Is Wang in contract year?

Monkeyfeng06 · Post #1 » by **Monkeyfeng06** » Sat Sep 1, 2007 11:34 am

i was wondering.. is wang in his contract year? if so, what will be his salary like next year if he signs a new contract? how much money would you give him?

cmaff051 · Post #2 » by **cmaff051** » Sat Sep 1, 2007 1:13 pm

He is arbitration eligible next year. Year 1 of 3. I'm not sure how much he is due, but it's not much. Maybe $2-3 mil next year?

Same thing with Cano.

Jitpal · Post #3 » by **Jitpal** » Sat Sep 1, 2007 2:46 pm

At least with the Yanks you know they will sign their young kids and keep them around rather than let them go somewhere else be all-stars. -Jitpal

Monkeyfeng06 · Post #4 » by **Monkeyfeng06** » Sat Sep 1, 2007 3:49 pm

cmaff051 wrote:He is arbitration eligible next year.

what's that?

Post #5 » by **nykgeneralmanager** » Sat Sep 1, 2007 8:19 pm

Monkeyfeng06 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

what's that?

After three years of service in the majors, players have 3 years of arbitration eligibility before they become free agents. Basically a team will offer a player an amount (lets say $10 million) and the player will ask for $13 million, then an arbitrator will decide which amount the player is worth out of the two. For instance, Carlos Zambrano got $12.5 million in arbitration this season. They are just 1 year deals until a player becomes a free agent after 6 major league seasons.

Jose7 · Post #6 » by **Jose7** » Sun Sep 2, 2007 4:12 am

nykgeneralmanager wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

After three years of service in the majors, players have 3 years of arbitration eligibility before they become free agents. Basically a team will offer a player an amount (lets say $10 million) and the player will ask for $13 million, then an arbitrator will decide which amount the player is worth out of the two. For instance, Carlos Zambrano got $12.5 million in arbitration this season. They are just 1 year deals until a player becomes a free agent after 6 major league seasons.

Yep, the Yankees basically have to say how much he sucks and Wang has to say how good he is in front of a judge unless they decide to skip Arb and re sign him longterm like how the Mets did with Wright and Reyes but doing that is VERY tricky with pitchers.

Post #7 » by **nykgeneralmanager** » Sun Sep 2, 2007 4:18 am

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Monkeyfeng06 · Post #8 » by **Monkeyfeng06** » Sun Sep 2, 2007 5:40 am

wow.. that's the weirdest stuff ever...

34Celtic · Post #9 » by **34Celtic** » Tue Sep 4, 2007 5:39 pm

CONTRACT INFO: 2007: Near Minimum, 2008: Super Two?, 2009-11: Arb. Eligible, 2012: Free Agent

This is what I got from http://www.rotoworld.com/content/player ... MLB&id=331

Can anyone confirm?

Post #10 » by **nykgeneralmanager** » Tue Sep 4, 2007 5:57 pm

Yup, 3 years on the rookie contract (2006-2008) then 3 years of arbitration eligibility (2009-2011)

34Celtic · Post #11 » by **34Celtic** » Tue Sep 4, 2007 6:07 pm

What about 2005?

Post #12 » by **nykgeneralmanager** » Tue Sep 4, 2007 7:20 pm

Someone could correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the player needs 3 full years of ML service before they become arbitration eligible. Since 2005 was not a full season for Wang, he needs ALL of 2006, ALL of 2007, and some of 2008 to reach the 3 years of service. So that's why he won't be arbitration eligible until after 2008.

34Celtic · Post #13 » by **34Celtic** » Tue Sep 4, 2007 8:00 pm

Gotcha

cmaff051 · Post #14 » by **cmaff051** » Tue Sep 4, 2007 9:09 pm

Same thing for Robbie too, I believe.

risktaker91 · Post #15 » by **risktaker91** » Wed Sep 5, 2007 3:11 am

After they go through the years of arbitration, how much do you think Cano and Wang will make, if they continue to be as good as they are.

cmaff051 · Post #16 » by **cmaff051** » Wed Sep 5, 2007 3:17 am

risktaker91 wrote:After they go through the years of arbitration, how much do you think Cano and Wang will make, if they continue to be as good as they are.

Well, it's difficult to tell where the market will be in a few years and if Cano and Wang will keep up this level of performance, but assuming that both of them do, I think Wang will get a Bonderman type deal (4/38) and Cano might get something around that too. If Cano starts hitting for more power, he may even command more.

It's a good thing we have them for cheap for a few more years though... cheap relative to their elite performances that is.

JohnnyK · Post #17 » by **JohnnyK** » Wed Sep 5, 2007 11:59 am

cmaff051 wrote:Well, it's difficult to tell where the market will be in a few years and if Cano and Wang will keep up this level of performance, but assuming that both of them do, I think Wang will get a Bonderman type deal (4/38)

Eh?

Should Wang reach free agency, he'll get a lot more than 9.5 per year. Just look at what pitchers got last year, and how Wang compares to them.
Sure, he is not your typical strike-out ace, but he'd probably be a top 3 FA should he get there.

Bondermann got 4/38 because he still had arbitration years left but got locked up early with an extension.

34Celtic · Post #18 » by **34Celtic** » Wed Sep 5, 2007 12:10 pm

Wang would probably get somewhere 10-15 million per.

Jitpal · Post #19 » by **Jitpal** » Wed Sep 5, 2007 1:10 pm

34Celtic wrote:Wang would probably get somewhere 10-15 million per.

Maybe during arbitration. Look at Zito he got $18 million a year. Granted he is overpaid but Wang is better than him. Wang has a better history(no arm issues), he has the whole country of Taiwan behind him(revenue), he would actually be successful in a hitter's ballpark(big plus for those teams), he goes deep into games and he's young. All of those things go into it. If you base it on that scale, plus the fact that he leads the AL in wins the past few year, one has to wonder if there isn't some team waiting to give him 22-25 million. Not saying it is us but if Meche can get $11 a year and Zito can get $18 a year, then Wang is absolutely worth more than $20 a year. -Jitpal

34Celtic · Post #20 » by **34Celtic** » Wed Sep 5, 2007 1:24 pm

There is NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WAY CHIEN MING WANG will get over 20 million a year. Zito was a big name with Scott Boras as an agent, and yeah Wang may be better, but Zito has a better history.

Zito got that money because he was the best pitcher on the market. Wang may end up getting the same, and depending on who else hits the market around that time he may get less. Santana will get 22-25 million, Peavy may end up with 15-20.

Its all based on the market, the best players on the market get the most money, but rarely breaking the bank such as Arod did. Its like with Carlos Lee and Soriano last year, they were the two top hitters available and everything else was based off of them. Contracts are rarely based off what happens in previous years