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JEIS wrote:Micah Parsons podcast The Edge had Jordan Love on..Dude Legit was steady trying to get dirt on how to beat the Packers.. and Love was taking the bait. Was pretty wild Love was answering his questions.
jakecronus8 wrote:
Such a weird thing I've seen multiple times now. Other than measurables Dillon has next to none of the skillset required
Gery Woelfel wrote:Got a time big boy?
Matches Malone wrote:
(They talk about it early in the episode, so you don't have to listen to it all or skip through it.)
humanrefutation wrote:
We see this over and over again with former Packers - the money is greener elsewhere.
skones wrote:humanrefutation wrote:
We see this over and over again with former Packers - the money is greener elsewhere.
FIFY, and given the nature of this game, I can't blame any of them one bit.
humanrefutation wrote:skones wrote:humanrefutation wrote:
We see this over and over again with former Packers - the money is greener elsewhere.
FIFY, and given the nature of this game, I can't blame any of them one bit.
I'll never begrudge a player who wants to get paid elsewhere, but in this case, the money wasn't greener in Las Vegas. The Packers offered Davante a massive extension that matched (or even slightly exceeded, IIRC?) what he got in LV. He just wanted out of Green Bay.
Gery Woelfel wrote:Got a time big boy?
skones wrote:humanrefutation wrote:skones wrote:
FIFY, and given the nature of this game, I can't blame any of them one bit.
I'll never begrudge a player who wants to get paid elsewhere, but in this case, the money wasn't greener in Las Vegas. The Packers offered Davante a massive extension that matched (or even slightly exceeded, IIRC?) what he got in LV. He just wanted out of Green Bay.
It's easy to look back in hindsight and say, hey, things look good. He was in a situation where Green Bay didn't give him the extension when he said he would sign and made him play a season with no security (while he's garnering AP1 nods), and then the Aaron Rodgers situation became increasingly volatile. If we just give him the extension when he wanted it, he'd still be here, but much like the Packers had done for years with Rodgers, they continually pushed their boomer approach to an organization, and then it finally bit them in the ass.
Make no mistake, we lucked out for now, but if the approach doesn't change, we're in for more of the same with what we have now, and it's going to happen a lot sooner as the NIL world continues to funnel into the league.
Wizardofwisc wrote:
While you might not be incorrect in your take, I also think both Rodgers and Adams might also have a bit of anger misdirected toward the organization. While I have no idea what truly went on behind the scenes. I also have always got the feeling they were frustrated the team did not win the owl. When you get as close as we have come and still cannot break through, there is bound to be some frustration. I believe some of this frustration might have been misdirected toward the organization.
skones wrote:Wizardofwisc wrote:
While you might not be incorrect in your take, I also think both Rodgers and Adams might also have a bit of anger misdirected toward the organization. While I have no idea what truly went on behind the scenes. I also have always got the feeling they were frustrated the team did not win the owl. When you get as close as we have come and still cannot break through, there is bound to be some frustration. I believe some of this frustration might have been misdirected toward the organization.
Is it misdirection if the franchise never quite involved him for input within the organization (Rodgers specifically)? Is it misdirected if years and years went by without the team utilizing a MAJOR component of offseason roster building in free agency? I think these are the primary reasons for frustration, and if you look at that as a player and you're not winning Super Bowls, you're asking yourself, "Why aren't we doing all we can to win this thing?"
So sure, there was frustration that we didn't win the whole damn thing again. Is a lot of the underlying stuff on the org? I think it was. Rodgers himself certainly deserves some culpability for his performances in the playoffs, so it's not ALL on the org either.
It's also not unique to Rodgers as Brady felt the same in New England toward Bill who kept publicly riding him in front of the team. Player treatment matters, ESPECIALLY when you're the guy under center making the whole thing go. We often talk about, "What Giannis wants, he gets" on the Bucks board, but folks like to take an entirely different approach towards football. That is crazy to me in such a pass heavy league, because your all pro QB gets you 8-9 wins by himself on a lot of occasions.
Correct these issues with Love or we'll see the same thing happen.
Gery Woelfel wrote:Got a time big boy?
MVP2110 wrote:
Also, giving players too much control is almost always a bad idea, as we found out when Rodgers brought all his buddies home and as we are finding out now with the Bucks. Players are almost always bad GMs.
