Bears off-season moves

heir_jordan22 · Post #41 » by **heir_jordan22** » Thu Jan 17, 2019 8:28 pm

If we don't sign a starting RT then I'd like Tytus Howard or Kaleb McGary in round 3. If we do sign one then I'd like Calvin Throckmorton or Prince Tega Wanogho in round 7. William Sweet wouldnt be bad either at the end of the draft.

Axxo · Post #42 » by **Axxo** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:58 pm

I know Nagy expressed support for Tabor, but I still feel he is the wrong guy for the job
https://footballmaven.io/talkoffame/nfl/rick-gosselin-s-2018-nfl-special-teams-rankings-MbGJNF3fzUq4AiEDITayKQ/

Relying on Cohen to carry ST isn't going to help the Bears reach their full potential

heir_jordan22 · Post #43 » by **heir_jordan22** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:05 pm

Axxo wrote:I know Nagy expressed support for Tabor, but I still feel he is the wrong guy for the job
https://footballmaven.io/talkoffame/nfl/rick-gosselin-s-2018-nfl-special-teams-rankings-MbGJNF3fzUq4AiEDITayKQ/

Relying on Cohen to carry ST isn't going to help the Bears reach their full potential

The Bears Special teams was bad this year. Without a doubt. I think I remember reading somewhere before the season started that he was changing the fundamentals for Parkey and O'Donnell. Tabor and Parkey have to stay another year to see how the experiment will work out. And to let their contract play out

heir_jordan22 · Post #44 » by **heir_jordan22** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 7:20 pm

Harry Heistand may play a key role in this off-season. Two pro bowl alternates and a rookie LG who played just as well. Massie had a career year and it just happened to be the year Heistand came in. Witzman came in half way through the season and played at an average level.

I think Massie will be replaced with a young guy with upside. Or possibly a guy like Donald Penn who wants to come in and win a ring.

I also think if Long doesn't agree to restructure then he'll be gone. We paid Massie and Long around $14m combined this year. One was the weak link even with a career year. And the other was on IR for the 3rd straight year. Both will be 30+ at the start of the season. We can go another direction with how good this coach is.

Axxo · Post #45 » by **Axxo** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:42 pm

heir_jordan22 wrote:
Axxo wrote:I know Nagy expressed support for Tabor, but I still feel he is the wrong guy for the job
https://footballmaven.io/talkoffame/nfl/rick-gosselin-s-2018-nfl-special-teams-rankings-MbGJNF3fzUq4AiEDITayKQ/

Relying on Cohen to carry ST isn't going to help the Bears reach their full potential

The Bears Special teams was bad this year. Without a doubt. I think I remember reading somewhere before the season started that he was changing the fundamentals for Parkey and O'Donnell. Tabor and Parkey have to stay another year to see how the experiment will work out. And to let their contract play out

Does the ST coach report to the DC? Would it be Pagano's call?

heir_jordan22 · Post #46 » by **heir_jordan22** » Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:43 pm

Axxo wrote:
heir_jordan22 wrote:
Axxo wrote:I know Nagy expressed support for Tabor, but I still feel he is the wrong guy for the job
https://footballmaven.io/talkoffame/nfl/rick-gosselin-s-2018-nfl-special-teams-rankings-MbGJNF3fzUq4AiEDITayKQ/

Relying on Cohen to carry ST isn't going to help the Bears reach their full potential

The Bears Special teams was bad this year. Without a doubt. I think I remember reading somewhere before the season started that he was changing the fundamentals for Parkey and O'Donnell. Tabor and Parkey have to stay another year to see how the experiment will work out. And to let their contract play out

Does the ST coach report to the DC? Would it be Pagano's call?

No.

Axxo · Post #47 » by **Axxo** » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:50 pm

New kicker signed
https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/bears-to-sign-k-redford-jones/

Axxo · Post #48 » by **Axxo** » Sat Jan 26, 2019 5:40 pm

Bears prioritize resigning Massie. Just when you think you know what the logical choices would be...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001013524/article/ot-bobby-massie-bears-agree-on-fouryear-deal%3fnetworkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%253Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%253Dstory&env=&pageKeyValues=prtnr%253Daround-the-league%253Bteam%253Dchi%253Bconf%253Dnfc%253Bdvsn%253Dncn%253Bplyr%253Dbobby_massie%253Bplyr%253Dandrew_parkey&p.ct=Around%2bthe%2bNFL&p.adsm=false&p.tcm=%2523fff&p.bgc1m=%25230964bf&p.bgc2m=%2523053a74&sr=amp

