for spurs, celtics..etc?

He spent money because he was making an easy business decision, spending money would make more money. If anywhere there could be much better decision after 2020...how many good young players we have drafted and developed? How many more Curry prime seasons can we waste?


Bingo.

But look at this thread -- there are still people drinking the Kool-Aid.

It's cool, over time the dumb takes fade. This is year 1, give it another 5 years and the slob gobblers snap back to reality.
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Post#25 » by Jester_ » Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:46 am

KevinMcreynolds wrote:He hired Rick Welts, Jerry West, Bob Myers, and Steve Kerr. Four amazingly great hires that turned around this franchise. He's a cornball and has said a few outlandish things but all in all he's been a great owner. Most importantly, he's willing to spend huge amounts of money to win.


Drafting Stephen Curry turned around this franchise
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Post#26 » by DonaldSanders » Sat Jan 20, 2024 4:56 am

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KevinMcreynolds wrote:He hired Rick Welts, Jerry West, Bob Myers, and Steve Kerr. Four amazingly great hires that turned around this franchise. He's a cornball and has said a few outlandish things but all in all he's been a great owner. Most importantly, he's willing to spend huge amounts of money to win.


Drafting Stephen Curry turned around this franchise


Curry is the most important part... But Cohan never would have spent what Lacob has for the '22 title. We didn't spend that much for the other 3, but there was a hefty bill for #4. Lacob also gets credit for keeping the org stable during the dynasty run.

Anyone acting like Cohan is anywhere near Lacob's level is telling on themselves. Like... did you watch the Cohan years? :-?
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Post#27 » by SpreeChokeJob » Sat Jan 20, 2024 10:17 am

He had the right idea which was to bring in the right people. Along the way, the success got to him and he believed that he was the reason for the success and he strayed from what was was working. Started to make decisions on his own and empower his sons which was a complete 180 from what got them there in the first place. That was what my post about upgrading the front office was about. Maybe he doesn’t care anymore and just wants to pay his sons with the golden goose or sell more shares of the team.

It’s been really apparent the front office has been woefully devoid of talent for some time. Maybe they thought they could save money by doing it themselves. There wasn’t much more growth they could extract during the peak Warriors, so they could save $$$ by not paying an executive to sit around and offer 30 minutes of advice. They locked up their arena and sold their PSL’s, so they are playing with house money at this point.

They really needed to have someone guiding the basketball decisions during the Wiseman draft year like Nellie or West. That was really the critical inflection turning point of the franchise. They need someone now honestly to guide them through the process of rebuilding. MDJ is just a scout. He doesn’t have the experience required of a seasoned executive to handle the task at hand.
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Post#28 » by Onus » Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:46 pm

My biggest issue with lacob is his obsession with a 2nd timeline. They’ve been planning for life without Steph since 2020. I know he’s waiting for Steph to retire and he thinks he’s going to win another title without Steph where he can say see it’s the organization and not Steph.
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Post#29 » by BG » Sat Jan 20, 2024 4:22 pm

That man brought us the best years of our fan-lives, and made the warriors one of the most valuable franchises in us sports. It was clear that this has to end sometime. And there's no franchise that wins it every year or is a contender every year, yet there are people on the internet claiming that he has no clue, i don't get it. People need to learn to appreciate some things in life when they happen to come around.
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Post#30 » by SpreeChokeJob » Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:23 pm

Onus wrote:My biggest issue with lacob is his obsession with a 2nd timeline. They’ve been planning for life without Steph since 2020. I know he’s waiting for Steph to retire and he thinks he’s going to win another title without Steph where he can say see it’s the organization and not Steph.

He’s not wrong for planning that. He didn’t execute the draft correctly. If they had gotten Halliburton, the naysayers would be saying something different. Which goes back to the point, can’t save money by thinking they could do the GM duties themselves. Could have provided a future and win championships at the same time.
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Post#31 » by GQ Hot Dog » Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:23 pm

SpreeChokeJob wrote:They need someone now honestly to guide them through the process of rebuilding. MDJ is just a scout. He doesn’t have the experience required of a seasoned executive to handle the task at hand.

MDJ has done nothing to indicate he's incapable of running this franchise top to bottom and I'm not going to doubt him until he does.

The Podz/TJD draft has been a success so far. First test passed.

Making a move before this trade deadline is his second test and we're all waiting with baited breath to see how he does.
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Post#32 » by SpreeChokeJob » Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:25 pm

GQ Hot Dog wrote:
SpreeChokeJob wrote:They need someone now honestly to guide them through the process of rebuilding. MDJ is just a scout. He doesn’t have the experience required of a seasoned executive to handle the task at hand.

MDJ has done nothing to indicate he's incapable of running this franchise top to bottom and I'm not going to doubt him until he does.

The Podz/TJD draft has been a success so far. First test passed.

Making a move before this trade deadline is his second test and we're all waiting with bated breath to see how he does.

It takes more than drafting to be a GM.
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Post#33 » by Onus » Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:44 pm

SpreeChokeJob wrote:
Onus wrote:My biggest issue with lacob is his obsession with a 2nd timeline. They’ve been planning for life without Steph since 2020. I know he’s waiting for Steph to retire and he thinks he’s going to win another title without Steph where he can say see it’s the organization and not Steph.

