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Re: Game 65: Warriors @ Mavs. 5:30pm PT 

Post#161 » by Crazy-Canuck » Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:37 am

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Are you serious?

Only thing Klay is thinking about is his next massive payday.


He won't get that, I think he knows it. He may not want to ride the bench in a really limited role.
Logically you’re right.

But with this group, I think he will.

My suspicion is that Kerr wanted the core back as a condition of him extending. MDJ certainly wouldn’t give an open ended promise to extend Klay, but I kinda think he’d agree to leave the 2/48 on the table. He likely regrets it more and more as games go by, but I think he’s stuck.


Are we even sure it's off the table? I think it's still there and klay was gambling he's get more. I agree that this front office will pay him.

It makes the limited wiggins and gp2 minutes make sense. They would need to be dumped to re-sign klay to get under the apron.
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Re: Game 65: Warriors @ Mavs. 5:30pm PT 

Post#162 » by billinder33 » Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:33 am

Absolutely no way Klay's getting 2/48.
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Re: Game 65: Warriors @ Mavs. 5:30pm PT 

Post#163 » by Onus » Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:19 pm

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Onus wrote:Seriously Klay can’t be on this team next year.

He's gone. So this is supposed to be a dude that can score big time? Has he shot 50% in any game this year? He's awful...and his shots are just flings from all kinds of rediculous positions - no base...drifting....

He shot 50+% in 19 games. Maybe first attempt was a bit questionable. The other 12 shots were very good shots. 3 misses were rebounded by himself or TJD.

That’s the problem. We run so much offense through Klay and he continues to miss good shots that it’s just bad offense. He’s not that guy anymore. Let him just be a spot up shooter. He just doesn’t have the legs to run around screens to get open and make shots.
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Re: Game 65: Warriors @ Mavs. 5:30pm PT 

Post#164 » by Onus » Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:21 pm

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watch1958 wrote:
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He won't get that, I think he knows it. He may not want to ride the bench in a really limited role.
Logically you’re right.

But with this group, I think he will.

My suspicion is that Kerr wanted the core back as a condition of him extending. MDJ certainly wouldn’t give an open ended promise to extend Klay, but I kinda think he’d agree to leave the 2/48 on the table. He likely regrets it more and more as games go by, but I think he’s stuck.


Are we even sure it's off the table? I think it's still there and klay was gambling he's get more. I agree that this front office will pay him.

It makes the limited wiggins and gp2 minutes make sense. They would need to be dumped to re-sign klay to get under the apron.

Tk said that 2/48 is off the table as of now.

Really the front office is hoping someone offers Klay a deal so they can say we can’t match that. You should take that.
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Re: Game 65: Warriors @ Mavs. 5:30pm PT 

Post#165 » by jozef » Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:50 pm

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ILOVEIT wrote:He's gone. So this is supposed to be a dude that can score big time? Has he shot 50% in any game this year? He's awful...and his shots are just flings from all kinds of rediculous positions - no base...drifting....

He shot 50+% in 19 games. Maybe first attempt was a bit questionable. The other 12 shots were very good shots. 3 misses were rebounded by himself or TJD.

That’s the problem. We run so much offense through Klay and he continues to miss good shots that it’s just bad offense. He’s not that guy anymore. Let him just be a spot up shooter. He just doesn’t have the legs to run around screens to get open and make shots.

That's interesting. Sometimes he kicks the right leg forward (and misses more) and sometimes he stays in perfect balance (and makes them at elite level). And they are the same shots at same speed and angle. So if he could not make them I would agree with you but he proves he can make them in the most perfect form only him and SC30 can do. And he still has the same gravity, nobody sags off him, they help on screens often. He drives less and I guess big part of blame is on Warriors small ball and unathletic centers cause he is afraid subconsciously of little help around the basket.
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Re: Game 65: Warriors @ Mavs. 5:30pm PT 

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Post#167 » by whatisacenter » Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:59 pm

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How can anyone even watch this video? I tried and couldn't take it. The voice...the complaining....the hyperbole.
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Re: Game 65: Warriors @ Mavs. 5:30pm PT 

Post#168 » by cpower » Thu Mar 14, 2024 4:07 pm

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How can anyone even watch this video? I tried and couldn't take it. The voice...the complaining....the hyperbole.

