Game 17: Lions at Packers - 1/8/22 - 7:20 - NBC

LittleRooster · Post #661 » by **LittleRooster** » Mon Jan 9, 2023 4:42 am

VooDoo7 wrote:Rodgers made LaF look good the past few seasons. Same way Giannis makes Bud look good. But when you look thru all the bullsh*t, you can tell both guys just aren't great coaches.

You have it backwards and don’t you remember how good rodgers looked the last couple years with MM

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HKPackFan · Post #662 » by **HKPackFan** » Mon Jan 9, 2023 4:42 am

Treebeard wrote:
Mags FTW wrote:
Team needs an NFL caliber TE that is actually a red zone target.

Tonyan is the best of the lot and he's just a journeyman free agent now. Who was the last better-than-average TE the Packers have had on the roster - Finley?

We have needed a te forever.

Finley and a brief season w/the guy who caught that impossible 4th down catch in Dallas playoff game years ago.

Been pretty barren for most of last couple decades.

PintSizedBox10 · Post #663 » by **PintSizedBox10** » Mon Jan 9, 2023 4:42 am

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
Treebeard wrote:
Mags FTW wrote:
Team needs an NFL caliber TE that is actually a red zone target.

Tonyan is the best of the lot and he's just a journeyman free agent now. Who was the last better-than-average TE the Packers have had on the roster - Finley?
Cook and then they let him leave for no apparent reason and replaced him with Graham corpse.

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Tight wad Ted (RIP) didn't wanna pay Cook.

VooDoo7 · Post #664 » by **VooDoo7** » Mon Jan 9, 2023 4:42 am

That 4th down call with the run to Lazard is reason enough to fire him.

Post #665 » by **MickeyDavis** » Mon Jan 9, 2023 4:43 am

Gute had a pretty good draft last year…

sdn40 · Post #666 » by **sdn40** » Mon Jan 9, 2023 4:44 am

Some of you need to look at approximately 28 other franchises and their personnel and drafting before pulling the trigger on firing Gute.

slappyg · Post #667 » by **slappyg** » Mon Jan 9, 2023 4:45 am

sdn40 wrote:Some of you need to look at approximately 28 other franchises and their personnel and drafting before pulling the trigger on firing Gute.

Barry is #1 on my list of who has to go

PintSizedBox10 · Post #668 » by **PintSizedBox10** » Mon Jan 9, 2023 4:47 am

sdn40 wrote:Some of you need to look at approximately 28 other franchises and their personnel and drafting before pulling the trigger on firing Gute.

He inherited a HOF QB, HOF WR, elite LT, & elite RB. Sure, he's added a few good pieces but so has every other GM in the league.

sdn40 · Post #669 » by **sdn40** » Mon Jan 9, 2023 4:47 am

Neither MLF or Gute are going anywhere. And those that think Murphy has his hands on anything other than sledding hills and hotels are showing your ignorance

Iheartfootball · Post #670 » by **Iheartfootball** » Mon Jan 9, 2023 4:47 am

MickeyDavis wrote:Gute had a pretty good draft last year…

I don’t think Gute’s the biggest offender. I think the roster looks worse because of bad coaching and schemes.

At a minimum, MLF and Barry have to go. I’d like to see Murphy gone as well. No way a new president isn’t bringing in their own GM.

I’m also pretty emotional right now and had a few beers. Catch me in the AM.

Big Dog Yank · Post #671 » by **Big Dog Yank** » Mon Jan 9, 2023 4:48 am

MickeyDavis wrote:Savage on St.Brown over and over and over…. If MLF brings back Barry then I’d say MLF should go.

Sure, but it still reflects poorly on MLF. I know he's an offensive guy and he lets Barry run the defense. Still, he's the damn head coach! If we can see the mismatch, shouldn't he?

If he does, why the hell doesn't he tell Barry to knock that sh*t off!

If he doesn't, then he's not fit to be a head coach.

Either way, it's on him.

Mags FTW · Post #672 » by **Mags FTW** » Mon Jan 9, 2023 4:49 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
Mags FTW wrote:
Team needs an NFL caliber TE that is actually a red zone target.

TT before him and Gutey never got this. We’ve needed a great TE forever.