He’s not wrong for planning that. He didn’t execute the draft correctly. If they had gotten Halliburton, the naysayers would be saying something different. Which goes back to the point, can’t save money by thinking they could do the GM duties themselves. Could have provided a future and win championships at the same time.

That’s the problem. He was so focused on trying to find the next superstar he missed out on really solid players who could be carrying the team right now.
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Post#34 » by cpower » Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:45 pm

BG wrote:That man brought us the best years of our fan-lives, and made the warriors one of the most valuable franchises in us sports. It was clear that this has to end sometime. And there's no franchise that wins it every year or is a contender every year, yet there are people on the internet claiming that he has no clue, i don't get it. People need to learn to appreciate some things in life when they happen to come around.

That man already wasted 3 years of Curry's prime because he was indecisive on what he wanted to do with the 2 timelines.
I am sure Joe Lacob dont want to be called "the man who wasted 5 year prime of a top 10 player of all time"
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Post#35 » by xdrta+ » Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:08 pm

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BG wrote:That man brought us the best years of our fan-lives, and made the warriors one of the most valuable franchises in us sports. It was clear that this has to end sometime. And there's no franchise that wins it every year or is a contender every year, yet there are people on the internet claiming that he has no clue, i don't get it. People need to learn to appreciate some things in life when they happen to come around.

That man already wasted 3 years of Curry's prime because he was indecisive on what he wanted to do with the 2 timelines.
I am sure Joe Lacob dont want to be called "the man who wasted 5 year prime of a top 10 player of all time"


That's how you, and a lot of RealGMers, will remember him. The other 99.9% of Warrior fans, who never heard of RealGM, will remember him as the man who rescued the Warrior franchise from 40 years in NBA wilderness and made them the dominant force in the league for the better part of a decade. I wonder which group he cares more about.
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Post#36 » by Chris Porter's Hair » Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:42 pm

cpower wrote:
ILOVEIT wrote:Not to sound harsh but....

Lacob buying the Warriors was the best thing to happen as a Warrior's fan in our lives. Period.

Bought the team...fired Mark Jackson for Steve Kerr.

Spent more money than God for a decade.

HIREEEEEEEEEEEEED Jerry West to consult.

4 championships....6 finals in the last decade. Yeah...he totally sucks.

so bulls were successful because of their owner, same for spurs, celtics..etc?

He spent money because he was making an easy business decision, spending money would make more money. If anywhere there could be much better decision after 2020...how many good young players we have drafted and developed? How many more Curry prime seasons can we waste?

In theory that is true about every single sports owner. In practice, arguably no owner has ever spent money to make money in the way Lacob has.

Your premise is ridiculous.
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Post#37 » by Bayside » Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:02 pm

My take on the ownership is that it is not mutually exclusive.

They did come in and get the best minds to create the business. And they got results.
Then they thought they could replace those minds with friends and family after they established the business model. It has puttered out. After all the good will has been drained from the club. Milking it now for all its worth, last drop of what it was. Have been now for many years.

Feeding a bit of hope here and there. But basically they are not doing much. Keeping the core, marketing it. Milking it now as they try to come under the cap.

They can't buy the experience those people had. And replace it with Jr. This is how it goes...
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Post#38 » by BG » Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:02 pm

cpower wrote:
BG wrote:That man brought us the best years of our fan-lives, and made the warriors one of the most valuable franchises in us sports. It was clear that this has to end sometime. And there's no franchise that wins it every year or is a contender every year, yet there are people on the internet claiming that he has no clue, i don't get it. People need to learn to appreciate some things in life when they happen to come around.

That man already wasted 3 years of Curry's prime because he was indecisive on what he wanted to do with the 2 timelines.
I am sure Joe Lacob dont want to be called "the man who wasted 5 year prime of a top 10 player of all time"


We won in 22, so yeah what a wasted year of curry's prime :nod: i'm sure you would have blown everything up before the 22 season, because we didn't win it all in 21. We had one of the best runs in the history of the NBA, and yet people are not able to appreciate these 4 titles, because we didn't win 10 titles. Life must be really hard when you have these kind of expectations.
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Post#39 » by Crazy-Canuck » Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:14 pm

Winning is hard. Winning a title is even more difficult. Winning multiple titles in a relatively short window is near impossible in the modern NBA. Along with some luck of course.

Lacob hired the right people and doesn't meddle as much as he could if he wanted to.
Lacob supports the club financially and emotionally.

99% of the sport franchises, not just the nba, out there would love a guy like lacob backing them.
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Post#40 » by KevinMcreynolds » Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:26 pm

Jester_ wrote:
KevinMcreynolds wrote:He hired Rick Welts, Jerry West, Bob Myers, and Steve Kerr. Four amazingly great hires that turned around this franchise. He's a cornball and has said a few outlandish things but all in all he's been a great owner. Most importantly, he's willing to spend huge amounts of money to win.


Drafting Stephen Curry turned around this franchise


You can say “drafting/trading for X player turned around so and so franchise” for literally every championship franchise. You also need support from ownership to take it to the next level and being a Mets, Jets, Warriors fan I understand that better than most. They’ve all had some of the all-time worst ownership that are incapable of winning anything.
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