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Re: Saints Leadup 

Post#81 » by MVP2110 » Sat Sep 23, 2023 3:38 pm

stillgotgame wrote:
skones wrote:
stillgotgame wrote:
I disagree.
Here's 11 plays he made at least 5 yards downfield:

1st & 10 at ATL 20
(13:54 - 1st) (Shotgun) D.Ridder pass short right to D.London to ATL 29 for 9 yards (K.Clark; Q.Walker).

2nd & 1 at ATL 29
(13:20 - 1st) (Shotgun) B.Robinson left end to ATL 36 for 7 yards (D.Campbell; Q.Walker).

2nd & 10 at GB 41
(7:56 - 1st) D.Ridder pass short right to J.Smith pushed ob at GB 34 for 7 yards (Q.Walker).

2nd & 1 at GB 20
(5:57 - 1st) (Shotgun) D.Ridder pass short right to B.Robinson pushed ob at GB 11 for 9 yards (Q.Walker).

1st & 10 at ATL 34
(11:25 - 2nd) B.Robinson right tackle to GB 47 for 19 yards (R.Douglas, Q.Walker).

2nd & 5 at ATL 30
(2:28 - 2nd) (Shotgun) B.Robinson left end to ATL 39 for 9 yards (Q.Walker).

1st & 10 at GB 48
(1:53 - 2nd) (No Huddle, Shotgun) D.Ridder pass short right to M.Hollins to GB 40 for 8 yards (Q.Walker).

1st & 10 at ATL 25
(10:29 - 3rd) (Shotgun) B.Robinson right tackle to ATL 38 for 13 yards (Q.Walker).

1st & 10 at ATL 38
(9:44 - 3rd) B.Robinson right end to ATL 43 for 5 yards (D.Campbell, Q.Walker).

1st & 10 at GB 32
(4:17 - 4th) B.Robinson right tackle to GB 27 for 5 yards (Q.Walker, K.Clark).

3rd & 6 at GB 12
(1:47 - 4th) B.Robinson left end to GB 7 for 5 yards (Q.Walker; P.Smith).

This screams Blake Martinez. Anyone can lead the league in tackles when the angle they take is 10 yards downfield. I think this is more on Barry than Quay though.


This isn't how football works. That's it. That's the post.


Did you watch the game? I guess you're so used to us tackling 10 yards downfield after getting gaped at the line of scrimmage you think this is good. I'll just say I disagree.



Now tell me about how 4 pressures on the QB or 4 run stops, or not missing a tackle is somehow bad.
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Re: Saints Leadup 

Post#82 » by skones » Sat Sep 23, 2023 3:46 pm

stillgotgame wrote:
Did you watch the game? I guess you're so used to us tackling 10 yards downfield after getting gaped at the line of scrimmage you think this is good. I'll just say I disagree.


You understand how this is absolutely baffling right? When did Quay Walker become a DT? But yeah, PFF is pretty reliable and well respected, sooooooo, disagree I guess, but it just sort of looks like you're bashing your head against a wall out of stubborness?
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Re: Saints Leadup 

Post#83 » by Ayt » Sat Sep 23, 2023 4:04 pm

stillgotgame wrote:
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Dude currently grades out an 88.8 through two games on PFF. When I said Quay was excellent I meant it.


Quay has been awesome. He's been their best defensive player so far. It's only 2 games so I want to see if he can continue to sustain it but it's been awesome to see so far


I disagree.
Here's 11 plays he made at least 5 yards downfield:

1st & 10 at ATL 20
(13:54 - 1st) (Shotgun) D.Ridder pass short right to D.London to ATL 29 for 9 yards (K.Clark; Q.Walker).

2nd & 1 at ATL 29
(13:20 - 1st) (Shotgun) B.Robinson left end to ATL 36 for 7 yards (D.Campbell; Q.Walker).

2nd & 10 at GB 41
(7:56 - 1st) D.Ridder pass short right to J.Smith pushed ob at GB 34 for 7 yards (Q.Walker).

2nd & 1 at GB 20
(5:57 - 1st) (Shotgun) D.Ridder pass short right to B.Robinson pushed ob at GB 11 for 9 yards (Q.Walker).

1st & 10 at ATL 34
(11:25 - 2nd) B.Robinson right tackle to GB 47 for 19 yards (R.Douglas, Q.Walker).

2nd & 5 at ATL 30
(2:28 - 2nd) (Shotgun) B.Robinson left end to ATL 39 for 9 yards (Q.Walker).

1st & 10 at GB 48
(1:53 - 2nd) (No Huddle, Shotgun) D.Ridder pass short right to M.Hollins to GB 40 for 8 yards (Q.Walker).

1st & 10 at ATL 25
(10:29 - 3rd) (Shotgun) B.Robinson right tackle to ATL 38 for 13 yards (Q.Walker).

1st & 10 at ATL 38
(9:44 - 3rd) B.Robinson right end to ATL 43 for 5 yards (D.Campbell, Q.Walker).

1st & 10 at GB 32
(4:17 - 4th) B.Robinson right tackle to GB 27 for 5 yards (Q.Walker, K.Clark).

3rd & 6 at GB 12
(1:47 - 4th) B.Robinson left end to GB 7 for 5 yards (Q.Walker; P.Smith).

This screams Blake Martinez. Anyone can lead the league in tackles when the angle they take is 10 yards downfield. I think this is more on Barry than Quay though.


You could literally do the same thing for the best MLB's in history. What a **** post. :lol:
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Re: Saints Leadup 

Post#84 » by stillgotgame » Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:10 pm

skones wrote:
stillgotgame wrote:
Did you watch the game? I guess you're so used to us tackling 10 yards downfield after getting gaped at the line of scrimmage you think this is good. I'll just say I disagree.


You understand how this is absolutely baffling right? When did Quay Walker become a DT? But yeah, PFF is pretty reliable and well respected, sooooooo, disagree I guess, but it just sort of looks like you're bashing your head against a wall out of stubborness?


What was his rush defense grade? 61.7

Yep, banging my head against the wall. The scheme we run sucks. Quay should be closer to the line of scrimmage and moving up the field.
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Re: Saints Leadup 

Post#85 » by jakecronus8 » Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:48 pm

I wish they'd get more creative with Quay the athlete. Would be cool to see him occasionally as a bull rusher or let him get a head of steam on a delayed blitz. If theyre only going to use him as a thumper and occasional cover guy it really was a waste of a first round pick.
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Re: Saints Leadup 

Post#86 » by MVP2110 » Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:57 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:I wish they'd get more creative with Quay the athlete. Would be cool to see him occasionally as a bull rusher or let him get a head of steam on a delayed blitz. If theyre only going to use him as a thumper and occasional cover guy it really was a waste of a first round pick.


I mean he had 4 QB pressures last week so it's not like they don't blitz him. I would be intrigued to see him line up at Edge from time to time but we're so deep there I understand why we don't
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