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Post#1 » by Decipher » Tue May 14, 2024 8:23 am

OKC trades Giddey
OKC receives DFS

BKN trades DFS
BKN receives Giddey

Why for OKC

Giddey’s minutes have fallen dramatically as he’s being played out of position as a spot up shooter and also needs to be extended next season

DFS is a 3 & D guy who better suits their style

Why for BKN

They need a PG, has size which will be useful next to Thomas and his timeline better suits the Nets than DFS
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Post#2 » by TheBrooklynKidd » Tue May 14, 2024 2:08 pm

Great value for DFS.

I just consider Giddey untouchable.

After the Kyrie debacle, I have very little tolerance for off-court issues.

Giddeys talent doesn’t justify the risk.
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Post#3 » by jayjaysee » Tue May 14, 2024 2:17 pm

Think some openly rebuilding team offers a decent amount more value for Giddey.

OKC might take DFS and half the third teams return if Brooklyn doesn’t want to add more to it. DFS is a great fit and maybe helps Dieng progress? Or Cody Williams?

But OKC should just keep Giddey if this is all he’s worth, just trade or sign a big starting forward and try to use Giddey like Manu, or how they used Harden... if he’s only worth DFS, he’s unlikely to get an offer they won’t match.
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Post#4 » by Texas Chuck » Tue May 14, 2024 3:04 pm

Giddey makes sense in Brooklyn. DFS fits kinda anywhere. But I'm with jay that OKC should be getting some extra value out of this or doing something else. And I'm a Ferrari Doe stan.
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Post#5 » by Devilanche » Tue May 14, 2024 3:23 pm

If I can’t get more I probably just keep him.
This value him as probably close to MLE extension (max at 15m/year?) and at that price I probably would lean towards keeping him ?

Moving him cause he probably getting around 20m/year or looking to get that .
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Post#6 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue May 14, 2024 3:24 pm

I think OKC does this for Cam but not DFS.

Does Giddey + Kenrich + 25 MIA FRP for Cam + DFS make either team happy? Maybe add like 3 SRP from OKC?
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Post#7 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Tue May 14, 2024 3:29 pm

Just do it for some picks instead. But yes I'm still a fan.
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Post#8 » by Devilanche » Tue May 14, 2024 4:05 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:I think OKC does this for Cam but not DFS.

Does Giddey + Kenrich + 25 MIA FRP for Cam + DFS make either team happy? Maybe add like 3 SRP from OKC?

I’m probably more a fan of a pick than making a move for cam .

DFS at least I can understand the allure. A vet that knows his role.

Edit -
To clarify my priorities for OKC.
- vet that’s proven in their role
- future picks down the line . Further down the better
- young prospect at the big spot but I rather go for proven vet or try my luck with Dieng there.
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Post#9 » by BlazersBroncos » Tue May 14, 2024 4:19 pm

Devilanche wrote:
BlazersBroncos wrote:I think OKC does this for Cam but not DFS.

Does Giddey + Kenrich + 25 MIA FRP for Cam + DFS make either team happy? Maybe add like 3 SRP from OKC?

I’m probably more a fan of a pick than making a move for cam .

DFS at least I can understand the allure. A vet that knows his role.

Edit -
To clarify my priorities for OKC.
- vet that’s proven in their role
- future picks down the line . Further down the better
- young prospect at the big spot but I rather go for proven vet or try my luck with Dieng there.


My thinking is they could make this move and another for a big like WCJ.

G - Shai Gilgeous-Alexander / Cason Wallace
G - Lou Dort / Isaiah Joe / Aaron Wiggins
F - Jalen Williams / Aaron Wiggins / Dalton Knetch OR Cody Williams (12)
F - Dorian Finney-Smith / Cam Johnson / Jalen Williams
C - Chet Holmgren / Wendell Carter JR / Jaylin Williams

Stack elite role players if they cant get Lauri (Or another star).
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Post#10 » by Devilanche » Tue May 14, 2024 4:41 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:
Devilanche wrote:
BlazersBroncos wrote:I think OKC does this for Cam but not DFS.

