What’s The Malik Beasley Trade This Offseason?

[DanishLakerFan]

I think the question needs to be asked at this point... Is Beasley really that bad, or is Ham just bad at things?

Beasley is solid. Over the last few years he's been among the very top in 3s made per minute. But he's a liability defensively and he's very much hit or miss. I mean, he either goes 1-8 from 3, or 6-12.

As for the offseason, i think other than keeping Reaves i think everything else is up in the air.

Could keep D'lo. Or flip him in a s/t for best player avaialble and then roll with Reaves and Schroeder at the PG.
Could keep Rui. But with Vando at just 5M for next season you cant overpay for Rui. Perhaps flip Beasley+17th for best available wing/big (Jerami Grant in a s/t?)
Could keep everyone if the price isn't too steep and simply flip Beasley+17th for Buddy?

[Doug_12]

Again, along with Beasley, Russ should in my humble view not be resigned because he plays contact free basketball and picks up cheap fouls just the same way he did several years ago. Beasley plays no real defense either. S&T for both? Add Bamba and we might get ourselves a starting grade two way PG…

You keep saying this crap but don’t actually provide any names.

D’Lo, Beasley and Bamba is like $55m worth of contract. Who’s this two way PG you’re signing for that? What’s the trade there? Because the team you trade with would be hard capped remember.

The only point guard S&T out there realistically is Kyrie or James Harden. Neither of which play any defence. Out of those 2 i’m taking Kyrie because you can trust him to score in the big moments.

I’m running the numbers now and we can probably just about afford it and stay under the projected $170m tax apron. But it depends on what Rui and Reaves want. I’m budgeting them at $13m on the cap next season.

The big issue is the LeBron contract to be honest. $47m against the cap. I love Bron but honestly, he can’t say it’s win at all costs when he’s taking $47m at 39 year old playing maybe 60 regular season games. If he had even taken $40m it would have given the team so much more room to breathe on any potential sign and trade.

But yeah, i’m trying the Kyrie trade. I like D’Lo but he isn’t built for the play offs. He’s a major reason we even made it to them, so thanks for that, but his below average defence means he gets hunted and he doesn’t make up for it by giving you 20 a night.

D’Lo and Beasley with the 2029 pick for Kyrie. You’d then need to waive Bamba, and give the MLE to Dennis or Troy, and then fill the rest of the team out with Vet mins.

PG - Kyrie Irving ($47m).
SG - Austin Reaves ($13m).
SF - Lebron James ($46.7m).
PF - Jarred Vanderbilt ($4.7m).
C - Anthony Davis ($40.6m).
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PG - Dennis Schroder ($MLE).
SG - $VETMIN (No Idea. Might need to promote Max).
SF - $VETMIN (Doubt TBJ takes another vet, so maybe Yuta Watanabe?)
PF - Rui Hachimura ($13m).
C - $VETMIN (Bamba after being waived? Thomas Bryant coming back maybe?)
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PG - $VETMIN (Aaron Holiday?)
SG - Max Christie ($1.8m).
SF - $VETMIN (Stanley Johnson?)
PF - $VETMIN (Wenyen Gabriel?)
C - $VETMIN (Tristan Thompson?)

Total - $167m.
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The third string being filled out by vet min guys is no issue. Having 3 as your #8/9/10 guy might be tough though so Rob would need to do a good job this off season. Not impossible though. He got Dennis, TBJ, and Thomas Bryant on vet mins this season.

There is the issue that the 1st rounder in the 2023 draft will take $3m on the cap so we’d be over the apron potentially, so if we sign Kyrie then we’ll need to trade that (attach it to Shaq Harrison rather than waiving his deal) along with the 2023 second round pick, and try get back as good a player as possible who makes $2m. There are a few good ones. Jaden Hardy or Isaiah Joe for example.

I wouldn't touch Kyrie even w/ a pole. He is going to get a huge contract, probably the last big one in his career and I have the feeling that he will just check out then.

He couldn't focus in front of his biggest chance to be part of a legacy Nets team w/ Harden and Durant and he barely put himself together for his contract year. Mentally unstable is an euphemistic term for his current state - I wouldn't like him anywhere near around this team.

