Official Minor League News Thread - 2007

Post #601 » by **nykgeneralmanager** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:42 am

cmaff, you'll get a kick out of this. Just a little tidbit from PP's section on the top 10 curveballs in the Yankees system:

Ian Kennedy: Just as is the case with his plus slider and plus changeup, Kennedy has impeccable command of a plus curveball. He gets a ton of movement with his breaking ball and can pile up the strikeouts with his big league curve.

His slider is definitely not plus. His curve probably isn't either, but it is very close to it and I believe it will be. But either way, this is from the PRESEASON! No way was his curve and slider considered plus then.

cmaff051 · Post #602 » by **cmaff051** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:50 am

For the record, Kennedy himself says he sits at 89-92 and occasionally hits 93.

EDIT: and yes, look at how they exagerrate everything at PP. It's ridiculous.

Post #603 » by **nykgeneralmanager** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:03 am

cmaff051 wrote:For the record, Kennedy himself says he sits at 89-92 and occasionally hits 93.

EDIT: and yes, look at how they exagerrate everything at PP. It's ridiculous.

Did he say this before the season? I ask because I've read something from George King that said Kennedy was touching 93 and sitting above 90. Also, Alan Horne's father posts over at nyyfans as you probably know. Alan sits in the stands at Trenton games and handles the gun, and he has told his father than Kennedy touches 93 a lot, once in a blue moon even 94. That tells me he is likely sitting 91-92 but can get it up higher. If those numbers are true, it certainly helps his status as a prospect.

Hopefully now that he is in AAA, there will be more reports from his games and we will get more info as to how hard he is throwing.

cmaff051 · Post #604 » by **cmaff051** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:08 pm

Horne - 8 IP, 5 H, 4 BB (1 IBB), 1 ER, 7 K. And that was only in 100 pitches.

He should be in AAA now.

Pharmcat · Post #605 » by **Pharmcat** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 7:58 pm

whats horne's ceiling?

cmaff051 · Post #606 » by **cmaff051** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:07 pm

The Kandi Man Rocks wrote:whats horne's ceiling?

Horne has power stuff - a 92-94 mph fastball that he can get up to 96 occasionally with a very good curveball that he gets alot of strikeouts on. He isn't a soft tosser, he has power stuff and isn't afraid of attacking hitters. I see his ceiling as a front of the rotation starter, but I think that's the best case (and therefore pretty unrealistic) scenario: but more realistically he'll be a middle to back of the rotation starter who can give us innings. His future is as a starter, not in the bullpen.

Post #607 » by **nykgeneralmanager** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 1:56 am

Joba's AAA debut: 5 innings, 4 hits, 1 BB, 0 R, 10 Ks :clap:

cmaff051 · Post #608 » by **cmaff051** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:10 am

He was throwing lots of curves and changeups too Lots of good ones. :droop:

Post #609 » by **nykgeneralmanager** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:10 am

cmaff051 wrote:He was throwing lots of curves and changeups too Lots of good ones.

If that's the case, you may want to rethink your position of Joba being unlikely to be an ace. :lol:

cmaff051 · Post #610 » by **cmaff051** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:12 am

nykgeneralmanager wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

If that's the case, you may want to rethink your position of Joba being unlikely to be an ace.

He's still not consistent with his secondary stuff like Hughes is.

Post #611 » by **nykgeneralmanager** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:15 am

cmaff051 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

He's still not consistent with his secondary stuff like Hughes is.

Yeah, Hughes is a once in a decade prospect. To be that advanced especially at such a young age is a scary thought. Joba is in the same boat as 99% of top pitching prospects, just work on the consistency of the secondary pitches. Sometimes it doesn't work out (Pelfrey, and perhaps Homer Bailey is on the same track). However, you have to like Joba's chances the way he has progressed in such a short amount of time.

Pharmcat · Post #612 » by **Pharmcat** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:37 am

whose better, Bailey or Joba?

bryant2011 · Post #613 » by **bryant2011** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:40 am

hey guys this is my first post on realgm.com. I've been following the board reading each post all year though. Great insight, I have really learned alot from you'll. The farm system has become exciting once again and I just hope the deadline just comes and passes. A couple of questions:

Does anyone of you'll know when Dellin is expected to come back to action after his little flare up with his elbow? I've heard Saturday anyone know if this is true? He's my favorite Yankee prospect got pics of him and everything.

Also, how highly touted is Zachary McAllister? Very young but you have to love his GO:AO ratio and is starting to strikeout more this year in S.I.

And, how does Marquez project? He's 2nd behind Dellin as my favorite Yankees prospect.

Pharmcat · Post #614 » by **Pharmcat** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:47 am

would any of you cats trade one of our pitching prospects for that Atl catcher, Satlmachia (sp?) :dontknow:

cmaff051 · Post #615 » by **cmaff051** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:48 am

The Kandi Man Rocks wrote:whose better, Bailey or Joba?

Joba has more command that Bailey. So I say Joba.

Jitpal · Post #616 » by **Jitpal** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:52 am

The Kandi Man Rocks wrote:would any of you cats trade one of our pitching prospects for that Atl catcher, Satlmachia (sp?)

I wouldn't deal Chamberlain but a Horne or Kennedy package I would look at. We don't have any decent high level catching prospect, except for Cervilli. Thing is you know Salty can hit major league pitching, you don't know that about Cervilli. Plus, his extra long name wouldn't be a problem with us. Just my two cents. -Jitpal

cmaff051 · Post #617 » by **cmaff051** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:53 am

bryant2011 wrote:hey guys this is my first post on realgm.com. I've been following the board reading each post all year though. Great insight, I have really learned alot from you'll. The farm system has become exciting once again and I just hope the deadline just comes and passes. A couple of questions:

Welcome. Post as much as you'd like, we don't bite.

Does anyone of you'll know when Dellin is expected to come back to action after his little flare up with his elbow? I've heard Saturday anyone know if this is true? He's my favorite Yankee prospect got pics of him and everything.

I heard either the 27th or the 28th... so either Friday or Saturday is when I am expecting him back.

Also, how highly touted is Zachary McAllister? Very young but you have to love his GO:AO ratio and is starting to strikeout more this year in S.I.

McAllister is a raw but very projectable arm. He is not highly regarded yet, but if he keeps up these numbers, he'll started getting some pub. Right now, he's behind Betances in the limelight, although there is an argument to be made that McAllister has been better.

And, how does Marquez project? He's 2nd behind Dellin as my favorite Yankees prospect.

Marquez's best case scenario is a middle of the rotation innings eater. But he's far away from that. He's got a very nice sinker, but his changeup and curveball are fairly inconsistent, given the lack of strikeouts he gets. But the changeup and curveball have the potential to be very good pitches. I envision him as another Ramiro Mendoza... a swing man is what I see him as.

Post #618 » by **nykgeneralmanager** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:57 am

The Kandi Man Rocks wrote:whose better, Bailey or Joba?

Certainly Joba IMO. His secondary stuff is not only better, but he has better command. Bailey is as wild as Proctor and Farnsworth combined. :lol:

Post #619 » by **nykgeneralmanager** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:57 am

The Kandi Man Rocks wrote:would any of you cats trade one of our pitching prospects for that Atl catcher, Satlmachia (sp?)

I wouldn't deal Hughes or Chamberlain for him, and ATL wouldn't take anything less than Hughes or Chamberlain. So it wouldn't happen, but it would be awesome if it did.

Pharmcat · Post #620 » by **Pharmcat** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 2:58 am

has angel reyes progressed well at all?