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Lauri is an expiring player who can’t be extended and traded before next summer. Some of these demands are understandable but also not happening.

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Lauri is an expiring player who can’t be extended and traded before next summer. Some of these demands are understandable but also not happening.

Yes, that's fine. We will renegotiate and extend him and trade him then if we trade him.

babyjax13 wrote:

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Lauri is an expiring player who can’t be extended and traded before next summer. Some of these demands are understandable but also not happening.

Yes, that's fine. We will renegotiate and extend him and trade him then if we trade him.

This. An impasse is a far more likely event in EVERY trade discussion than an agreement and is perfectly acceptable here as well.

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Lauri is an expiring player who can’t be extended and traded before next summer. Some of these demands are understandable but also not happening.

“Understandable but also not happening” is the unofficial motto of the trade board. Rightfully so .

babyjax13 wrote:

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Lauri is an expiring player who can’t be extended and traded before next summer. Some of these demands are understandable but also not happening.

Yes, that's fine. We will renegotiate and extend him and trade him then if we trade him.

Ideally yes. He might not be interested. I know there is a presumption when it comes to players on our own team that they will re-sign with our team or if we trade them they will definitely re-sign with that team(see every Siakam thread before his trade) so that we can still set his value at max locked up levels.

But when its players on other teams we always price in the risk. Feels like we should price in the risk even when its our guy, but we don't. And I get it. We love our teams. We want to think our players love our teams. Jalen Brunson never leaves because he wants to be somewhere else. Not sure yet the assumption about them signing with the new team though, that feels intentionally self-serving as opposed to just natural fandom.

Texas Chuck wrote:

babyjax13 wrote:

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Lauri is an expiring player who can’t be extended and traded before next summer. Some of these demands are understandable but also not happening.

Yes, that's fine. We will renegotiate and extend him and trade him then if we trade him.

Ideally yes. He might not be interested. I know there is a presumption when it comes to players on our own team that they will re-sign with our team or if we trade them they will definitely re-sign with that team(see every Siakam thread before his trade) so that we can still set his value at max locked up levels.

But when its players on other teams we always price in the risk. Feels like we should price in the risk even when its our guy, but we don't. And I get it. We love our teams. We want to think our players love our teams. Jalen Brunson never leaves because he wants to be somewhere else. Not sure yet the assumption about them signing with the new team though, that feels intentionally self-serving as opposed to just natural fandom.

This is a situation where the difference over the life of his contract is potentially $26 million next year + raises + hitting free agency a year earlier to secure another larger contract. Normally I'd agree that this is too strong of an assumption, but the uniqueness of the R+E means (IMO) that we should value him as-if an extension were certain. Other teams should not.

Texas Chuck wrote:

babyjax13 wrote:

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Lauri is an expiring player who can’t be extended and traded before next summer. Some of these demands are understandable but also not happening.

Yes, that's fine. We will renegotiate and extend him and trade him then if we trade him.

Ideally yes. He might not be interested. I know there is a presumption when it comes to players on our own team that they will re-sign with our team or if we trade them they will definitely re-sign with that team(see every Siakam thread before his trade) so that we can still set his value at max locked up levels.

But when its players on other teams we always price in the risk. Feels like we should price in the risk even when its our guy, but we don't. And I get it. We love our teams. We want to think our players love our teams. Jalen Brunson never leaves because he wants to be somewhere else. Not sure yet the assumption about them signing with the new team though, that feels intentionally self-serving as opposed to just natural fandom.

Agreed. Fans of outgoing and incoming teams both do these things, as do real front offices. 100% natural. That’s why it’s far more common that this disparity in perceived value results in impasse rather than agreement.

babyjax13 wrote:

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Lauri is an expiring player who can’t be extended and traded before next summer. Some of these demands are understandable but also not happening.

Yes, that's fine. We will renegotiate and extend him and trade him then if we trade him.

The renegotiation into the Jazz's cap space makes sense of course but he's also a 7 year vet this offseason, so he can get up to 30% of the cap - at a 141 cap, that's a salary starting at 42.3m with 8% raises. Would be an easier decision if he was a clear cut #1 option, as a deal like that for a player about to turn 27, you would think the Jazz would have to accelerate their rebuild timeline. Do they have the assets and availability of pieces needed to acquire? I'm not sure. Kinda puts the Jazz in the max him now or trade him spot, cause someone will give him a max offer in 2025.

Now for the record, I was just postulating an ideal fit for the Thunder, hadn't really looked into the numbers to see what was happening. If Jazz keep him, that would be great; if they trade him, the Thunder would be hard pressed to be beat - and I 100% would want Wallace as well, in any package. Wallace, Dieng and 3 picks would be something to look at.