I'd much rather target someone like VanVleet w/ DLo and the pick and then either keep Beasley or package him w/ Brown and a 2nd rounder for an under 30, all-around guard-wing combo. He shouldn't be this microwave scorer as Beas, just be an average defender w/ an okayish 3pt shot and some size to play both the 2 and the 3. Maybe if Brooks continues to play himself out of the Grizz rotation, he can be an s'n't target.

VanVleet/Schroeder/vet min
Reaves/Lonnie/Christie
James/Brooks
Vando/Hachimura
Davis/Bamba/vet min

If James keeps playing close to this level next year, that is still a top 4 team in the West.

[Showtime:Part2]

Lol Beasley is not getting brought back, not even for a trade. There is some serious delusion going on here. He’s at best a min player (26 and 32% from 3 in his last two playoff series) and most likely will be learning Chinese this summer. There is no way we pick up his option. 16 mill for a guy who is worse than Duncan Robinson is not a tradeable contract. It will cost us just to dump him. His shooting has been trending down all season (even right before he got dealt). He’s playing himself out of anything other than a min

[Vae Victus]

Lol Beasley is not getting brought back, not even for a trade. There is some serious delusion going on here. He’s at best a min player (26 and 32% from 3 in his last two playoff series) and most likely will be learning Chinese this summer. There is no way we pick up his option. 16 mill for a guy who is worse than Duncan Robinson is not a tradeable contract. It will cost us just to dump him. His shooting has been trending down all season (even right before he got dealt). He’s playing himself out of anything other than a min

Yup Malik Beasley has basically been exposed as a Lonnie Walker/Troy Brown Jr level of player. He would be lucky to get a TMLE 1 year deal at this point. Absolutely no way for the Lakers to activate his option, as one can find similar level players for vet mins.

I'm really disappointed at how bad Beasley has been and how Bamba hasnt been utilized at all due to injury. If these two were able to provide solid mins, woulda been huge in providing a spacing threat from the 5, and giving the offense even more spacing.

I see Lakers declining both Beasley and Bamba, and maybe try to resign them for the vet min so that they can rehab their value. Jeannie save a crapton on luxury taxes and she's gonna pay Reaves, Rui, and DLo, so there's just no way theyre gonna be retained.

[stan francisco]

Again, along with Beasley, Russ should in my humble view not be resigned because he plays contact free basketball and picks up cheap fouls just the same way he did several years ago. Beasley plays no real defense either. S&T for both? Add Bamba and we might get ourselves a starting grade two way PG…

You keep saying this crap but don’t actually provide any names.

D’Lo, Beasley and Bamba is like $55m worth of contract. Who’s this two way PG you’re signing for that? What’s the trade there? Because the team you trade with would be hard capped remember.

The only point guard S&T out there realistically is Kyrie or James Harden. Neither of which play any defence. Out of those 2 i’m taking Kyrie because you can trust him to score in the big moments.

I’m running the numbers now and we can probably just about afford it and stay under the projected $170m tax apron. But it depends on what Rui and Reaves want. I’m budgeting them at $13m on the cap next season.

The big issue is the LeBron contract to be honest. $47m against the cap. I love Bron but honestly, he can’t say it’s win at all costs when he’s taking $47m at 39 year old playing maybe 60 regular season games. If he had even taken $40m it would have given the team so much more room to breathe on any potential sign and trade.

But yeah, i’m trying the Kyrie trade. I like D’Lo but he isn’t built for the play offs. He’s a major reason we even made it to them, so thanks for that, but his below average defence means he gets hunted and he doesn’t make up for it by giving you 20 a night.

D’Lo and Beasley with the 2029 pick for Kyrie. You’d then need to waive Bamba, and give the MLE to Dennis or Troy, and then fill the rest of the team out with Vet mins.

