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Otis Driftwood wrote:The NFL is a Quarterback-driven league...
- Rick Gosselin

And yet - Danny White held most of the Cowboys passing records until Aikman and Romo cleaned them out... and there is that little matter of three consecutive NFC Championship games, the great comeback against the Falcons, some classic matchups against some of the top teams in the league... and for those who say Roger would have won those games, go back and watch the 1976 and 1979 games against the Rams. He didn't win them all, kids.
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bluejerseyjinx wrote:To me the three most depressing days I ever had as a Cowboy fan was when Roger Staubach retired, the day Clint Murchinson sold the team and when they let Landry go. When Landry was let go it felt like my whole young and growing up era came to an end. For 29 years and the whole time I was a Cowboy fan growing up, etc., he was always there. The man who made the Cowboys into America's Team. I miss that man so much.

Mr B wrote:

bluejerseyjinx wrote:To me the three most depressing days I ever had as a Cowboy fan was when Roger Staubach retired, the day Clint Murchinson sold the team and when they let Landry go. When Landry was let go it felt like my whole young and growing up era came to an end. For 29 years and the whole time I was a Cowboy fan growing up, etc., he was always there. The man who made the Cowboys into America's Team. I miss that man so much.

I took a tour of the Cowboys practice facility The Star this weekend and took a picture of this photo on the wall.

bluejerseyjinx wrote:To me the three most depressing days I ever had as a Cowboy fan was when Roger Staubach retired, the day Clint Murchinson sold the team and when they let Landry go. When Landry was let go it felt like my whole young and growing up era came to an end. For 29 years and the whole time I was a Cowboy fan growing up, etc., he was always there. The man who made the Cowboys into America's Team. I miss that man so much.

Otis Driftwood wrote:

bluejerseyjinx wrote:To me the three most depressing days I ever had as a Cowboy fan was when Roger Staubach retired, the day Clint Murchinson sold the team and when they let Landry go. When Landry was let go it felt like my whole young and growing up era came to an end. For 29 years and the whole time I was a Cowboy fan growing up, etc., he was always there. The man who made the Cowboys into America's Team. I miss that man so much.

I've kept select Dallas Morning News editions over the years. Still have the February 13, 2000 edition in mint condition.

Otis Driftwood wrote:

bluejerseyjinx wrote:To me the three most depressing days I ever had as a Cowboy fan was when Roger Staubach retired, the day Clint Murchinson sold the team and when they let Landry go. When Landry was let go it felt like my whole young and growing up era came to an end. For 29 years and the whole time I was a Cowboy fan growing up, etc., he was always there. The man who made the Cowboys into America's Team. I miss that man so much.

I've kept select Dallas Morning News editions over the years. Still have the February 13, 2000 edition in mint condition.

The Sparest wrote:

Otis Driftwood wrote:

bluejerseyjinx wrote:To me the three most depressing days I ever had as a Cowboy fan was when Roger Staubach retired, the day Clint Murchinson sold the team and when they let Landry go. When Landry was let go it felt like my whole young and growing up era came to an end. For 29 years and the whole time I was a Cowboy fan growing up, etc., he was always there. The man who made the Cowboys into America's Team. I miss that man so much.

I've kept select Dallas Morning News editions over the years. Still have the February 13, 2000 edition in mint condition.

I was driving when I heard the news on the radio. I had to pull over and cry for a while. My father died when I was 7, and my strongest memories of him are of us sitting on the couch watching the Cowboys.

Otis Driftwood wrote:As far as Brandt... he can pay for a ticket and go to the Hall of Fame. That's the only way he's getting in.

Otis Driftwood wrote:Neither Nate nor Bates were drafted by the NFL. Both were drafted by the USFL. Bates signed with Dallas as an undrafted FA. Nate signed with the Deadskins and was cut. Played 2 seasons in the USFL before coming to Dallas.

bluejerseyjinx wrote:

Otis Driftwood wrote:Neither Nate nor Bates were drafted by the NFL. Both were drafted by the USFL. Bates signed with Dallas as an undrafted FA. Nate signed with the Deadskins and was cut. Played 2 seasons in the USFL before coming to Dallas.

Thanks for helping me out there. I was just going off on memory without looking anything up. So if that's the case, the only one that does come to mind now is probably Hershall Walkers. I mean nothing really sticks out to me at all till the end of the decade when we starting drafting the likes of Aikman, Smith and Irvin. Every time I go back and explore the Gil Brandt performance, it seems to be worse than I thought before. He really did a number with the demise of Landry and the Cowboys. Looking back now, it was the beginning of the end in so many ways.

Otis Driftwood wrote:

bluejerseyjinx wrote:

Otis Driftwood wrote:Neither Nate nor Bates were drafted by the NFL. Both were drafted by the USFL. Bates signed with Dallas as an undrafted FA. Nate signed with the Deadskins and was cut. Played 2 seasons in the USFL before coming to Dallas.

Thanks for helping me out there. I was just going off on memory without looking anything up. So if that's the case, the only one that does come to mind now is probably Hershall Walkers. I mean nothing really sticks out to me at all till the end of the decade when we starting drafting the likes of Aikman, Smith and Irvin. Every time I go back and explore the Gil Brandt performance, it seems to be worse than I thought before. He really did a number with the demise of Landry and the Cowboys. Looking back now, it was the beginning of the end in so many ways.

Randy Galloway wrote an article in 1987 titled “What’s wrong with the Cowboys? He listed the drafts from 1981 through 1986. That was the column.

Sometime, go look at those drafts. Those drafts were why Tom Landry lost his job. They were pathetic.


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Otis Driftwood wrote:

bluejerseyjinx wrote:

Otis Driftwood wrote:Neither Nate nor Bates were drafted by the NFL. Both were drafted by the USFL. Bates signed with Dallas as an undrafted FA. Nate signed with the Deadskins and was cut. Played 2 seasons in the USFL before coming to Dallas.

Thanks for helping me out there. I was just going off on memory without looking anything up. So if that's the case, the only one that does come to mind now is probably Hershall Walkers. I mean nothing really sticks out to me at all till the end of the decade when we starting drafting the likes of Aikman, Smith and Irvin. Every time I go back and explore the Gil Brandt performance, it seems to be worse than I thought before. He really did a number with the demise of Landry and the Cowboys. Looking back now, it was the beginning of the end in so many ways.

Randy Galloway wrote an article in 1987 titled “What’s wrong with the Cowboys? He listed the drafts from 1981 through 1986. That was the column.

Sometime, go look at those drafts. Those drafts were why Tom Landry lost his job. They were pathetic.


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Otis Driftwood wrote:And - finally. Gil Brandt.

Every time I hear someone refer to Gil Brandt as "legendary Scout" I want to puke. I've held him responsible for the demise of the 80's Cowboys for a long, long time. Once the rest of the league caught up with him and started scouting small colleges, he ended up exposed for his lack of deep scouting ability. I never forgave him for Rod Hill.

The best part of when Jerry took over was how Brandt was let go. They just locked him out of his office. He showed up to Valley Ranch and couldn't get into his office. Then Security escorted him off of the property. Even Schramm didn't talk to him.

He's made a nice living off of his 60's and 70's success with the Cowboys on NFL.com and various fantasy football enterprises. But - my $0.02 is this...

He's a fraud. Those 80's drafts confirm it as far as I'm concerned.