Bears Lead Up

PintSizedBox10 · Post #41 » by **PintSizedBox10** » Thu Dec 1, 2022 2:05 pm

Did Dr. Rogan perform Rodgers scans that came out 'looking good'? Kidding, Kidding...

All aboard the Love Train!

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coolhandluke121 · Post #42 » by **coolhandluke121** » Thu Dec 1, 2022 3:45 pm

I get the tanking talk but it's arguably just as important to play well and feel better about certain guys on the team. Rodgers in particular needs at least a couple great games in order for us to dream of anything remotely resembling what they could have gotten from Denver last summer. I'm not necessarily hoping for that, just saying there's a potential silver lining even if it doesn't play out the way we're hoping. Draft position matters, but it's still not the NBA in that regard.

Even if Love plays, would you rather the Packers still suck and get a high pick, or would you rather see Love, Doubs, and Watson light it up? Would you rather the defense continue to suck, or would you have as much hope for the future if they started playing closer to the potential many thought they had as you would have had with a top-5 pick?

Treebeard · Post #43 » by **Treebeard** » Thu Dec 1, 2022 4:21 pm

I know this season is swirling in the toilet, soon to be flushed down the drain. The idea of having a slew of picks with high draft position in every round will help the team rebuild, so the logical side of me accepts a loss as beneficial in the long run. The emotional fan side of me wants to beat the Bears and the Vikes in the worst way....

I want to see the young guys excel, period. Hope for the future, and all that... That's one of the few things that will give me pleasure regardless of the final score.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #44 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Thu Dec 1, 2022 5:32 pm

I don't think its any forgone conclusion that Rodgers is gone after this season. In fact I'd put odds at better than 50% he's here.

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JayMKE · Post #45 » by **JayMKE** » Thu Dec 1, 2022 6:45 pm

Let Rodgers play against the Bears, shut him down for next 2, if he's healthy and Love doesn't win the job then let him finish up against Vikings and Lions for last hurrahs at Lambeau.

RubberSoul · Post #46 » by **RubberSoul** » Thu Dec 1, 2022 9:18 pm

coolhandluke121 wrote:I get the tanking talk but it's arguably just as important to play well and feel better about certain guys on the team. Rodgers in particular needs at least a couple great games in order for us to dream of anything remotely resembling what they could have gotten from Denver last summer. I'm not necessarily hoping for that, just saying there's a potential silver lining even if it doesn't play out the way we're hoping. Draft position matters, but it's still not the NBA in that regard.

Even if Love plays, would you rather the Packers still suck and get a high pick, or would you rather see Love, Doubs, and Watson light it up? Would you rather the defense continue to suck, or would you have as much hope for the future if they started playing closer to the potential many thought they had as you would have had with a top-5 pick?

If we win because Love Watson and Doubs are playing well that’s more than worth it to drop from 5 to 15 in draft. Love looking good is more important than anything else this season. Not predicting he will look good but hypothetically Packers winning because of Love is the best potential outcome of the season.

Worst outcome is Rodgers hobbling out there and winning a few games against bad teams 23-20 or something where there’s really nothing to get excited about.

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WeekapaugGroove · Post #47 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Fri Dec 2, 2022 4:05 pm

RubberSoul wrote:
coolhandluke121 wrote:I get the tanking talk but it's arguably just as important to play well and feel better about certain guys on the team. Rodgers in particular needs at least a couple great games in order for us to dream of anything remotely resembling what they could have gotten from Denver last summer. I'm not necessarily hoping for that, just saying there's a potential silver lining even if it doesn't play out the way we're hoping. Draft position matters, but it's still not the NBA in that regard.

Even if Love plays, would you rather the Packers still suck and get a high pick, or would you rather see Love, Doubs, and Watson light it up? Would you rather the defense continue to suck, or would you have as much hope for the future if they started playing closer to the potential many thought they had as you would have had with a top-5 pick?

If we win because Love Watson and Doubs are playing well that’s more than worth it to drop from 5 to 15 in draft. Love looking good is more important than anything else this season. Not predicting he will look good but hypothetically Packers winning because of Love is the best potential outcome of the season.

Worst outcome is Rodgers hobbling out there and winning a few games against bad teams 23-20 or something where there’s really nothing to get excited about.

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Oh I'm already mentally preparing myself for Rodgers to beat the Bears and Rams and we'll start getting run the table talk then the Dolphins will drop 50 on them as a Christmas present.

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Giannisland34 · Post #48 » by **Giannisland34** » Fri Dec 2, 2022 5:07 pm

RubberSoul wrote:
coolhandluke121 wrote:I get the tanking talk but it's arguably just as important to play well and feel better about certain guys on the team. Rodgers in particular needs at least a couple great games in order for us to dream of anything remotely resembling what they could have gotten from Denver last summer. I'm not necessarily hoping for that, just saying there's a potential silver lining even if it doesn't play out the way we're hoping. Draft position matters, but it's still not the NBA in that regard.

Even if Love plays, would you rather the Packers still suck and get a high pick, or would you rather see Love, Doubs, and Watson light it up? Would you rather the defense continue to suck, or would you have as much hope for the future if they started playing closer to the potential many thought they had as you would have had with a top-5 pick?

If we win because Love Watson and Doubs are playing well that’s more than worth it to drop from 5 to 15 in draft. Love looking good is more important than anything else this season. Not predicting he will look good but hypothetically Packers winning because of Love is the best potential outcome of the season.