PG - Kyrie Irving ($47m).
SG - Austin Reaves ($13m).
SF - Lebron James ($46.7m).
PF - Jarred Vanderbilt ($4.7m).
C - Anthony Davis ($40.6m).
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PG - Dennis Schroder ($MLE).
SG - $VETMIN (No Idea. Might need to promote Max).
SF - $VETMIN (Doubt TBJ takes another vet, so maybe Yuta Watanabe?)
PF - Rui Hachimura ($13m).
C - $VETMIN (Bamba after being waived? Thomas Bryant coming back maybe?)
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PG - $VETMIN (Aaron Holiday?)
SG - Max Christie ($1.8m).
SF - $VETMIN (Stanley Johnson?)
PF - $VETMIN (Wenyen Gabriel?)
C - $VETMIN (Tristan Thompson?)

Total - $167m.
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The third string being filled out by vet min guys is no issue. Having 3 as your #8/9/10 guy might be tough though so Rob would need to do a good job this off season. Not impossible though. He got Dennis, TBJ, and Thomas Bryant on vet mins this season.

There is the issue that the 1st rounder in the 2023 draft will take $3m on the cap so we’d be over the apron potentially, so if we sign Kyrie then we’ll need to trade that (attach it to Shaq Harrison rather than waiving his deal) along with the 2023 second round pick, and try get back as good a player as possible who makes $2m. There are a few good ones. Jaden Hardy or Isaiah Joe for example.

I wouldn't touch Kyrie even w/ a pole. He is going to get a huge contract, probably the last big one in his career and I have the feeling that he will just check out then.

He couldn't focus in front of his biggest chance to be part of a legacy Nets team w/ Harden and Durant and he barely put himself together for his contract year. Mentally unstable is an euphemistic term for his current state - I wouldn't like him anywhere near around this team.

I'd much rather target someone like VanVleet w/ DLo and the pick and then either keep Beasley or package him w/ Brown and a 2nd rounder for an under 30, all-around guard-wing combo. He shouldn't be this microwave scorer as Beas, just be an average defender w/ an okayish 3pt shot and some size to play both the 2 and the 3. Maybe if Brooks continues to play himself out of the Grizz rotation, he can be an s'n't target.

VanVleet/Schroeder/vet min
Reaves/Lonnie/Christie
James/Brooks
Vando/Hachimura
Davis/Bamba/vet min

If James keeps playing close to this level next year, that is still a top 4 team in the West.

This.

I’d try for a big in return for Brown and Beasley.

I like both Lonnie and Christie, too. Both have show strong potential. Lonnie is very explosive. Christie is often error free in the decision department.

[DanishLakerFan]

Lol Beasley is not getting brought back, not even for a trade. There is some serious delusion going on here. He’s at best a min player (26 and 32% from 3 in his last two playoff series) and most likely will be learning Chinese this summer. There is no way we pick up his option. 16 mill for a guy who is worse than Duncan Robinson is not a tradeable contract. It will cost us just to dump him. His shooting has been trending down all season (even right before he got dealt). He’s playing himself out of anything other than a min

In the end it will be a question of money.

They have to keep Reaves as the main priority and as i understand it, there is a limit to what they can offer, but at the same time they can match other offers.

Since Vando is locked in on a bargain deal i think the second priority has to be to re-sign DLo (using bird rights) and after that Rui (RFA). Their market price will determine what happens to Beasley and if one of them is too pricey, they might find a replacement using Beasley’s salary.

[DNP-Old]

MIA: out - Robinson and #18; in - Beasley

LAL: out - Beasley and #17; in - Caruso

CHI: out - Caruso; in - Robinson, #17 and #18

[TylersLakers]

We need either a big wing or a big guard.

- Alex Caruso (hard for 4 hours, calling a doctor)
- Josh Hart (excited but after one good session, I'm back to normal)
- Dorian Finney Smith (I'm aroused)
- Buddy Hield (Starting to get off the couch)

Those would be my top 4 targets. Take the 1st round pick and Beasley + Christie and go after one of those guys.

[TylersLakers]

I wish I didn't have to see Kyrie Irving's name on any of the boards anymore.

[Jody Smokz]

A mid 1st rounder for a bench role player?

