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Game 53, Warriors at Jazz 6PM PST, the usual suspects

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Re: Game 53, Warriors at Jazz 6PM PST, the usual suspects 

Post#161 » by hamncheese » Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:42 am

Being positive, the Warriors played 9 games in 14 days with 3 b2b's and no more than 1 day between games and went 7-2. And 7 games on the road.
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Re: Game 53, Warriors at Jazz 6PM PST, the usual suspects 

Post#162 » by cpower » Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:43 am

SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:
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SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:We were losing games like this in December.

we are the same team, will keep losing like this in March and April


No, I believe.
We will not blow 4th quarter leads in March.

sure but we just blew 2 leads yesterday and today. :lol:
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Re: Game 53, Warriors at Jazz 6PM PST, the usual suspects 

Post#163 » by vagelis » Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:45 am

Sleepy51 wrote:Wiggins was lowkey disastrous during that meltdown. Just sleepwalking through play after play.


Wiggins does not get the ball at all in 4th quarters.
I don't think it is his fault.

The ball goes to Curry and the other player watching, this is the system for 4th quatters
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Re: Game 53, Warriors at Jazz 6PM PST, the usual suspects 

Post#164 » by Crazy-Canuck » Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:48 am

Boxscore won't show it, but that 2 minute stretch by saric in the 4th was a momentum killer.
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Re: Game 53, Warriors at Jazz 6PM PST, the usual suspects 

Post#165 » by SinceGatlingWasARookie » Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:52 am

Quinones led the team in plus minus with a plus 10.
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Re: Game 53, Warriors at Jazz 6PM PST, the usual suspects 

Post#166 » by thunderdunk » Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:09 am

Another epic fourth quarter collapse. So lucky not to lose their 7th one of these.
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Re: Game 53, Warriors at Jazz 6PM PST, the usual suspects 

Post#167 » by oaktownwarriors87 » Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:30 am

Per 36 minute numbers in the 4th quarter with Curry and without CP3 or CoJo.

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         PTS   RBD   AST  FG%  TS%  NET (Per 100)
Curry   39.48  4.05 3.35 50.5 68.0
Kuminga 25.32  7.66 2.32 59.2 65.7 -7.6
TJD     23.14 15.42 2.57 66.7 75.0 +5.0
Moody   19.33  5.33 0.00 41.7 51.8 -12.4
Klay    11.93  4.50 1.80 33.3 48.2 -10.6
Wiggins  9.89  5.89 2.53 43.2 48.0 -7.4
Podz     8.58  5.24 6.68 40.5 46.2 -7.1
Green    7.44  6.00 9.36 48.0 53.4 +5.7
Looney   4.32  8.16 2.88 44.4 45.0 -33.8
Saric    2.77  6.46 7.39 00.0 30.0 -14.5
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Re: Game 53, Warriors at Jazz 6PM PST, the usual suspects 

Post#168 » by thunderdunk » Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:51 am

I assume CP3 comes back after the break. Wonder what that does to the team's play in general, and in the 4th quarter specifically. And yes, they need more TJD in Q4.
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Re: Game 53, Warriors at Jazz 6PM PST, the usual suspects 

Post#169 » by floppymoose » Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:56 am

Nice to go into the break as a winning team. A lot to like about this one. Throwback Klay!
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Re: Game 53, Warriors at Jazz 6PM PST, the usual suspects 

Post#170 » by CDM_Stats » Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:00 am

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Re: Game 53, Warriors at Jazz 6PM PST, the usual suspects 

Post#171 » by killmongrel » Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:06 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
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Other guys were rolling. We put up an 84 point half without him forcing anything. Why did we need more buckets specifically from him?

He actually played one of his better floor games right up until he threw that pass away trying to force it to Curry.


We almost pissed away a 19 point lead, and our second option only scored another 13/14 point game, but okay. :rock:


Jks offense isn't a problem. He's alot like Poole and klay in that he doesn't offer much else when he can't get buckets.

He was getting cooked on and off ball this game (not as bad as podz).
He's the biggest guy in the starting line up, but can't rebound.
If Wiggins is poa, then jk has to help on the boards. It's dray by himself in there. It's why jk has to be poa for this team. Then wiggins can help dray. Get better rebounder and help defender on the court.
I love pods, but there are some physical limitations there. He can't fight against the trees. And steph has the same issue.


When he's only scoring 13 points as the second option, it's not the only problem, but it is a problem. He can get better and more consistent going forward though.
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Re: Game 53, Warriors at Jazz 6PM PST, the usual suspects 

Post#172 » by DonaldSanders » Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:12 am

Thank god we pulled that out, that had all the signs of the other collapses!