Does Giddey + Kenrich + 25 MIA FRP for Cam + DFS make either team happy? Maybe add like 3 SRP from OKC?

I’m probably more a fan of a pick than making a move for cam .

DFS at least I can understand the allure. A vet that knows his role.

Edit -
To clarify my priorities for OKC.
- vet that’s proven in their role
- future picks down the line . Further down the better
- young prospect at the big spot but I rather go for proven vet or try my luck with Dieng there.


My thinking is they could make this move and another for a big like WCJ.

G - Shai Gilgeous-Alexander / Cason Wallace
G - Lou Dort / Isaiah Joe / Aaron Wiggins
F - Jalen Williams / Aaron Wiggins / Dalton Knetch OR Cody Williams (12)
F - Dorian Finney-Smith / Cam Johnson / Jalen Williams
C - Chet Holmgren / Wendell Carter JR / Jaylin Williams

Stack elite role players if they cant get Lauri (Or another star).


My bad . Was thinking of Cam Thomas.

Cam Johnson make sense from a needs point of view.
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Post#11 » by JKiddy » Tue May 14, 2024 4:43 pm

I do not think Giddey's value is at the level of even DFS right now due to OKC not needing him, his off the court issues just occurred, etc.

On paper this might look good. But, I do not think BK wants to deal with this stuff anymore.
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Post#12 » by Decipher » Tue May 14, 2024 6:15 pm

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:Great value for DFS.

I just consider Giddey untouchable.

After the Kyrie debacle, I have very little tolerance for off-court issues.

Giddeys talent doesn’t justify the risk.


What risk?

Case is closed

What’s more, Giddey isn’t a Porter Jr type character anyway
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Post#13 » by TheBrooklynKidd » Tue May 14, 2024 6:21 pm

Decipher wrote:
TheBrooklynKidd wrote:Great value for DFS.

I just consider Giddey untouchable.

After the Kyrie debacle, I have very little tolerance for off-court issues.

Giddeys talent doesn’t justify the risk.


What risk?

Case is closed

What’s more, Giddey isn’t a Porter Jr type character anyway


I’m more worried about the court of public opinion, AKA the NY media. All it takes is one comment or picture to set off a frenzy.

It’s too much of a headache for a player as flawed as Giddey.
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Post#14 » by Decipher » Tue May 14, 2024 6:23 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:I think OKC does this for Cam but not DFS.

Does Giddey + Kenrich + 25 MIA FRP for Cam + DFS make either team happy? Maybe add like 3 SRP from OKC?


I would do something like that as Johnson was terrible for the Nets last season

This isn’t directed at you but it’s interesting reading proposals involving Nets players as it’s obvious that very few people watched the team play (& I don’t blame them !)

Johnson was very poor for most of the season plus he’s injury prone, Bridges was complete rubbish in 2024, Claxton went backwards, etc

If it were up to me, the place would be cleaned out
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Post#15 » by Decipher » Tue May 14, 2024 6:27 pm

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:
Decipher wrote:
TheBrooklynKidd wrote:Great value for DFS.

I just consider Giddey untouchable.

After the Kyrie debacle, I have very little tolerance for off-court issues.

Giddeys talent doesn’t justify the risk.


What risk?

Case is closed

What’s more, Giddey isn’t a Porter Jr type character anyway


I’m more worried about the court of public opinion, AKA the NY media. All it takes is one comment or picture to set off a frenzy.

It’s too much of a headache for a player as flawed as Giddey.


If we’re being realistic, he’s a young kid who allegedly went home with a girl he met in a bar where you’re supposed to be 21 in the first place

There’s a lot of people who would be in trouble for similar
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Post#16 » by TheBrooklynKidd » Tue May 14, 2024 6:48 pm

Decipher wrote:
TheBrooklynKidd wrote:
Decipher wrote:
What risk?

