atlantabbq99 wrote:You can do #1 vs #4 #8 in the last 10 or 20 years
And that would be the appropriate way to evaluate the decision.
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atlantabbq99 wrote:You can do #1 vs #4 #8 in the last 10 or 20 years
atlantabbq99 wrote:Just for fun, i went ahead and compared #1 to #4 and #8 in the last five drafts...
Wembanyama vs Amen Thompson and Jarace Walker
Banchero vs Keegan Murray and Dyson Daniels
Cunningham vs Scottie Barnes and Franz Wagner
Anthony Edwards vs Patrick Williams and Obi Toppin
Zion vs DeAndr Hunter vs Jaxson Hayes
So ya LOL, no thanks.....
raleigh wrote:atlantabbq99 wrote:You can do #1 vs #4 #8 in the last 10 or 20 years
And that would be the appropriate way to evaluate the decision.
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jayjaysee wrote:raleigh wrote:atlantabbq99 wrote:You can do #1 vs #4 #8 in the last 10 or 20 years
And that would be the appropriate way to evaluate the decision.
Shrugs.
So the last five have been done, and number 1 is 4 and 1 (I’ll take Barnes/Franz over Cade, the rest is the stars)… So starting after Zion?
2018 - Ayton for JJJ (and anyone)
Atlanta 4 and 2
2017 - Fultz (but that’s just a bad trade really) for Josh Jackson and Frank
Atlanta 5 and 2 (terrible misses all around, like avoiding drafting talent)
2016 - Simmons vs Bender and Chriss
Atlanta 6 and 2
2015 - KAT vs Zinger and Stanley Johnson
Atlanta 7 and 2
2014 - Wiggins for Aaron Gordon and Nik Sauce
Meh? I’ll give Denver Gordon
Atlanta 7 and 3
2013 - Bennet vs Zeller/KCP
Atlanra 7 and 4
2012 - AD vs Ross and Waiters
Atlanta 8 and 4
2011 - Kyrie vs Tristan Thompson and Brandon Knight
Atlanta 9 and 4
2010 - Wall vs Aminu and Wesley Johnson
Atlanta 10 and 4
2009 - Blake Griffin vs Reke Evans and Jordan Hill
Atlanta 11 and 4
2008 - Rose vs Westbrook and Joe Alexander?
One of the saddest stories but Atlanta 11 and 5
2007 - Oden vs Conley
Another sad story, but Atlanta 11 and 6
2006 - Bargs vs Gay and Tyrus Thomas
Atlanta 11 and 7
2005 - Bogut vs Paul and anyone
11 and 8
2004 - Howard vs Livingston and Arauto
12 and 8
2003 - LBJ vs world
13 and 8
2002 - Yao vs Gooden and Wilcox
14 and 8
2001 - Kwame vs Diop and Curry
No one? 14 and 9 I guess.
Texas Chuck wrote:I totally disagree with using past drafts to evaluate if these teams should do this. None of those players are available. This is going to come down to the Spurs are convinced one of these guys is exactly what we need(and in that case you'd pay even more) while the Hawks don't believe any of them are special so they just want more variance shots.
Hawks never do this deal in the AD draft, they always do it in the Bennett draft. But that's just not relevant here.
gswhoops wrote:CP War Hawks wrote:I have Sarr a tier to himself, not interested in 4 and 8 with the guys in this draft.
Lol every year we hear the same story on this board: that this is an [X]-player draft, where [X] is coincidentally the pick my favorite team has.
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
raleigh wrote:In this draft it's more like having the #10 or the #13 and #17.
You don't have to exaggerate to make your point.
atlantabbq99 wrote:Just for fun, i went ahead and compared #1 to #4 and #8 in the last five drafts...
Wembanyama vs Amen Thompson and Jarace Walker
Banchero vs Keegan Murray and Dyson Daniels
Cunningham vs Scottie Barnes and Franz Wagner
Anthony Edwards vs Patrick Williams and Obi Toppin
Zion vs DeAndr Hunter vs Jaxson Hayes
So ya LOL, no thanks.....
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
atlantabbq99 wrote:One_and_Done wrote:atlantabbq99 wrote:Just for fun, i went ahead and compared #1 to #4 and #8 in the last five drafts...
Wembanyama vs Amen Thompson and Jarace Walker
Banchero vs Keegan Murray and Dyson Daniels
Cunningham vs Scottie Barnes and Franz Wagner
Anthony Edwards vs Patrick Williams and Obi Toppin
Zion vs DeAndr Hunter vs Jaxson Hayes
So ya LOL, no thanks.....
Except that's silly, because this year picking 1 isn't much different to picking 4. Not every draft is the same.
This is not true. In 2020 draft it was a five man race for #1, Edwards, Wiseman, Lamelo, Killian, and Avdija and this is not even including Haliburton who was protected to be a mid to late lottery talent.
Warspite wrote:Billups was a horrible scorer who could only score with an open corner 3 or a FT.
Texas Chuck wrote:Hawks never do this deal in the AD draft, they always do it in the Bennett draft. But that's just not relevant here.
raleigh wrote:Texas Chuck wrote:Hawks never do this deal in the AD draft, they always do it in the Bennett draft. But that's just not relevant here.
Yes, we would prefer a reality where teams can leap into the future a half-decade, determine the likely outcomes for the respective players, and then return to the current time.
In this reality, however, you have to use past data to make predictions about the future.
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