- Really like Klay with the 2nd wave, but Kerr needs to realize Klay still shouldn't close. Use Klay's scoring to get a lead if he's on, then when the activity picks up late we should be closing with active young guys like Moody

- I'd like to see TJD get more burn late in games, I see a pattern of 2nd, 3rd, 4th chance points late in games and we need a tree in the midst of our midgets just to grab some rebounds

- I like the win but hard to feel great because it looked like all the other blow-ups, Sexton just missed at the end.
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Re: Game 53, Warriors at Jazz 6PM PST, the usual suspects 

Post#173 » by Crazy-Canuck » Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:16 am

killmongrel wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:
killmongrel wrote:
We almost pissed away a 19 point lead, and our second option only scored another 13/14 point game, but okay. :rock:


Jks offense isn't a problem. He's alot like Poole and klay in that he doesn't offer much else when he can't get buckets.

He was getting cooked on and off ball this game (not as bad as podz).
He's the biggest guy in the starting line up, but can't rebound.
If Wiggins is poa, then jk has to help on the boards. It's dray by himself in there. It's why jk has to be poa for this team. Then wiggins can help dray. Get better rebounder and help defender on the court.
I love pods, but there are some physical limitations there. He can't fight against the trees. And steph has the same issue.


When he's only scoring 13 points as the second option, it's not the only problem, but it is a problem. He can get better and more consistent going forward though.


We scored more than enough. Others stepped up and jk didn't force it. He was fine on the offensive end.
Everything else? Not so much.
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Re: Game 53, Warriors at Jazz 6PM PST, the usual suspects 

Post#174 » by oaktownwarriors87 » Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:18 am

thunderdunk wrote:I assume CP3 comes back after the break. Wonder what that does to the team's play in general, and in the 4th quarter specifically. And yes, they need more TJD in Q4.


Paul and Curry are +5.9 in the 4th/OT together in 118 minutes.

Klay still shoot 33% from the field
They're -14.3 with Saric
They're +34.0 with TJD
They're +16.3 with Kuminga
TJD averaged 18/13.5/1.5 per 36 while shooting 75%
Kuminga averaged 18.4/6.4/1.6 per 36 while shooting 69%
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Re: Game 53, Warriors at Jazz 6PM PST, the usual suspects 

Post#175 » by michaelm » Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:18 am

killmongrel wrote:
SinceGatlingWasARookie wrote:We were losing games like this in December.


We just did yesterday. :lol:

That is rather the problem. There are probably several 5 man player combinations good at gaining leads, but few if any with a forte of keeping a lead.
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Re: Game 53, Warriors at Jazz 6PM PST, the usual suspects 

Post#176 » by killmongrel » Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:23 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
killmongrel wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:
Jks offense isn't a problem. He's alot like Poole and klay in that he doesn't offer much else when he can't get buckets.

He was getting cooked on and off ball this game (not as bad as podz).
He's the biggest guy in the starting line up, but can't rebound.
If Wiggins is poa, then jk has to help on the boards. It's dray by himself in there. It's why jk has to be poa for this team. Then wiggins can help dray. Get better rebounder and help defender on the court.
I love pods, but there are some physical limitations there. He can't fight against the trees. And steph has the same issue.


When he's only scoring 13 points as the second option, it's not the only problem, but it is a problem. He can get better and more consistent going forward though.


We scored more than enough. Others stepped up and jk didn't force it. He was fine on the offensive end.
Everything else? Not so much.


Just saying. The expectations have been set. We'll see how he finishes out the season. Right now, he has to do more to meet them.
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Re: Game 53, Warriors at Jazz 6PM PST, the usual suspects 

Post#177 » by whatisacenter » Fri Feb 16, 2024 6:51 am

Glad they won. Glad they have some time off. Glad they have a stranglehold on 10th place, baby!
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Re: Game 53, Warriors at Jazz 6PM PST, the usual suspects 

Post#178 » by Sandy333 » Fri Feb 16, 2024 7:23 am

Today game showed the reason we lost close games, we have no clutch scorer or any scorer apart from Steph. Our shooting outside of steph is poor esp if Thompson is off. Podz , Moody and Kuminga need to forget the hype and really improve thier own shooting .
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Re: Game 53, Warriors at Jazz 6PM PST, the usual suspects 

Post#179 » by Onus » Fri Feb 16, 2024 7:28 am

Sandy333 wrote:Today game showed the reason we lost close games, we have no clutch scorer or any scorer apart from Steph. Our shooting outside of steph is poor esp if Thompson is off. Podz , Moody and Kuminga need to forget the hype and really improve thier own shooting .

I’m mean really we don’t have a true 2nd option. Most 2nd options are at the very least top 30 players. Dray is probably the closest but he cant score for ****.

Also our 3rd best player in co3 is out.
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Re: Game 53, Warriors at Jazz 6PM PST, the usual suspects 

Post#180 » by Onus » Fri Feb 16, 2024 7:30 am

whatisacenter wrote:Glad they won. Glad they have some time off. Glad they have a stranglehold on 10th place, baby!

Thank Danny for killing all the Jazz momentum by trading 3 rotation players.
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