Worst outcome is Rodgers hobbling out there and winning a few games against bad teams 23-20 or something where there’s really nothing to get excited about.

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Worst outcome is losing to the Bears, Lions twice, & Vikings twice. No matter the records. The Pack has ruled this division for a number of years don’t let it go. Especially easily or wanting to. That to me is crazy talk and wanting to go back Forrest Gregg and 4-12 seasons. Not me, not ever again hopefully!

WeekapaugGroove · Post #49 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Fri Dec 2, 2022 6:49 pm

I hope Barry's family didn't read this, it's rough. (And fair)

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LUKE23 · Post #50 » by **LUKE23** » Fri Dec 2, 2022 7:51 pm

And the worst part about it? Literally EVERYONE hated the hire the second it was announced. He didn't have any endearing qualities or innovative schemes, and also had only led terrible defenses. Packers **** that one up royally.

PintSizedBox10 · Post #51 » by **PintSizedBox10** » Fri Dec 2, 2022 7:51 pm

Barry didn't miss 22 tackles against Philly.

LUKE23 · Post #52 » by **LUKE23** » Fri Dec 2, 2022 7:52 pm

PintSizedBox10 wrote:Barry didn't miss 22 tackles against Philly.

The D has been **** all season. Granted, I think the players have given up somewhat, which I can't endorse, but they also have not been put in position to succeed all season long. Barry is an awful DC.

stillgotgame · Post #53 » by **stillgotgame** » Fri Dec 2, 2022 8:00 pm

PintSizedBox10 wrote:Barry didn't miss 22 tackles against Philly.

Barry put people in positions to fail.
At least 1/4 of the missed tackles were Quay getting juked by Hurts. Barry was the dumb ass who put Quay in the spy position.
Has he not seen Quay all year? Reacting is what Quay's worst at, being aggressive and going upfield is where he has excelled.

Treebeard · Post #54 » by **Treebeard** » Fri Dec 2, 2022 8:02 pm

Based on what we've seen so far of the coaching staff, who can stay, who should go away?

PintSizedBox10 · Post #55 » by **PintSizedBox10** » Fri Dec 2, 2022 8:06 pm

stillgotgame wrote:
PintSizedBox10 wrote:Barry didn't miss 22 tackles against Philly.

Barry put people in positions to fail.
At least 1/4 of the missed tackles were Quay getting juked by Hurts. Barry was the dumb ass who put Quay in the spy position.
Has he not seen Quay all year? Reacting is what Quay's worst at, being aggressive and going upfield is where he has excelled.

Sounds more like a Quay issue if he's constantly whiffing tackles.

stillgotgame · Post #56 » by **stillgotgame** » Fri Dec 2, 2022 8:16 pm

PintSizedBox10 wrote:
stillgotgame wrote:
PintSizedBox10 wrote:Barry didn't miss 22 tackles against Philly.

Barry put people in positions to fail.
At least 1/4 of the missed tackles were Quay getting juked by Hurts. Barry was the dumb ass who put Quay in the spy position.
Has he not seen Quay all year? Reacting is what Quay's worst at, being aggressive and going upfield is where he has excelled.

Sounds more like a Quay issue if he's constantly whiffing tackles.

He has no instincts for the ball carrier, none. I'd bet he'd make a good tight end though.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #57 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Fri Dec 2, 2022 8:27 pm

stillgotgame wrote:
PintSizedBox10 wrote:
stillgotgame wrote:
Barry put people in positions to fail.
At least 1/4 of the missed tackles were Quay getting juked by Hurts. Barry was the dumb ass who put Quay in the spy position.
Has he not seen Quay all year? Reacting is what Quay's worst at, being aggressive and going upfield is where he has excelled.

Sounds more like a Quay issue if he's constantly whiffing tackles.

He has no instincts for the ball carrier, none. I'd bet he'd make a good tight end though.

That's umm a very concerning trait for a MLB they took in round 1.

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Post #58 » by **MickeyDavis** » Fri Dec 2, 2022 8:52 pm

I give all rookies a pass in year 1. Many hated the Gary pick and were ready to move on when he wasn't an instant stud. I'll wait until year 2 before I pass sentence.

Matches Malone · Post #59 » by **Matches Malone** » Fri Dec 2, 2022 9:17 pm

Dave can't catch a break.

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Giannisland34 · Post #60 » by **Giannisland34** » Fri Dec 2, 2022 9:39 pm

stillgotgame wrote:
PintSizedBox10 wrote:
stillgotgame wrote:
Barry put people in positions to fail.
At least 1/4 of the missed tackles were Quay getting juked by Hurts. Barry was the dumb ass who put Quay in the spy position.
Has he not seen Quay all year? Reacting is what Quay's worst at, being aggressive and going upfield is where he has excelled.

Sounds more like a Quay issue if he's constantly whiffing tackles.

He has no instincts for the ball carrier, none. I'd bet he'd make a good tight end though.

When’s the green font or punchline of the joke coming? Seriously! Barry has been terrible. I suppose it’s on Quay when it’s 3rd and 3 or 5 and the corners are playing off the WRs by 10 yards too. I can go on and on with Barry’s issues running this defense. Talent wise this should have a top 5 defense and it’s performed much much worse then that.