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Re: Looking for PG needy team Dejounte Murray

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:14 pm
by dms269
Euphonetiks wrote:Been mentioned here a ton, but an Ingram-Murray swap probably improves fit with the Pels-Hawks respective stars.


A Murray-Ingram swap doesn't work with contract considered though, because Ingram would be coming in as a possible 1 year rental.

Re: Looking for PG needy team Dejounte Murray

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:24 pm
by Euphonetiks
dms269 wrote:
Euphonetiks wrote:Been mentioned here a ton, but an Ingram-Murray swap probably improves fit with the Pels-Hawks respective stars.


A Murray-Ingram swap doesn't work with contract considered though, because Ingram would be coming in as a possible 1 year rental.


I think Ingram would be happy to be in Atlanta and any trade would be contingent on Atlanta's conversations with BI's agent on next contract similar to the Pacers with Siakam. Pels probably add value too.

Re: Looking for PG needy team Dejounte Murray

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:28 pm
by dms269
Euphonetiks wrote:
dms269 wrote:
Euphonetiks wrote:Been mentioned here a ton, but an Ingram-Murray swap probably improves fit with the Pels-Hawks respective stars.


A Murray-Ingram swap doesn't work with contract considered though, because Ingram would be coming in as a possible 1 year rental.


I think Ingram would be happy to be in Atlanta and any trade would be contingent on Atlanta's conversations with BI's agent on next contract similar to the Pacers with Siakam. Pels probably add value too.


I would much rather prefer DJM at 4/114 than Ingram at a potential 4/221. 100 million less for similar production.

Re: Looking for PG needy team Dejounte Murray

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:29 pm
by TheBrooklynKidd
tbhawksfan1 wrote:
TheBrooklynKidd wrote:Cam Johnson+?

I floated the idea of something around Bridges for Trae the other day. Would that be of interest?


What do you add to either of them to get Trae? Trae is younger and much better than either


I wouldn’t add more than one 1st if it’s Bridges going out.

If it’s Cam Johnson I’d add four 1sts or so.

Re: Looking for PG needy team Dejounte Murray

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:41 pm
by jbk1234
tbhawksfan1 wrote:ORL seems like a team that would love to land Murray... WCJr and Black fits what I'm looking for but the ORL FRP figures to be around 25... Is that enough value for Hawks to agree?


I don't think the Magic agree to send all that, but if they do, the Hawks would be foolish to turn it down.

Re: Looking for PG needy team Dejounte Murray

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:11 am
by cgf
Murray for Herro?

Re: Looking for PG needy team Dejounte Murray

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:27 am
by Viper1500
WCJ, Cole Anthony and 2 first

I really don't want to trade Black

Re: Looking for PG needy team Dejounte Murray

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:49 am
by NYG
dms269 wrote:
Euphonetiks wrote:Been mentioned here a ton, but an Ingram-Murray swap probably improves fit with the Pels-Hawks respective stars.


A Murray-Ingram swap doesn't work with contract considered though, because Ingram would be coming in as a possible 1 year rental.


I just think Ingram is the best player in 2024-25 you're getting back for Murray.

Re: Looking for PG needy team Dejounte Murray

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 1:54 am
by dms269
NYG wrote:
dms269 wrote:
Euphonetiks wrote:Been mentioned here a ton, but an Ingram-Murray swap probably improves fit with the Pels-Hawks respective stars.


A Murray-Ingram swap doesn't work with contract considered though, because Ingram would be coming in as a possible 1 year rental.


I just think Ingram is the best player in 2024-25 you're getting back for Murray.
The concern is after 24-25. If you trade for Ingram.youbhave to be prepared to give him 50+ a year.

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Re: Looking for PG needy team Dejounte Murray

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 2:00 am
by NYG
dms269 wrote:
NYG wrote:
dms269 wrote:
A Murray-Ingram swap doesn't work with contract considered though, because Ingram would be coming in as a possible 1 year rental.


I just think Ingram is the best player in 2024-25 you're getting back for Murray.
The concern is after 24-25. If you trade for Ingram.youbhave to be prepared to give him 50+ a year.

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Yeah... do you like Dejounte for Coby/Caruso?

Re: Looking for PG needy team Dejounte Murray

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 6:30 am
by babyjax13
cgf wrote:Murray for Herro?

Can you imagine how bad Atlanta's defense will be?

Re: Looking for PG needy team Dejounte Murray

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:01 pm
by cgf
babyjax13 wrote:
cgf wrote:Murray for Herro?

Can you imagine how bad Atlanta's defense will be?


No worse than it is already? :lol: Better if JJ doesn't miss as much time next year.

Re: Looking for PG needy team Dejounte Murray

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:11 pm
by Wolveswin
NYG wrote:
dms269 wrote:
Euphonetiks wrote:Been mentioned here a ton, but an Ingram-Murray swap probably improves fit with the Pels-Hawks respective stars.


A Murray-Ingram swap doesn't work with contract considered though, because Ingram would be coming in as a possible 1 year rental.


I just think Ingram is the best player in 2024-25 you're getting back for Murray.

He is. But doesn’t work with contract concerns. I have Murray > Ingram in trade value.

3rd team is needed, more primed to be risk avert - probably because they too are trading flight risk value - unlike Hawks who are trading a locked in value contract Murray.

Re: Looking for PG needy team Dejounte Murray

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:26 pm
by Wolveswin
To Pelicans: Murray + Capela

To OKC: Ingram + LNJ (or Capela direct)

To Hawks: ______ (from OKC) + 25 Lakers 1st (via Pels)

What does Presti give up for Ingram? How does Presti feel about resigning/retaining Ingram? Does Presti like the fit of Ingram as 3rd or 4th fiddle in OKC?

Hawks don’t take the Ingram re-sign gamble - they get Giddey (maybe). Or Dort+.

Re: Looking for PG needy team Dejounte Murray

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:16 pm
by cgf
NYG wrote:
dms269 wrote:
NYG wrote:
I just think Ingram is the best player in 2024-25 you're getting back for Murray.
The concern is after 24-25. If you trade for Ingram.youbhave to be prepared to give him 50+ a year.

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Yeah... do you like Dejounte for Coby/Caruso?


How is Atlanta getting the picks to trade Murray for two players that are both better than Murray?