Thoughts on the final 53 and depth chart

benchmobbin02 · Post #81 » by **benchmobbin02** » Thu Oct 1, 2015 8:06 pm

We know the Jelly gets push, he is huge haha. What we don't know is how they will adjust the rotation with him being back healthy. Last game Tuck Williams and McGee started with Mack and Aldon on the edges. They subbed Autry for Tuck early and then on passing downs when they brought in the nickelback they used Tuck Autry Mack and Smith.

We had a lot of success with this during the first few drives. Due to fatigue and Goalline we sprinkled in CJ Wilson and Edward on the interior and Ball and Armstrong on the outside.

Jelly just taking McGee spot is the most likely scenerio but I think Jelly and Williams are both NTs really in this scheme and that McGee Wilson and Edwards are better 5 technique guys in this system. I know Jelly and Williams are the better players at this point but using a rotation, keeping all your linemen fresh and putting the right guys in the right positions is key for this line.

I'd like to see us stick with the current rotaion and Jelly comes in to spell Williams, on clear rushing down and goalline downs. They will split the NT snaps to keep them both fresh all game. Tuck Autry and Mayowa can rotate on passing downs on one side with McGee Wilson and Edwards rotating in the 5 spot.

Twinkie defense · Post #82 » by **Twinkie defense** » Mon Oct 5, 2015 7:55 pm

benchmobbin02 · Post #83 » by **benchmobbin02** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 7:01 pm

Injuries continue for our beleaguered defense. Carrie was stated as out earlier this week but then Mays didn't recover from a foot injury he sustained in the Bears game and was cut. Carrie was bumped up to QUES. and Tevin McDonald was signed from the Practice Squad. McDonald has been with the team all thru the offseason and reg season practices so he should be up to speed on the defense but if he has to see significant minutes, Peyton will be looking his way, not that we have a guy Peyton would be overly concerned with beside a 100% Carrie.

Twinkie defense · Post #84 » by **Twinkie defense** » Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:12 pm

Its too early to get a bead on our 2015 draft but Lincoln Kennedy said something this morning that caught my ear as it relates to our discussions about Raiders drafts.

He said he though 3rd round pick Clive Walford's problem is he seems to lack heart and drive. If that is the case, ouch!

Similarly, 2nd round pick Marion Edwards Jr. Has not yet made an impact.

While on the other hand, rookie 5th round pick Neiron Ball had a great game yesterday and looks to become a fixture at LB.

I'm telling you, Reggie is good at not diverting from the consensus picks at premium spots in the draft. He is good at finding solid players in the later rounds. He seems to have trouble finding quality starters at the top of the draft unless they are no-brainer picks like Mack, Carr, and Cooper.

I thought that last season and this season that appears early on to be even more the case.

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benchmobbin02 · Post #85 » by **benchmobbin02** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 5:26 am

What are you talking about...I mean, really?

Those guys are rookies. Walford missed a lot of time in the off + pre-season and is behind Rivera, Reece and Smith(in blocking sets). He will be a good player when he has the chance to get the snaps and reps. It might not happen for him this year but he will take over Rivera's spot at some point when him and Carr can get some chemistry and we will all be saying good riddance.

Edwards is behind Tuck Mack and Smith. Do you think he should be taking any of their snaps? I'll answer that for you, NO.

So there goes your theory for this year.

Last year, (2014) the high picks that weren't no-brainers were Gabe Jackson and Jelly. Both quality starters. And I remember that draft well and Carr was far from a no-brainer pick.

The year before that (2013) was Watson in the 2nd rd and Sio Moore in the 3rd. Both would be starting for us right now if not for serious injuries.

And before that was his first draft with us in 2012. He was hired in Jan and had 6 months to put together a front office, scouting dept, redo the org structure, assess and make a plan for a bad team over the cap and only had 2 picks in the draft straight up. We got 3 more in comp picks and Reggie traded a low pick for 2 lower picks. That draft was a wash basically.

Twinkie defense · Post #86 » by **Twinkie defense** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:44 pm

benchmobbin02 · Post #87 » by **benchmobbin02** » Wed Oct 14, 2015 12:36 am

Last time, I checked he wasn't on the Raiders. Should be in the Around the league thread. But yes, he isn't doing well. Without Charles the Kiefs are in trouble.

Twinkie defense · Post #88 » by **Twinkie defense** » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:46 pm

Oops I thought I was posting that in the around the league thread... I'll move it over.