Case is closed

What’s more, Giddey isn’t a Porter Jr type character anyway


I’m more worried about the court of public opinion, AKA the NY media. All it takes is one comment or picture to set off a frenzy.

It’s too much of a headache for a player as flawed as Giddey.


If we’re being realistic, he’s a young kid who allegedly went home with a girl he met in a bar where you’re supposed to be 21 in the first place

There’s a lot of people who would be in trouble for similar


Sure.

He’s not worth the headache of even having to explain that.
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Post#17 » by Kizz Fastfists » Tue May 14, 2024 7:18 pm

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:Great value for DFS.

I just consider Giddey untouchable.

After the Kyrie debacle, I have very little tolerance for off-court issues.

Giddeys talent doesn’t justify the risk.


Is being lied to by a woman qualify as off-court issues? If so Brooklyn should move somewhere that isn't an issues. The girl had a fake ID, lied about her age and there Giddey was completely cleared. I understand if Brooklyn wouldn't want him from a basketball standpoint, but to say you don't want a player because he was lied to means you need to clear the roster of everyone.
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Post#18 » by TheBrooklynKidd » Tue May 14, 2024 7:34 pm

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
TheBrooklynKidd wrote:Great value for DFS.

I just consider Giddey untouchable.

After the Kyrie debacle, I have very little tolerance for off-court issues.

Giddeys talent doesn’t justify the risk.


Is being lied to by a woman qualify as off-court issues? If so Brooklyn should move somewhere that isn't an issues. The girl had a fake ID, lied about her age and there Giddey was completely cleared. I understand if Brooklyn wouldn't want him from a basketball standpoint, but to say you don't want a player because he was lied to means you need to clear the roster of everyone.


This response is a perfect example of why I don’t want him on my team.

We had enough of this with Kyrie Irving. Personally I’m not signing up for it again for a lesser player.

We want basketball discussions. Not dissections of the moral ambiguities of a player’s life choices.
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Post#19 » by jayjaysee » Tue May 14, 2024 7:41 pm

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
TheBrooklynKidd wrote:Great value for DFS.

I just consider Giddey untouchable.

After the Kyrie debacle, I have very little tolerance for off-court issues.

Giddeys talent doesn’t justify the risk.


Is being lied to by a woman qualify as off-court issues? If so Brooklyn should move somewhere that isn't an issues. The girl had a fake ID, lied about her age and there Giddey was completely cleared. I understand if Brooklyn wouldn't want him from a basketball standpoint, but to say you don't want a player because he was lied to means you need to clear the roster of everyone.


Was this confirmed?

Because that is the upside of the story.

The downside is he got the underage girl into the club and knew?

As far as I saw, nothing at all was confirmed except the girl and her family didn’t talk to police. Statements from his people saying he stopped talking to her when he found out doesn’t really clear the air.

I don’t think it is a major impact on his value because it was 2 years ago, he was only 19 and there was no complaint and there’s a lot of maybes... But typing that does sound like it should impact his value a bit right?

Unless there was proof they didn’t know each other before the club and everything was just a bad situation for him
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Post#20 » by Kizz Fastfists » Tue May 14, 2024 8:08 pm

jayjaysee wrote:
Kizz Fastfists wrote:
TheBrooklynKidd wrote:Great value for DFS.

I just consider Giddey untouchable.

After the Kyrie debacle, I have very little tolerance for off-court issues.

Giddeys talent doesn’t justify the risk.


Is being lied to by a woman qualify as off-court issues? If so Brooklyn should move somewhere that isn't an issues. The girl had a fake ID, lied about her age and there Giddey was completely cleared. I understand if Brooklyn wouldn't want him from a basketball standpoint, but to say you don't want a player because he was lied to means you need to clear the roster of everyone.


Was this confirmed?


It was confirmed which is why there were no charges once the police investigated it.
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