Game #19: DUBS (9-10) @ LAC (8-10) SAT 12/2—1 PM

[esqtvd]

The PG hate doesn't come from the fact that he's not scoring or not shooting well or rebounding etc. It's his decisions with the ball. His TOs. They come at the worst time and are momentum killing.

The point being made is that when Kawhi does it--and he had a couple of groaner possessions in crunch time in THIS game--he gets a pass.

And nobody's saying Kawhi isn't the better player. Kawhi's assists-to turnovers [less of both] ratio is better than PG's, but not by all that much, and KL is not tasked with setting up the O anywhere as often as PG. PG is the one stepping up and taking the responsibility.

Fans have their favorites, and they have their scapegoats. This guy--Mr. June in 2021--was chased out of town.

Read on Twitter

[NickP]

The PG hate doesn't come from the fact that he's not scoring or not shooting well or rebounding etc. It's his decisions with the ball. His TOs. They come at the worst time and are momentum killing.

The point being made is that when Kawhi does it--and he had a couple of groaner possessions in crunch time in THIS game--he gets a pass.

And nobody's saying Kawhi isn't the better player. Kawhi's assists-to turnovers [less of both] ratio is better than PG's, but not by all that much, and KL is not tasked with setting up the O anywhere as often as PG. PG is the one stepping up and taking the responsibility.

Fans have their favorites, and they have their scapegoats. This guy--Mr. June in 2021--was chased out of town.

Read on Twitter

Don't know why you're bringing Kawhi in your reply. The point was about PG and his bone headed decisions with the ball. Look it's not PG's fault that in spite of having legit ball handlers on this team that Ty Lue puts the ball in his hands as a playmaker.

[esqtvd]

The PG hate doesn't come from the fact that he's not scoring or not shooting well or rebounding etc. It's his decisions with the ball. His TOs. They come at the worst time and are momentum killing.

The point being made is that when Kawhi does it--and he had a couple of groaner possessions in crunch time in THIS game--he gets a pass.

And nobody's saying Kawhi isn't the better player. Kawhi's assists-to turnovers [less of both] ratio is better than PG's, but not by all that much, and KL is not tasked with setting up the O anywhere as often as PG. PG is the one stepping up and taking the responsibility.

Fans have their favorites, and they have their scapegoats. This guy--Mr. June in 2021--was chased out of town.

Read on Twitter

Don't know why you're bringing Kawhi in your reply. The point was about PG and his bone headed decisions with the ball. Look it's not PG's fault that in spite of having legit ball handlers on this team that Ty Lue puts the ball in his hands as a playmaker.

I saw Kawhi make similar bonehead plays down the stretch in this win. They go unnoticed; PG's are magnified, although their stats aren't that far apart and PG has much greater responsibility. If T-Mann could play point guard and hit the 3 we wouldn't be having this discussion.

We don't have a CP3-type point guard; Harden isn't one either--he's always been a Turnover City, he just piles up assists by dishing off as a dual-threat to drive or kick. Same with Russ. It's not on the coach: There IS no primary ballhandler. PG took the pass from Russ [great rebound], brought the ball up, STEPPED UP and won the damn game.

Read on Twitter

_________________

ADD: case closed

Read on Twitter

[Captain Ballmer]

Looks like Dubs assembled a miserable team that more expensive than ours. They are constantly damaging their rookies' confidence in the game with the way they want to play... Just trade those picks for ready players then.

[esqtvd]

Looks like Dubs assembled a miserable team that more expensive than ours. They are constantly damaging their rookies' confidence in the game with the way they want to play... Just trade those picks for ready players then.

So it goes.

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

[clipperlover]

The PG hate doesn't come from the fact that he's not scoring or not shooting well or rebounding etc. It's his decisions with the ball. His TOs. They come at the worst time and are momentum killing.

Fans have their favorites, and they have their scapegoats. This guy--Mr. June in 2021--was chased out of town.

Read on Twitter

Reggie is not a starter which is what the problem was in L.A. He wasn't going to accept being a bench player here.