I'm guessing Amos will be gone

MeloRoseNoah · Post #49 » by **MeloRoseNoah** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 6:00 am

Axxo wrote:Bears prioritize resigning Massie. Just when you think you know what the logical choices would be...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001013524/article/ot-bobby-massie-bears-agree-on-fouryear-deal%3fnetworkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%253Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%253Dstory&env=&pageKeyValues=prtnr%253Daround-the-league%253Bteam%253Dchi%253Bconf%253Dnfc%253Bdvsn%253Dncn%253Bplyr%253Dbobby_massie%253Bplyr%253Dandrew_parkey&p.ct=Around%2bthe%2bNFL&p.adsm=false&p.tcm=%2523fff&p.bgc1m=%25230964bf&p.bgc2m=%2523053a74&sr=amp

I'm guessing Amos will be gone

What's the compensatory pick for Amos if he signs with a different team?

I personally would like to keep Amos for somewhere bet 8-9 mil/yr. He's reliable, young player who keeps improving season by season.

Currently, I think that Kyle Long is the weak link of our O-line. That guy keeps getting beat on a weekly basis even when he's healthy. I would look to draft either a C or guard in the third round. Let that guy sit behinds Kyle Long for the first 5-7 weeks. We know that Long will get hurt eventually.

4th and 5h rounds should be used to pick bpa on either offense or defense. It doesn't matter the position. Those guys need to be contributors in 1 season.

I also hope that we packaged both 7th rounders to move up and draft a reliable kicker that will be with us for the next decade.

Axxo · Post #50 » by **Axxo** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:22 pm

MeloRoseNoah wrote:
Axxo wrote:Bears prioritize resigning Massie. Just when you think you know what the logical choices would be...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001013524/article/ot-bobby-massie-bears-agree-on-fouryear-deal%3fnetworkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%253Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%253Dstory&env=&pageKeyValues=prtnr%253Daround-the-league%253Bteam%253Dchi%253Bconf%253Dnfc%253Bdvsn%253Dncn%253Bplyr%253Dbobby_massie%253Bplyr%253Dandrew_parkey&p.ct=Around%2bthe%2bNFL&p.adsm=false&p.tcm=%2523fff&p.bgc1m=%25230964bf&p.bgc2m=%2523053a74&sr=amp

I'm guessing Amos will be gone

What's the compensatory pick for Amos if he signs with a different team?

I personally would like to keep Amos for somewhere bet 8-9 mil/yr. He's reliable, young player who keeps improving season by season.

Currently, I think that Kyle Long is the weak link of our O-line. That guy keeps getting beat on a weekly basis even when he's healthy. I would look to draft either a C or guard in the third round. Let that guy sit behinds Kyle Long for the first 5-7 weeks. We know that Long will get hurt eventually.

4th and 5h rounds should be used to pick bpa on either offense or defense. It doesn't matter the position. Those guys need to be contributors in 1 season.

I also hope that we packaged both 7th rounders to move up and draft a reliable kicker that will be with us for the next decade.

Doesn't look like the bears are projected to have any for 2019
https://amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000933360/article/projecting-compensatory-picks-for-2019-nfl-draft?networkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%3Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%3Dstory&env&pageKeyValues=prtnr%3Dcollege-football%3Bteam%3Dphi%3Bteam%3Dcin%3Bteam%3Dcar%3Bteam%3Dind%3Bteam%3Datl%3Bteam%3Darz%3Bteam%3Dbal%3Bteam%3Dwas%3Bteam%3Ddal%3Bteam%3Dmin%3Bteam%3Ddet%3Bconf%3Dnfc%3Bconf%3Dafc%3Bdvsn%3Dnce%3Bdvsn%3Dacn%3Bdvsn%3Dncs%3Bdvsn%3Dacs%3Bdvsn%3Dncw%3Bdvsn%3Dncn%3Bplyr%3Djaron_brown%3Bplyr%3Dsheldon_richardson%3Bplyr%3Djeremy_hill&p.ct=CFB%2024%2F7&p.adsm=false&p.tcm=%23ffffff&p.bgc1m=%23000000&sr=amp

Post #51 » by **City of Trees** » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:16 am

Axxo wrote:Bears prioritize resigning Massie. Just when you think you know what the logical choices would be...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001013524/article/ot-bobby-massie-bears-agree-on-fouryear-deal%3fnetworkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%253Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%253Dstory&env=&pageKeyValues=prtnr%253Daround-the-league%253Bteam%253Dchi%253Bconf%253Dnfc%253Bdvsn%253Dncn%253Bplyr%253Dbobby_massie%253Bplyr%253Dandrew_parkey&p.ct=Around%2bthe%2bNFL&p.adsm=false&p.tcm=%2523fff&p.bgc1m=%25230964bf&p.bgc2m=%2523053a74&sr=amp