Twinkie defense · Post #89 » by **Twinkie defense** » Thu Oct 15, 2015 12:19 am

Justin Tuck might need to go on IR with a shoulder injury - that would be tough, he's been playing pretty well.

Twinkie defense · Post #90 » by **Twinkie defense** » Thu Oct 15, 2015 5:45 pm

Torn pectoral muscle, surgery, IR for Tuck - good opportunity for Mario Edwards Jr. to show what he's got.

Quake Griffin · Post #91 » by **Quake Griffin** » Thu Oct 15, 2015 6:00 pm

Yup.
and Mario has played well the last couple weeks.

Neiron Ball has showed up as well. Real solid in coverage last week.

2015 draft? So far. So good.

benchmobbin02 · Post #92 » by **benchmobbin02** » Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:49 am

Yes sir! The tread continues of draft picks stepping up. I hope to see more of Edwards and Ball with those young legs being bright spots but everyone needs to be ready for teams going after them due to lack of experience. They will make mistakes and still be future rungs in our ladder to success.

We also waived the SS Lambert today. Just didn't make enough of an impact and Amerson has fit our system well as I predicted. With Tuck going down look for us to make a move on the DL most likely seeing as Autry (Concussion), Jelly (Ankle) and Mayowa (Knee) and CJ Wilson (Calf) all have missed time.

Maybe Harris Orr or Valles gets a call up from the PS or something unexpected. We'll find out next week most likely when guys have had a chance to heal and we can do workouts if needed.

Twinkie defense · Post #93 » by **Twinkie defense** » Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:54 pm

Nope we signed a return specialist.

Of course another spot is going to open up soon when Tuck goes on IR. And with the bye this weekend I'm not sure when someone might need to report, probably not urgent.

benchmobbin02 · Post #94 » by **benchmobbin02** » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:23 am

It's a great move bringing in Powell. We can't have Cooper and Carrie returning kicks anymore. I've held my breath on all 4 of Coopers returns.

Here is Levi Damien's break down of him from Silver and Black:
As a rookie in 2014, he spent four games in New York, returning 8 kickoffs for 233 yards and 12 punts for 48 yards. This preseason he returned a punt 54 yards for a touchdown, but was still among the Jets' cuts prior to the season and was placed back on the practice squad. The Bills signed him to their practice squad on October 6.

Here is his punt return in the Preseason
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSl4eoe_hz4[/youtube]

And his 2014 draft tape
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YrUqgCEL1o[/youtube]

benchmobbin02 · Post #95 » by **benchmobbin02** » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:28 am

Still expect to add to the front 7 in some form before the next game. I think they are waiting to see how Jelly and Autry shake out injury wise to see if they need a NT/DT 1 technique type or a DE/DT 5 technique type. I hope they both can get back soon. Our DL was a strength coming into the season.

benchmobbin02 · Post #96 » by **benchmobbin02** » Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:15 am

Well, we were wrong. Tuck to IR and we resigned Taylor Mays. Seems we are okay with the front 7 depth after all. I hope Autry and Jelly are cleared to practice tomorrow.

Neddy · Post #97 » by **Neddy** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:14 am

doesn't look good for Autry, but I don't think he is the one to make or break our front 7.

I just hope our secondary is ready against Rivers.

benchmobbin02 · Post #98 » by **benchmobbin02** » Sat Oct 24, 2015 5:56 am

Yeah, he was cleared earlier in the week and some symptoms came back so they just didn't wanna take a chance. Saying he won't make or break our front 7 is kinda general. Having him would really help keep guys like Edwards and Wilson stay rested. Every link in the chain matters. Not only was he really starting to play well vs Cle and Den but he played the most snaps out of the defensive linemen those two game. I think it's a big loss that he won't play and hopefully this doesn't drag out.

benchmobbin02 · Post #99 » by **benchmobbin02** » Sun Oct 25, 2015 3:37 am

We had to wait til the night before but the Raider added DE Shelby Harris from the PS and waived Tevin McDonald. Maybe they were making sure no one would go after McDonald. We don't know but the hole in the front 7 has been filled. Let's see who is among the 45 active tomorrow.

benchmobbin02 · Post #100 » by **benchmobbin02** » Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:46 pm

Something to watch out for as the week goes on. LB Ball left the game with a knee injury. Would be a big blow if we lose him for an extended period. Heeney has proven to not have the range and speed needed by the modern MLB.