2021-22 CF Season/2022 NFL draft

[Jikkle]

McDaniel to the Dolphins give us a 3rd round pick and given everything that's occurred as of this date the whole mortgage the farm for Lance narrative is overblown.

Despite not having a 1st which would've been 29th overall this season we're still looking at 4 day 2 picks with a 2nd and 3 3rd rounders. That's not counting what we get for Jimmy which should at least net a day 2 pick so we're looking at probably 5 picks in the 1st 3 rounds.

So this team is still in good shape to add quality players through the draft to the roster and they could maintain that as Ryans is looking at a HC gig soonish and Lynn was a former HC who might get another shot if he rehabs his image being on the 9ers staff.

[thesack12]

McDaniel to the Dolphins give us a 3rd round pick and given everything that's occurred as of this date the whole mortgage the farm for Lance narrative is overblown.

Despite not having a 1st which would've been 29th overall this season we're still looking at 4 day 2 picks with a 2nd and 3 3rd rounders. That's not counting what we get for Jimmy which should at least net a day 2 pick so we're looking at probably 5 picks in the 1st 3 rounds.

So this team is still in good shape to add quality players through the draft to the roster and they could maintain that as Ryans is looking at a HC gig soonish and Lynn was a former HC who might get another shot if he rehabs his image being on the 9ers staff.

Agree with your points here, But simply for accounting purposes with the 3rd round picks:

9ers have their own 3rd in 2022
9ers get a compensatory 3rd for Saleh in 2022
9ers get a compensatory 3rd for McDaniel in 2022
9ers get a compensatory 3rd for Mayhew in 2023
9ers get a compensatory 3rd for McDaniel in 2023

9ers owe Miami the 2022 Compensatory 3rd from Saleh as part of the trade up to #3 last season.
Since Saleh and Mayhew were both hired away the same year, 9ers only get 1 pick for Mayhew which comes after the 2 for Saleh are conveyed.

So, 9ers currently have two 3rd round picks this year (their own + McDaniel compensatory). But as you mentioned they are likely to get more day 2 picks in a Garoppolo trade.

Still, considering 9ers won't have a 2022 or 2023 1st they are still set up fairly well with draft pick capital. And you make a good point about Ryans, so there's a really good chance the 49ers will be getting 2 more compensatory 3rds for him in the near future. Perhaps as soon as next season.

[CrimsonCrew]

Been reading up on the Senior Bowl a bit, and I'm starting to get the crazy idea that we could see a DE in the second round. Seems like we've used a ton of high picks on DL lately, and CB is absolutely more of a need, but a strong DL is incredibly important to our success on D, and the DL class in this draft is very deep. Corner isn't as much so, and I'd rather take a guy I think has the potential to be an impact player than reach on a position of need. Particularly as, while we have several decent guys tentatively slotted at DE opposite Bosa (though Key and Willis are FAs, and Ebukam could be a salary cap cut), none of them really stands out. There is definite appeal to adding a true pass rusher, assuming the value is there.

[thesack12]

Been reading up on the Senior Bowl a bit, and I'm starting to get the crazy idea that we could see a DE in the second round. Seems like we've used a ton of high picks on DL lately, and CB is absolutely more of a need, but a strong DL is incredibly important to our success on D, and the DL class in this draft is very deep. Corner isn't as much so, and I'd rather take a guy I think has the potential to be an impact player than reach on a position of need. Particularly as, while we have several decent guys tentatively slotted at DE opposite Bosa (though Key and Willis are FAs, and Ebukam could be a salary cap cut), none of them really stands out. There is definite appeal to adding a true pass rusher, assuming the value is there.

Well this regime sure does love to draft DL. So I'm sure they Go DL with at least one pick, probably more.

However, I think its worth noting that Kocurek has been able to coach up several lower investment players and get some solid production out of them. Ronald Blair, Kerry Hyder, DJ Jones, Arden Key, Jordan Willis, Kentavius Street, Charles Omenihu, Kevin Givens, Dion Jordan all come to mind.

Granted most of those guys have already hit their ceilings and are best suited as quality rotational/depth pieces. Still, when engineering their draft board I think they would be wise to factor in the fact that they have been able to get a good amount of value from low round draft picks (this includes trading those low picks) and cheaper free agents.

[CrimsonCrew]

Yeah, Kocurek has done a great job. Makes me wonder what he could do with a legit talent opposite Bosa. Granted Willis at least had elite measurables when he was coming out.

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

We need a more explosive LB to pair with Warner as well as a true ball hawk type safety that can play the single high in his sleep (i.e., Justin Simmons and Jesse Bates).

Devin Floyd is that type of linebacker that I would love for us to draft, but he’s going to end up being drafted way too high. Therefore we should focus our attention on a backer that we can develop in by 2023 become a starter). That player is Troy Andersen:

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[DreDinis21]

We need a more explosive LB to pair with Warner as well as a true ball hawk type safety that can play the single high in his sleep (i.e., Justin Simmons and Jesse Bates).

