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MEM @ LAL — game 3

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Re: MEM @ LAL — game 3 

Post#21 » by Showtime:Part2 » Sun Apr 23, 2023 1:37 pm

stan francisco wrote:A thought to ponder is that the coach also sees the shortcomings we see, (imagine that, lol) but let’s them all get a fair chance to fix it. He’s a players’ coach. I like that about him.

But like everyone else I’d like to see Ham tighten it up to a rotation of 10-11 players. It’s that time! Beasley has to ride the pine. D Lo gets too much pivotal game time as is.

I’d make a clear adjustment before next game, definitely before SAC / GSW. They will exploit our poor perimeter defense all the way to a sweep if we let them.


You rmr how Vogel in 2020 basically benched Dwight against Houston all series then played him a ton against nuggets to matchup w joker. Seems like a smart easy adjustment right? This muppet would NEVER think to do it. We are playing against one of the best teams at scoring in the paint and he refuses to play a backup center and every time that happens we give away a lead. Beasley needs to never see a minute in lakers uniform again. It’s clear to everyone except ham. Dlo should be pulled for Schroeder if he’s going to do bone headed **** like he did last night
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Post#22 » by Jedi32 » Sun Apr 23, 2023 2:53 pm

It was nice to see the guys have a wire to wire win. Just gotta stay focused. Convincing win, but there's some things we still need to tighten up.
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Post#23 » by jehosafats » Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:53 pm

Memphis was held to just 9 points in the first quarter but didn't score less than 25 for the last 3 quarters. By contrast, LAL had two quarters scoring less than 25. Something is up with that. Ham's rotations are sometimes tougher than they need to be. You can have DLo playing okay and leave him in for 31 mins, but that comes with the way he plays (excessive dribbling, late reads, and so on). You could probably get more out of your offense if those minutes were restricted. He played Troy Brown Jr much longer than was needed too.
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Re: MEM @ LAL — game 3 

Post#24 » by TylersLakers » Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:17 pm

jehosafats wrote:Memphis was held to just 9 points in the first quarter but didn't score less than 25 for the last 3 quarters. By contrast, LAL had two quarters scoring less than 25. Something is up with that. Ham's rotations are sometimes tougher than they need to be. You can have DLo playing okay and leave him in for 31 mins, but that comes with the way he plays (excessive dribbling, late reads, and so on). You could probably get more out of your offense if those minutes were restricted. He played Troy Brown Jr much longer than was needed too.


Lakers have to make some shots. 7 3PT makes last night. 7 makes in Game 2.

I'm worried about LeBron. He's asking for these switches onto Tillman and others and he's (eventually) getting them but struggling to get to the basket. He's either settling or being forced to settle for these sequences where he holds onto the ball and dribbles for 6-8 seconds and then shoots an out of rhythm jumper. He doesn't have that same ability that he had in 2020 or 2021 to get a switch and beat guys off the dribble to get to the basket. We either need to get the ball to D-Lo or Reaves, run pick and roll with AD, and LeBron can be a cutter/off ball player where the Lakers can create an advantage for him. Wasting the entire possession running a screen roll with D-Lo to get a switch is killing these possessions.

They can also set off-ball screens and get him switches in the post and use him as post-up player.
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Re: MEM @ LAL — game 3 

Post#25 » by jehosafats » Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:42 pm

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jehosafats wrote:Memphis was held to just 9 points in the first quarter but didn't score less than 25 for the last 3 quarters. By contrast, LAL had two quarters scoring less than 25. Something is up with that. Ham's rotations are sometimes tougher than they need to be. You can have DLo playing okay and leave him in for 31 mins, but that comes with the way he plays (excessive dribbling, late reads, and so on). You could probably get more out of your offense if those minutes were restricted. He played Troy Brown Jr much longer than was needed too.


Lakers have to make some shots. 7 3PT makes last night. 7 makes in Game 2.

I'm worried about LeBron. He's asking for these switches onto Tillman and others and he's (eventually) getting them but struggling to get to the basket. He's either settling or being forced to settle for these sequences where he holds onto the ball and dribbles for 6-8 seconds and then shoots an out of rhythm jumper. He doesn't have that same ability that he had in 2020 or 2021 to get a switch and beat guys off the dribble to get to the basket. We either need to get the ball to D-Lo or Reaves, run pick and roll with AD, and LeBron can be a cutter/off ball player where the Lakers can create an advantage for him. Wasting the entire possession running a screen roll with D-Lo to get a switch is killing these possessions.

They can also set off-ball screens and get him switches in the post and use him as post-up player.

Totally agree. Lebron is gumming up the works himself when he gets the switches he wants, faces up, dribbles for 10 seconds, then either takes an errant shot or gives it up, because he can't blow by defenders like he used to. If they insist on playing this way, he should be making his move just as soon as he gets the ball so the defender can't get set, but even then most defenders are quick enough to manage it. It pains me to say it, but he could probably learn a lot from Kawhi, who never relied on blowing by defenders. His foot work in space is worthy of study. Or, like you said, make him more of a cutter, which they could definitely use anyway.
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Post#26 » by Beethoven » Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:35 pm

Nice game.
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Post#27 » by Pythagoras » Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:28 pm

The Lakers have been getting killed when AD hasn’t been on the floor in this series. Vanderbilt and Beasley shouldn’t be getting hardly any minutes in this series. Rui should be getting more and Bamba should be playing.
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Re: MEM @ LAL — game 3 

Post#28 » by stan francisco » Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:02 pm

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stan francisco wrote:A thought to ponder is that the coach also sees the shortcomings we see, (imagine that, lol) but let’s them all get a fair chance to fix it. He’s a players’ coach. I like that about him.

But like everyone else I’d like to see Ham tighten it up to a rotation of 10-11 players. It’s that time! Beasley has to ride the pine. D Lo gets too much pivotal game time as is.

I’d make a clear adjustment before next game, definitely before SAC / GSW. They will exploit our poor perimeter defense all the way to a sweep if we let them.


You rmr how Vogel in 2020 basically benched Dwight against Houston all series then played him a ton against nuggets to matchup w joker. Seems like a smart easy adjustment right? This muppet would NEVER think to do it. We are playing against one of the best teams at scoring in the paint and he refuses to play a backup center and every time that happens we give away a lead. Beasley needs to never see a minute in lakers uniform again. It’s clear to everyone except ham. Dlo should be pulled for Schroeder if he’s going to do bone headed **** like he did last night


Yes. This is why younger coaches should welcome a more seasoned coach as their assistant. But the young coaches are all too worried to lose their job to do so.

I love how Thibs pulled Randle out of the game. To your point, Ham would not sit AD no matter how bad he stunk it up.

It’s time to tighten up the rotations.
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Re: MEM @ LAL — game 3 

Post#29 » by Ballerhogger » Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:15 pm

Bench dlo for deniss . He had so many TOs carlees plays
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Re: MEM @ LAL — game 3 

Post#30 » by Ballerhogger » Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:16 pm

Pythagoras wrote:The Lakers have been getting killed when AD hasn’t been on the floor in this series. Vanderbilt and Beasley shouldn’t be getting hardly any minutes in this series. Rui should be getting more and Bamba should be playing.

Yup we need size when JJJ is in or when their guard bigs are in . I guess Bamba is game ready

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