MIA: out - Robinson and #18; in - Beasley

LAL: out - Beasley and #17; in - Caruso

CHI: out - Caruso; in - Robinson, #17 and #18

[DNP-Old]

A mid 1st rounder for a bench role player?

MIA: out - Robinson and #18; in - Beasley

LAL: out - Beasley and #17; in - Caruso

CHI: out - Caruso; in - Robinson, #17 and #18

The role player is a known commodity that helps immediately. The rookie is potential that is at least two years away from helping.

[Jody Smokz]

These Caruso back to LA trades are rooted in nostalgia. How does Caruso fit in LA at this juncture, if we consider Reaves and DLo locks to return? They also have Vanderbilt on the roster another year. Caruso and Vando cannot play on the floor together. So you lose a lot of lineup versatility. You are also overpaying with a mid 1st rounder for a BENCH player.

I like Caruso just as much as other LA and CHI fans but he's still a bench player. Sure he's an elite defensive specialist but the Lakers already have one that provides better rebounding and lineup versatility with AD/Bron on the floor. At some pint you are just piling talent together and not getting the benefits. Come playoff time someone in this group isn't providing value.

A mid 1st rounder for a bench role player?

MIA: out - Robinson and #18; in - Beasley

LAL: out - Beasley and #17; in - Caruso

CHI: out - Caruso; in - Robinson, #17 and #18

The role player is a known commodity that helps immediately. The rookie is potential that is at least two years away from helping.

[DNP-Old]

These Caruso back to LA trades are rooted in nostalgia. How does Caruso fit in LA at this juncture, if we consider Reaves and DLo locks to return? They also have Vanderbilt on the roster another year. Caruso and Vando cannot play on the floor together. So you lose a lot of lineup versatility. You are also overpaying with a mid 1st rounder for a BENCH player.

I like Caruso just as much as other LA and CHI fans but he's still a bench player. Sure he's an elite defensive specialist but the Lakers already have one that provides better rebounding and lineup versatility with AD/Bron on the floor. At some pint you are just piling talent together and not getting the benefits. Come playoff time someone in this group isn't providing value.

A mid 1st rounder for a bench role player?

The role player is a known commodity that helps immediately. The rookie is potential that is at least two years away from helping.

I disagree.

[cheese318]

I would bring back everyone and see what the market is for Beasley. He's on the books for 16.5M and we'd have the 2023 FRP as well as two more first rounders to add in a trade. As good as he is of a shooter i think there are other solid options out there.

A few examples:
Beasley and 2023 FRP to Indy for Buddy Hield. Buddy would play well next to either of Reaves and D-LO.
Beasley and 2023 FRP + to Portland for Jerami Grant (s/t).
Beasley and 2023 FRP + 2 future FRPs for OG Anunoby.

OG Anunoby would be the one of those three I would want. The other two I could do with our and just keep the picks and see what Beasley has to offer. OG would be so perfect next to LBJ/AD. LBJ has never had a lockdown defender like that next to him. Klay was such an unsung hero for GSW run early on because his defense was so key when Steph was a poor to mediocre defender early on. MJ had the of the best defenders to play game in Pippen next to him. I also believe OG has a level of offense he hasn’t be able to show yet. Not even sure that would be enough but with a player option he’s now considered a rental because he’s definitely opting out for a big deal. It LAL can trade for him and negotiate an extension that’s a no brainer. Reaves, DLo, OG, Rui, LBJ, AD, Vando. Also have Christie as your next Reaves on the come up hopefully. Curious how much Rui might ask for now if he continues his hot playoff run.

[zimpy27]

Beasley+#17 for FVV(opt in)
OR
Beasley+Christie for GTJ(opt in)

[DanishLakerFan]

Beasley+#17 for FVV(opt in)
OR
Beasley+Christie for GTJ(opt in)

FVV would be nice. Not much of a fan of GTJ.

In the end i think it becomes a money-issue and if they're set on bringing back most of the current guys, which i think they are, they might have to let Beasley walk.

