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Playoff Watch 2007

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Post#21 » by NeedsMoreCheese » Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:21 pm

Gilbert0Arenas wrote:With the way tiebreaker rules are set up, its entirely possible that we might even end up as the 5th seed.

These are the remaining three games for the New York Giants:

vs. Washington
at Buffalo
vs. New England

With the way they have been playing over the past three weeks, its entirely possible that they can lose each of these games.

In this scenerio, if we manage to win out, we get the fifth wildcard spot
and most likely matchup against the Buccaneers in the first round and if further, the Cowboys in the 2nd unless the sixth playoff team wins its game, then we face the Packers.


Actually it really depends on how your next 3 opponents do
(Breakdown of ties)
**Edit** Actually it doesnt matter nevermind but i did the work so im just gonna leave it here so you guys can see how it breaks down**

Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
So that would be a tie

Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
That would be tied at 3-3 each

Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
That would be tied at 6-4 each

Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
Tied at 7-5 each

Strength of victory. (Winning percentage of the teams you BEAT)
25 - 53 (.320) Redskins
36 - 81 (.307) Giants

Its amazing you have to go all the way to the 5th tiebreaker to figure it out.

Actually you can add 3 to the Giants number because they have one win against the skins and under this scenario the Skins add those wins (Note we've already added the Skins current record here since the Giants win happened and im doing this in order)
On the Same note add 9-7 to the Skins numbers because the Giants would lose 3 more and the Skins will have beat them.

34-60 (.362)
39-81 (.325)

So now the Skins would still have the tiebreaker.

Lets add in the current numbers of wins and losses (plus 1 loss to each, ) that the teams the redskins will beat other than the Giants which we already added (under this scenario) to their number.

53-69 (.434)
39-81 (.325)

Now the Skins are ahead of them by a wide margin.
There are a couple more scenarios depending on the other 4 combined games the Vikings and Cowboys play. Ill just put all 5 scenarios here.

57-69 (.452) 0 losses
56-70 (.444) 1 loss
55-71 (.437) 2 losses
54-72 (.429) 3 losses
53-73 (.420) 4 losses



Ah damnit i just remembered that if the Vikings win 2 more under this scenario it changes to a 3 way tie and the tiebreakers are slightly different.

Actually on second thought that only goes to 1 tiebreaker so its not bad
Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
So the Giants would be 1-2, the Vikings 1-1 and the Skins 2-1
Meaning the Redskins win that tiebreaker and thus would leave the Vikings and Giants in their own tiebreaker.

However theres more scenarios (one, 2 or 3 of Detroit, New Orleans, Minnesota (win 2), and Arizona win out)
*Note NO and AZ play each other this week so only one could win out

Saints, Lions, Vikings win out (or just Saints and Lions
Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.
Which means, do the division tiebreaker to eliminate teams from the same division first.

The Lions, Redskins and Saints are remaining then

Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
So that does us no good since no one played both of the other 2
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
Lions 5-7, Saints 8-4, Skins 7-5
So the Saints win that and 5th seed

Cardinals, Vikings and Lions (or just Cardinals and Lions)
Skins win this because they beat the Lions and Cardinals

Cardinals and Vikings
Skins win because they beat both of these two as well

Saints and Vikings
Head to Head doesnt work here
Conference record
Saints 8-4, Vikings 6-6, Skins 7-5
So just like the other Saints scenario they win here

Just one of Vikings, Lions or Cardinals win
Redskins beat all three so they have the tiebreaker over each in Head to Head meaning they win

Saints win
It goes to conference record which goes to the Saints



So basically you need a Saints Loss, and the Giants to lose all their games and you to win out, and then you have the 5 seed.

:D

I hope i didnt miss anything but if i did feel free to ask.
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Post#22 » by likwitdesi » Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:24 am

It won't be the worst thing in the world if the Vikes made the playoffs. They could win the NFC. Number one run game in the NFL and those Williams boys are just impossible to run on
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Post#23 » by Rafael122 » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:52 am

Updated the standings.

New Orleans holds the tiebreaker over us so far.

Scenarios:

Week 15: Chicago def. Minnesota

Saints move into 6th place.

Week 16: Philadelphia def. New Orleans
Week 16: Washington def. Minnesota

Washington moves into 6th place. Minnesota goes 7-8, while the Saints are 7-8, and Redskins are 8-7.

Week 17: Chicago def. New Orleans
Week 17: Denver def. Minnesota
Week 17: Washington def. Dallas

Dallas could be resting their starters by this point, which would be good for us for obvious reasons.
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Post#24 » by Wizards2Lottery » Tue Dec 18, 2007 4:33 pm

Best case scenerio for next week:

Philly defeats New Orleans
Washington defeats Minnisotta

but if New Orleans defeats Philly but we defeat Minnisotta then:

Buffalo defeats New York
Washington defeats Minnosotta

this way if Washington defeats Dallas and New Orleans defeats Chicago in week 17, New York faces playoff elimination against the Patriots.

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Post#25 » by ZonkertheBrainless » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:51 pm

I don't believe the Giants are going to lose their last two games. What happens if they lose one, do we still have a chance to get in?
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