just tune down the volume and see the plays, the only thing i could not bear is how bad we are playing the D
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Re: Game 65: Warriors @ Mavs. 5:30pm PT 

Post#169 » by whatisacenter » Thu Mar 14, 2024 4:10 pm

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whatisacenter wrote:
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How can anyone even watch this video? I tried and couldn't take it. The voice...the complaining....the hyperbole.

just tune down the volume and see the plays, the only thing i could not bear is how bad we are playing the D


It’s not a great roster. They play about how I expect them to.
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Re: Game 65: Warriors @ Mavs. 5:30pm PT 

Post#170 » by Onus » Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:17 pm

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cpower wrote:


How can anyone even watch this video? I tried and couldn't take it. The voice...the complaining....the hyperbole.

just tune down the volume and see the plays, the only thing i could not bear is how bad we are playing the D

I've tried to watch this guy before but he's just wrong on a lot of what he's saying. It's a hard watch. Would not recommend
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Post#171 » by TB » Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:37 pm

Its a shame we had our bench finally figured out and instead of filling people into the starting spots, we brought cp3 and Klay back into the roles they weren't good at.

Even in this game could have gone:

Podz / CP3
Wiggins / GP2
Moody / Klay
Kuminga / Saric
Trayce / Loon

Instead, too much 4/5 combo of JK and Saric and 1/2 combo of CP3 and Podz. There is just no reason for those decisions.
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Re: Game 65: Warriors @ Mavs. 5:30pm PT 

Post#172 » by whatisacenter » Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:43 pm

TB wrote:Its a shame we had our bench finally figured out and instead of filling people into the starting spots, we brought cp3 and Klay back into the roles they weren't good at.

Even in this game could have gone:

Podz / CP3
Wiggins / GP2
Moody / Klay
Kuminga / Saric
Trayce / Loon

Instead, too much 4/5 combo of JK and Saric and 1/2 combo of CP3 and Podz. There is just no reason for those decisions.


I agree. In the past Kerr has kept bench players in their roles instead of inserting them into the starting lineup to keep the rotations set. I wish he would go with your lineup if Curry and Draymond miss the game against LA.
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Re: Game 65: Warriors @ Mavs. 5:30pm PT 

Post#173 » by floppymoose » Thu Mar 14, 2024 6:00 pm

Onus wrote:I've tried to watch this guy before but he's just wrong on a lot of what he's saying. It's a hard watch. Would not recommend


I haven't even tried. It's obvious just from the thumbnails that he is trying to capitalize on the sea of fans who think their NBA team would be great if only they were coaching.
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Re: Game 65: Warriors @ Mavs. 5:30pm PT 

Post#174 » by Onus » Thu Mar 14, 2024 6:08 pm

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Onus wrote:I've tried to watch this guy before but he's just wrong on a lot of what he's saying. It's a hard watch. Would not recommend


I haven't even tried. It's obvious just from the thumbnails that he is trying to capitalize on the sea of fans who think their NBA would be great if only they were coaching.

He's built a whole channel just ranting about coaches. It probably does fill a niche of fans who just want to hear about how bad their coach is. I'm down for a Kerr diatribe, but you at least have to be accurate for me to follow along.
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Re: Game 65: Warriors @ Mavs. 5:30pm PT 

Post#175 » by Onus » Thu Mar 14, 2024 6:10 pm

TB wrote:Its a shame we had our bench finally figured out and instead of filling people into the starting spots, we brought cp3 and Klay back into the roles they weren't good at.

Even in this game could have gone:

Podz / CP3
Wiggins / GP2
Moody / Klay
Kuminga / Saric
Trayce / Loon

Instead, too much 4/5 combo of JK and Saric and 1/2 combo of CP3 and Podz. There is just no reason for those decisions.

It's just so hard to sit your HOF players on the bench when Podz is struggling, Moody is struggling. I'd rather have everyone struggle but at least the hof won't be mad at me for keeping them on the bench. I don't actually want to coach. /s
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Re: Game 65: Warriors @ Mavs. 5:30pm PT 

Post#176 » by CDM_Stats » Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:03 pm

Onus wrote:
floppymoose wrote:
Onus wrote:I've tried to watch this guy before but he's just wrong on a lot of what he's saying. It's a hard watch. Would not recommend


I haven't even tried. It's obvious just from the thumbnails that he is trying to capitalize on the sea of fans who think their NBA would be great if only they were coaching.

