Doug_12 wrote:Anderson Hunt wrote:loveshaq007 wrote:
I'll pass
hood, cam can get us caruso
Schifino and Reddish will not be near enough to get the Lakers Caruso.
You have to learn to think about the other team, not just yourself/your team.
I'm not sure what I can say to teach you "player value" other than to say Caruso is highly coveted throughout the league and there are many teams that could easily beat that paltry offer.
But... why? I mean I'm not saying that we would or wouldn't do this, because I don't even understand what Davion Mitchell is supposed to provide for this team. Can you elaborate that?
The Lakers are "interested" in Dejounte Murray because he would potentially bring athleticism, speed, defense, scoring, and some playmaking. They want an infusion of "two-way" excellence in the backcourt.
Davion Mitchell is just a symbol/prototype.
Mitchell won't bring two-way excellence, but represents any player who brings impactful and physical point of attack defense and also speed and athleticism. He is also a symbol of how this prototype/need can be filled cheaply, how the front office doesn't have to spend nearly thirty million a year (on Murray) to fill this need while also giving up on the guy who's hitting 42% of his deep balls (Russell).
There are other guys like Mitchell who can cheaply fill this need for dogged point of attack defense and speed/athleticism (ie Aaron Holiday and others), but Mitchell is potentially the most impactful.
Davion Mitchell is a foil to Russell and Reaves. While Reaves and Russell are slow and prodding, Mitchell is quick and explosive. While Russell and Reaves are the last two guys you'd pick to play in the company football game, Davion Mitchell, even at only 6'1, is physically imposing and uses his girth to intimidate.
Murray, as I type, is all-around eons better than Mitchell. He scores better and he shoots better, but with Russell establishing himself as the clear-cut third wheel, this team doesn't need a guy like Murray who will struggle to replace Russell's shooting. They need a backcourt "dog". A role-player, much like Caruso, who gets in your shorts.
Davion Mitchell is better than Murray on defense, and in a year's time, with a defined role, he'll be better than Caruso on that end as well. He's elite defensively with a strong pedigree.
The question is his shot. While in college, his percentages were top-notch, but his shot hasn't translated yet. This begs the question: How is he any better than Reddish in the same defensive role? Simply put, he's faster, more physical, and defends smaller guards (6'4 and under) better. The Lakers need every bit of that speed, physicality, and dogged backcourt defense.
If (big-if) he ever gets his shot to start falling, he'd become an instant threat to Reaves for closing minutes, IMO.
Dejounte Murray and Patty Mills (the type of shooter they'd get to replace Russell) is simply not as good as Russell and Davion Mitchell. When you factor in the Lakers would be giving up the 2029 first rounder for Murray while Mitchell would only cost you at most two seconds, the picture becomes even clearer.
Losing Russell's shooting isn't worth adding Murray's athleticism and speed when you can add that same athleticism/speed and backcourt defense with a simple loss of Schifino and a second round pick (or two).
Any other questions?