Nuggets are 14-7 on the season. They are 7-6 with Reggie starting. They are 5-1 when he scores 20 or more in those starts and is averaging 15 shot attempts in those game. Is he going to be the 70+% shooting Reggie that he was against SA, us and Phoenix or the sub 35% shooter he was against Orlando and Houston? He is a - on the +/- scale.

You have always preached +/- and regress to the mean. Reggie isn't going to keep up this torrid shooting pace, so they will ride him while he is hot, but he will be back to the bench when Murray is back.

[esqtvd]

The PG hate doesn't come from the fact that he's not scoring or not shooting well or rebounding etc. It's his decisions with the ball. His TOs. They come at the worst time and are momentum killing.

Fans have their favorites, and they have their scapegoats. This guy--Mr. June in 2021--was chased out of town.

Read on Twitter

Reggie is not a starter which is what the problem was in L.A. He wasn't going to accept being a bench player here.

Nuggets are 14-7 on the season. They are 7-6 with Reggie starting. They are 5-1 when he scores 20 or more in those starts and is averaging 15 shot attempts in those game. Is he going to be the 70+% shooting Reggie that he was against SA, us and Phoenix or the sub 35% shooter he was against Orlando and Houston? He is a - on the +/- scale.

You have always preached +/- and regress to the mean. Reggie isn't going to keep up this torrid shooting pace, so they will ride him while he is hot, but he will be back to the bench when Murray is back.

It's an object lesson in the fickleness and fecklessness of fans--particularly the Clipper internet. Let's review:

Reggie came off the scrap heap--bought out by the worst franchise in the league [Detroit] and became a hero for us. He played hard, he played hurt, and in the 2021 playoffs he played incredible. And in 2023, after playing hurt for months, it took him half a week to accept his demotion and his numbers came back up. [He lost his job to fan favorite T-Mann, who although he helped the plus/minus considerably, could NOT play the point. Paul George had to, and that's why he begged to sign Russell Westbrook.]

Reggie was a combo guard in a PG's body and was never a fit for starting at the 1 for us, especially after age 30. But he stepped up and accepted the responsibility. Just like Paul George did and does, in being the combo primary/secondary ballhandler.

And that's the moral of the story here: When somebody steps up outside their natural skills and ability--and desire to play it--to fill a role where the team has a hole, they should be praised for it, not douched.

As for Reggie, all those on the Clipper internet [IOW Twitter] who said Reggie was "baked" just got proved they know nothing. Rubbing their noses in it.

[CL--You are of course correct that Reggie in time will be demoted to the second team. And he was bounced out of the playoff rotation in the Nuggets' title run. So he might be again. I was surprised Denver re-signed him at all. But Reggie did not deserve to be jeered out of LA by so-called "Clippers fans." The joke is on them. Obviously the Nuggets org saw something they can't.]

[TrueLAfan]

A couple of things:

First, I absolutely think Reggie understood and understands his role as a high rotation player, not a starter. We rode him hard in 2022 because we needed to; he responded by playing nearly 2400 minutes. Dude had knee injuries in Detroit. He gave it everything he had in 2022. Were the results always pretty, or even satisfactory? No. Should he have had been put in that position? Absolutely not. The fact that he tried is a testament to his desire to do what was necessary. He should be respected for that; he’ll always have mine. You have to see the forest, not the trees.

Same thing with PG. I don’t want to argue with people, but Paul George just came off a game where he had 25-6-6 on 17 shots, had only one turnover, and scored 6 in the final six minutes including the game winner. And people are complaining about “lazy careless passes” and “almost” throwing a pass away. I mean, maybe you’re overstating it a bit or focusing on the wrong thing. Trees. Forest.

[esqtvd]

wow

I mean I'd like to see the team leader walking his guys off the floor with hugs and pats on the butt

but a smile and excited body language...

I'll take it

Read on Twitter

[esqtvd]

"once you stop shooting it's hard to start again"

Read on Twitter