Devin Floyd is that type of linebacker that I would love for us to draft, but he’s going to end up being drafted way too high. Therefore we should focus our attention on a backer that we can develop in by 2023 become a starter). That player is Troy Andersen:

Watch on YouTube

You see Warner, Azeez, and Greenlaw and think we need an upgrade?

[CrimsonCrew]

We need a more explosive LB to pair with Warner as well as a true ball hawk type safety that can play the single high in his sleep (i.e., Justin Simmons and Jesse Bates).

Devin Floyd is that type of linebacker that I would love for us to draft, but he’s going to end up being drafted way too high. Therefore we should focus our attention on a backer that we can develop in by 2023 become a starter). That player is Troy Andersen:

Watch on YouTube

You see Warner, Azeez, and Greenlaw and think we need an upgrade?

Decent chance we can't keep all three, so I have no issues taking a shot on a developmental type in the later rounds. But I probably wouldn't look LB until the fourth or fifth round this year. If Andersen is still there, absolutely willing to take a look.

[DreDinis21]

I would agree on not looking at LB until 4th rd minimum tbh. LB is not on my list of must haves in this draft.

[CrimsonCrew]

Niners interviewed Andersen, so at least they know about him. Knowing our FO, if they like him, they'll probably pick him in the second....

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Niners interviewed Andersen, so at least they know about him. Knowing our FO, if they like him, they'll probably pick him in the second....

Knowing Kyle, he’d probably give him 1 or 2 snaps per game on offense near the goaline.

Andersen would be an immediate upgrade from Greenlaw.

[Dodub]

New draft crush: David Ojabo

[CrimsonCrew]

New draft crush: David Ojabo

He may be gone 50 spots ahead of our first pick. But with the Ward signing, a DE is even more likely with that second-round pick.

[Dodub]

New draft crush: David Ojabo

He may be gone 50 spots ahead of our first pick. But with the Ward signing, a DE is even more likely with that second-round pick.

I didn’t think he was viewed as a day 1 pick. I thought that he was more of a project so he’s a day 2 guy.

If he’s even close for the 2nd round then I’d be more than fine with a trade up. I’m still hoping for some sort of miracle with the Jimmy situation.

[CrimsonCrew]

New draft crush: David Ojabo

He may be gone 50 spots ahead of our first pick. But with the Ward signing, a DE is even more likely with that second-round pick.

I didn’t think he was viewed as a day 1 pick. I thought that he was more of a project so he’s a day 2 guy.

If he’s even close for the 2nd round then I’d be more than fine with a trade up. I’m still hoping for some sort of miracle with the Jimmy situation.

50 was probably a bit of overstatement, but I think he's pretty universally viewed as a first-round pick. I'm seeing him mocked as high as 7 (Walter Football and Sporting News) and 8 (NFL.com). And lots with him going in the teens. A few in the 20s, but I think most of those are pre-Combine.

Re: Jimmy, I'm hoping they are holding onto him only until the dust settles on Watson. They need cap space. I don't know how they even officially agree with Ward while he's still on the roster.

[Dodub]

He may be gone 50 spots ahead of our first pick. But with the Ward signing, a DE is even more likely with that second-round pick.

I didn’t think he was viewed as a day 1 pick. I thought that he was more of a project so he’s a day 2 guy.

If he’s even close for the 2nd round then I’d be more than fine with a trade up. I’m still hoping for some sort of miracle with the Jimmy situation.

50 was probably a bit of overstatement, but I think he's pretty universally viewed as a first-round pick. I'm seeing him mocked as high as 7 (Walter Football and Sporting News) and 8 (NFL.com). And lots with him going in the teens. A few in the 20s, but I think most of those are pre-Combine.

Re: Jimmy, I'm hoping they are holding onto him only until the dust settles on Watson. They need cap space. I don't know how they even officially agree with Ward while he's still on the roster.

Wow, I’ve really done a poor job of keeping up with the mocks. Pipe dream dead lol

[CrimsonCrew]

He's moved up a lot in public perception lately. And who knows, mock drafts aren't always correct. But in a very deep DE draft where our first pick (at least presently) is 61, I don't see any way that we land Ojabo.

The good news is, especially having added a starting CB on FA, this draft is shaping up nicely for us. Three day two picks with the hope of picking up one or two more. Really deep at DE, where I'm almost certain we'll use a second-day pick. Good depth at OL, where we'll need to add one or two guys. Lots of speed at receiver. We should be able to land some quality players at positions of need, even without the first round pick.

[CrimsonCrew]

Well maybe we do have a shot at him now. Tough break for him, but we'll have to see how serious it is:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33535988/michigan-lb-potential-2022-first-rounder-david-ojabo-injured-pro-day-workout

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Well maybe we do have a shot at him now. Tough break for him, but we'll have to see how serious it is:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33535988/michigan-lb-potential-2022-first-rounder-david-ojabo-injured-pro-day-workout

I came here to post this same news, but Crims beat me to the punch. I’m sharing it anyway lol

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[CrimsonCrew]

Figured it was going to be that or an ACL. As said, really tough break for him. It's a really deep DE class, so this sort of injury could cause him to fall pretty far. Still not confident we'll have a shot at him, but at least there's a chance now.