He's built a whole channel just ranting about coaches. It probably does fill a niche of fans who just want to hear about how bad their coach is. I'm down for a Kerr diatribe, but you at least have to be accurate for me to follow along.


No such thing as an expert on 30 NBA teams.. hardly any for just one tbh. It’s a weird dynamic bc the best analysis accounts aren’t very popular because they don’t pander to people who can’t tell their ass from a hole in the ground, while the popular ones just say what these sports radio callers want to hear

Plenty of those in the Warriors universe too.. imagine if they instead used that effort to understand sets and assignments. Joe Viray probably the best now.. coach spins was, but he got hired. Just please no alchemy or Jim Park (I think?)
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Re: Game 65: Warriors @ Mavs. 5:30pm PT 

Post#177 » by Onus » Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:28 pm

CDM_Stats wrote:
Onus wrote:
floppymoose wrote:
I haven't even tried. It's obvious just from the thumbnails that he is trying to capitalize on the sea of fans who think their NBA would be great if only they were coaching.

He's built a whole channel just ranting about coaches. It probably does fill a niche of fans who just want to hear about how bad their coach is. I'm down for a Kerr diatribe, but you at least have to be accurate for me to follow along.


No such thing as an expert on 30 NBA teams.. hardly any for just one tbh. It’s a weird dynamic bc the best analysis accounts aren’t very popular because they don’t pander to people who can’t tell their ass from a hole in the ground, while the popular ones just say what these sports radio callers want to hear

Plenty of those in the Warriors universe too.. imagine if they instead used that effort to understand sets and assignments. Joe Viray probably the best now.. coach spins was, but he got hired. Just please no alchemy or Jim Park (I think?)

It's time to just bully him into stopping playing cp and klay for 30 mpg. But we have to wait until Steph gets back for that to happen.
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Re: Game 65: Warriors @ Mavs. 5:30pm PT 

Post#178 » by EvanZ » Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:39 pm

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This guy sounds uncannily like Nick Wrong.
I was right about 3 point shooting. I expect to be right about Tacko Fall. Some coach will figure out how to use Tacko Fall. This movement towards undersized centers will sweep ng back. Back to the basket scorers will return to the NBA.
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Re: Game 65: Warriors @ Mavs. 5:30pm PT 

Post#179 » by TB » Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:45 pm

Onus wrote:
TB wrote:Its a shame we had our bench finally figured out and instead of filling people into the starting spots, we brought cp3 and Klay back into the roles they weren't good at.

Even in this game could have gone:

Podz / CP3
Wiggins / GP2
Moody / Klay
Kuminga / Saric
Trayce / Loon

Instead, too much 4/5 combo of JK and Saric and 1/2 combo of CP3 and Podz. There is just no reason for those decisions.

It's just so hard to sit your HOF players on the bench when Podz is struggling, Moody is struggling. I'd rather have everyone struggle but at least the hof won't be mad at me for keeping them on the bench. I don't actually want to coach. /s


And to me I think this helps boost everyones confidence. CP3/Klay have been good on bench... saric okay at PF running PnR with Paul... putting them back in starting lineup and sucking is just going to go back to the situation we were in with them playing poorly (Klay at least). And for Moody/Podz, sure they have struggled off and on, but actually getting consistent minutes in lineups that help them should be what gets them playing to their fullest potential.

I know you and others have said it a million times, but its ironic how catering to Klay is actually leading to his game and mental struggles. Put him in a bench spot where he isn't allowed the chance to have extended minutes struggling and its actually a win for him. I'm sure he was feeling pretty good after that run of solid bench games as a microwave scorer. Now we are just back to them getting criticized.
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Re: Game 65: Warriors @ Mavs. 5:30pm PT 

Post#180 » by Nvnervous45 » Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:10 pm

I think the strength in numbers approach is enough to get us in the play-in and maybe one round further. I think the problem with this team the way it's constructed is that we don't have that #2 scoring option behind curry.
Kuminga might be that guy in a couple of years, but other than that the biggest let-down for curry and this organization in pursuit of a 5th ring is not having a scottie pippen to our michael jordan.
At least the lakers have AD for lebron and Phoenix has booker for KD. Even Sac-town has sabonis for fox. But until kuminga takes that role we are destined to be 1 and dones.

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