Tried miserably with Martellus and Graham.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #673 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon Jan 9, 2023 4:49 am

VooDoo7 wrote:Rodgers made LaF look good the past few seasons. Same way Giannis makes Bud look good. But when you look thru all the bullsh*t, you can tell both guys just aren't great coaches.

How many coaches in each league to you consider good/acceptable? If you think those two suck then that list has to be pretty small.

I'm more of a players matter more and coaches get a little too much credit and blame. Probably why I'm not really a fire every coach all the time guy. I think you can get in a cycle with that and have a hard time coming out. But I've probably been too patient with a guy like MM (I was absolutely pro fire him by the time it actually happened).

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Daver · Post #674 » by **Daver** » Mon Jan 9, 2023 4:49 am

slappyg wrote:
sdn40 wrote:Some of you need to look at approximately 28 other franchises and their personnel and drafting before pulling the trigger on firing Gute.

Barry is #1 on my list of who has to go

I don't think Barry should not be blamed for tonight.That O should of had 21 points by half that's not on barry.Those ass garbage O play calls wasnt on Barry the D didn't lose tonight's game but I think he will be gone.

VooDoo7 · Post #675 » by **VooDoo7** » Mon Jan 9, 2023 4:50 am

LittleRooster wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:Rodgers made LaF look good the past few seasons. Same way Giannis makes Bud look good. But when you look thru all the bullsh*t, you can tell both guys just aren't great coaches.

You have it backwards and don’t you remember how good rodgers looked the last couple years with MM

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Last 3 years under McCarthy.

2016- 4,428 yds, 40 TDs, 7 INTs
2017- Only played 7 games
2018- 4,442 yds, 25 TDs, 2 INTs

Definitely not terrible. You're not gonna convince me that Rodgers owes anything to Matt LaFluer. Rodgers was one of the best ever before LaF got here. Come on now.

BJ Sandered · Post #676 » by **BJ Sandered** » Mon Jan 9, 2023 4:50 am

trwi7 wrote:
sdn40 wrote:
MoreTrife wrote:
I gotta do that for sports in general. Packers, Brewers, Bucks. Hours and hours lost. But then I'd have to figure out what to fill it with!

A Golden Girls marathon would have been better than the 1st half

No ****? Golden Girls is a great show.

trwi7 is Deadpool confirmed.

Dennis Reynolds · Post #677 » by **Dennis Reynolds** » Mon Jan 9, 2023 4:50 am

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:MLF won’t and shouldn’t. be fired. Come on now,
Yeah and if he did he would have another job in a week. Now that's not to say he doesn't deserve criticism for how these seasons have ended.

Now Gute, well that's far more debatable and I'm not sure he'd ever get another GM job. I doubt he gets fired but I wouldn't shed a tear if he did.

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Lol, he might get the Texans job or the Colts one if Irsay has really lost his mind, that's about it.

HKPackFan · Post #678 » by **HKPackFan** » Mon Jan 9, 2023 4:50 am

Murphy has no balls, wants to sit back and let the team run on autopilot. Teams broken time to get stuff done.

sdn40 · Post #679 » by **sdn40** » Mon Jan 9, 2023 4:52 am

PintSizedBox10 wrote:
sdn40 wrote:Some of you need to look at approximately 28 other franchises and their personnel and drafting before pulling the trigger on firing Gute.

He inherited a HOF QB, HOF WR, elite LT, & elite RB. Sure, he's added a few good pieces but so has every other GM in the league.

It's not his fault he inherited pieces. You should really sit down and think about how many pieces he has added. Smith x 2, Amos, and the OL whose name escapes me in the first year alone

VooDoo7 · Post #680 » by **VooDoo7** » Mon Jan 9, 2023 4:52 am

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:Rodgers made LaF look good the past few seasons. Same way Giannis makes Bud look good. But when you look thru all the bullsh*t, you can tell both guys just aren't great coaches.
How many coaches in each league to you consider good/acceptable? If you think those two suck then that list has to be pretty small.

I'm more of a players matter more and coaches get a little too much credit and blame. Probably why I'm not really a fire every coach all the time guy. I think you can get in a cycle with that and have a hard time coming out. But I've probably been too patient with a guy like MM (I was absolutely pro fire him by the time it actually happened).

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Some coaches overstay their welcome longer than others (McCarthy). Sometimes you gotta see what a coach is really about and cut bait sooner than later instead of wasting away seasons.