I'm guessing Amos will be gone

Looks like Amos might have the Bears offer already

Read on Twitter

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Axxo · Post #52 » by **Axxo** » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:17 pm

City of Trees wrote:
Axxo wrote:Bears prioritize resigning Massie. Just when you think you know what the logical choices would be...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001013524/article/ot-bobby-massie-bears-agree-on-fouryear-deal%3fnetworkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%253Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%253Dstory&env=&pageKeyValues=prtnr%253Daround-the-league%253Bteam%253Dchi%253Bconf%253Dnfc%253Bdvsn%253Dncn%253Bplyr%253Dbobby_massie%253Bplyr%253Dandrew_parkey&p.ct=Around%2bthe%2bNFL&p.adsm=false&p.tcm=%2523fff&p.bgc1m=%25230964bf&p.bgc2m=%2523053a74&sr=amp

I'm guessing Amos will be gone
Looks like Amos might have the Bears offer already

Read on Twitter

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So then we let Bryce walk? Slot CB is harder to replace

Post #53 » by **City of Trees** » Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:25 pm

Axxo wrote:
City of Trees wrote:
Axxo wrote:Bears prioritize resigning Massie. Just when you think you know what the logical choices would be...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001013524/article/ot-bobby-massie-bears-agree-on-fouryear-deal%3fnetworkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url%253Dstory&zoneKeys=s1%253Dstory&env=&pageKeyValues=prtnr%253Daround-the-league%253Bteam%253Dchi%253Bconf%253Dnfc%253Bdvsn%253Dncn%253Bplyr%253Dbobby_massie%253Bplyr%253Dandrew_parkey&p.ct=Around%2bthe%2bNFL&p.adsm=false&p.tcm=%2523fff&p.bgc1m=%25230964bf&p.bgc2m=%2523053a74&sr=amp

I'm guessing Amos will be gone
Looks like Amos might have the Bears offer already

Read on Twitter

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So then we let Bryce walk? Slot CB is harder to replace

Assuming there isnt much money for free agents your decision may come down to Bush vs. McMannis. Which 2018-19 back up would you rather start next season?

Id rather see McMannis start at Slot than see Bush at Safety.

However I like Callahan better than Amos.

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Axxo · Post #54 » by **Axxo** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:30 am

City of Trees wrote:
Axxo wrote:
City of Trees wrote:Looks like Amos might have the Bears offer already

Read on Twitter

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So then we let Bryce walk? Slot CB is harder to replace
Assuming there isnt much money for free agents your decision may come down to Bush vs. McMannis. Which 2018-19 back up would you rather start next season?

Id rather see McMannis start at Slot than see Bush at Safety.

However I like Callahan better than Amos.

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I think it surprised most ppl

Watch on YouTube

heir_jordan22 · Post #55 » by **heir_jordan22** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:31 am

Keep in mind that video was taken Jan 25, if not earlier. So if it was an offer it clearly wasn't a done deal.

Axxo · Post #56 » by **Axxo** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 3:54 pm

heir_jordan22 wrote:Keep in mind that video was taken Jan 25, if not earlier. So if it was an offer it clearly wasn't a done deal.

You are correct. Amos has not been signed. Wants more than market value
https://beargoggleson.com/2019/01/30/adrian-amos-contract-demands-high/

Post #57 » by **City of Trees** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 7:37 pm

If anyone wants the news first lol

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Post #58 » by **chitownsports4ever** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 4:56 pm

Its much harder to replace the slot DB than a strong safety right now and for the Bears our upcoming schedule makes the slot incredibly important. If Amos doesn't want to take the Bears offer there are several good veterans out there who we could make a similar offer to but having McManis is a huge step down from Callahan in coverage .

Axxo · Post #59 » by **Axxo** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 9:48 pm

chitownsports4ever wrote:Its much harder to replace the slot DB than a strong safety right now and for the Bears our upcoming schedule makes the slot incredibly important. If Amos doesn't want to take the Bears offer there are several good veterans out there who we could make a similar offer to but having McManis is a huge step down from Callahan in coverage .

This^

Apparently its not out of the realm of possibility to get a Lamarcus Joyner for abit less than what Amos has been asking for. The market for safeties has not been good. Look at last summer for example and how long it took UFA safeties to land somewhere.

Bulls Fan 23 · Post #60 » by **Bulls Fan 23** » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:10 am

I think the Bears should release Chase Daniels, we could user the $ and I would rather have Tyler Bray as a back up.