[scoobs07]

Lakers are likely prioritizing signing Reaves, Russell, and Rui. Unfortunately, there will likely not be enough money left to exercise the options on Beasley and Bamba, without going over the 179M or whatever super-tax. I'm not sure when that goes in to effect, but if only Beasley is brought back, that puts them awfully close to the 200M mark for payroll. Probably unlikely that they do that. Now, if there is a player that they like more than Russell or Rui, they could consider packaging Beasley/Bamba picks or whatever for said player, but idk if they would want to get too cute with it, depending on our resulting playoff success.

[Vae Victus]

One idea im thinking is this. The FA market is pretty terrible and there isnt that much cap space out there. Cap space teams arent likely looking to sign any of our FAs except maybe Reaves. I dont see Beasley or Bamba having teams super eager to sign them with the way theyve played this year so far.

For Beasley and Bamba they both have team option/unguaranteed deals. What if we're willing to re-work their deals. Both are unlikely to get any significant FA offers and at most somewhere around the tax MLE. What if the Lakers decline their 2024 contracts, then re-negotiate for a much smaller 1+1 deal with 2nd year player option, all while retaining their bird rights. Lakers can retain their depth, pay much less in lux taxes, and these two players will get a deal around the TMLE for a year and retain the ability to jump back into the FA market next year after boosting their value and when there's more cap room available. Also they get a whole season to play with a nicely balanced Laker team that'll play them heavily and better integrate them after a training camp. Bamba i think can look real good either starting or backing up AD at the C, and get at least 20 starts for when AD gets nicked up or load manages. Beasley can potentially be the 3rd guard behind DLo and Reaves and hopefully get back his old mojo in order to cash in.

I would love to see a jumbo lineup of Bamba, AD, LBJ, Beasley, and DLo, where AD is the worst 3 pt shooter and given a shitton of spacing. Bench mob being led by Reaves and Rui would also be real nice. This way, the Lakers can retain their TMLE to re-sign someone else like Shroeder or even Lonnie Walker.

[scoobs07]

One idea im thinking is this. The FA market is pretty terrible and there isnt that much cap space out there. Cap space teams arent likely looking to sign any of our FAs except maybe Reaves. I dont see Beasley or Bamba having teams super eager to sign them with the way theyve played this year so far.

For Beasley and Bamba they both have team option/unguaranteed deals. What if we're willing to re-work their deals. Both are unlikely to get any significant FA offers and at most somewhere around the tax MLE. What if the Lakers decline their 2024 contracts, then re-negotiate for a much smaller 1+1 deal with 2nd year player option, all while retaining their bird rights. Lakers can retain their depth, pay much less in lux taxes, and these two players will get a deal around the TMLE for a year and retain the ability to jump back into the FA market next year after boosting their value and when there's more cap room available. Also they get a whole season to play with a nicely balanced Laker team that'll play them heavily and better integrate them after a training camp. Bamba i think can look real good either starting or backing up AD at the C, and get at least 20 starts for when AD gets nicked up or load manages. Beasley can potentially be the 3rd guard behind DLo and Reaves and hopefully get back his old mojo in order to cash in.

I would love to see a jumbo lineup of Bamba, AD, LBJ, Beasley, and DLo, where AD is the worst 3 pt shooter and given a shitton of spacing. Bench mob being led by Reaves and Rui would also be real nice. This way, the Lakers can retain their TMLE to re-sign someone else like Shroeder or even Lonnie Walker.

I mean, it is possible in theory. But, the payroll would still go sky high, especially if you plan to still use the TMLE. I have us at around 178M, and that is w/o Beasley, Bamba, and without using the TMLE. Some outside the box ideas for me would be:

1) Trading #17 for a 2024 lottery protected 1st. Why? Lakers may loose their pick to New Orleans next season, so we get a pick to potentially use on Bronny. So, we theoretically could keep Lebron. Also, we open up some extra salary for this seasons payroll, to use on a veteran instead of a rookie.

2) Trade Beasley and Bamba for a trade exception. We would then have a 26M trade exception for one year. With the new rules, the exception could also be utilized to sign free agents. Could end useful.

3) Some combination of both.

I'm not saying we should or will do such moves, but it's food for thought.

[Karmaloop]

Zero. He's an expiring contract. His value is strictly as a salary ballast.