Finding THJ a home

[Astaluego]

Love the premise of this thread and agree 100%. THJ and Green should be on the market for a dump of some sort

Is Utah really going to draft 3 guys this year? Might they trade 31 for Green and take him into space? His value is hard to gauge, I think he's mostly trash but I've been told I'm just a hater, so not sure.

WOuld a team desperate for shooting take THJ for a smaller deal?

I don't see us adding value for Green, I'd expect Dallas to have to pay us to take his contract.

You paid an SRP (if I'm not mistaken) for Collins... how much do you need to take a 23-year-old 2-way guy, who earns +- the MLE and plays regular minutes in a contender...???

[Monky15]

Would THJ leave 7M on the table in a buyout if he feels he can sign a multi year deal with another team this off season?

[BK_2020]

Would THJ leave 7M on the table in a buyout if he feels he can sign a multi year deal with another team this off season?

What team would give him a T-MLE deal and for more than 2 seasons guaranteed? He's bad on offense, worse on defense, and 32 years old.

[babyjax13]

Love the premise of this thread and agree 100%. THJ and Green should be on the market for a dump of some sort

Is Utah really going to draft 3 guys this year? Might they trade 31 for Green and take him into space? His value is hard to gauge, I think he's mostly trash but I've been told I'm just a hater, so not sure.

WOuld a team desperate for shooting take THJ for a smaller deal?

I don't see us adding value for Green, I'd expect Dallas to have to pay us to take his contract.

You paid an SRP (if I'm not mistaken) for Collins... how much do you need to take a 23-year-old 2-way guy, who earns +- the MLE and plays regular minutes in a contender...???

Who cares what we traded for Collins? He's not worth his contract and, IMO, neither is Green.

[babyjax13]

THJ + 2025 DAL 1st + 2nds to CHI for Ayo Dosumu, Jevon Carter, and Torrey Craig? Maybe OMP instead of the 2nds? That would fill out Dallas' depth chart really nicely:

Lively/Gafford
Washington/Kleber/Craig
Luka/Green/Craig
Jones/Donsunmu
Kyrie/Carter/Dosunmu

[Mavrelous]

THJ + 2025 DAL 1st + 2nds to CHI for Ayo Dosumu, Jevon Carter, and Torrey Craig? Maybe OMP instead of the 2nds? That would fill out Dallas' depth chart really nicely:

Lively/Gafford
Washington/Kleber/Craig
Luka/Green/Craig
Jones/Donsunmu
Kyrie/Carter/Dosunmu

Maybe w/o the 1st? Carter is a negative value, Craig is JAG, Ayo is a 3&D guard, Mavs already have Green for a similar role...

[jayjaysee]

If Chicago does that trade, would they just do Green and the first for Ayo?

Once you dump Powell for cash and/or a second you can safely give DJJ 11-12 million of the TPE I believe..

I think Ayo could take another big step this coming season and be a really nice bargain for a team trying to stay under the apron..

[daoneandonly]

THJ + 2025 DAL 1st + 2nds to CHI for Ayo Dosumu, Jevon Carter, and Torrey Craig? Maybe OMP instead of the 2nds? That would fill out Dallas' depth chart really nicely:

Lively/Gafford
Washington/Kleber/Craig
Luka/Green/Craig
Jones/Donsunmu
Kyrie/Carter/Dosunmu

Maybe w/o the 1st? Carter is a negative value, Craig is JAG, Ayo is a 3&D guard, Mavs already have Green for a similar role...

Yea in no way should Dallas give up a 1st for that heap of nothing from Chi

[JRoy]

THJ + 2025 DAL 1st + 2nds to CHI for Ayo Dosumu, Jevon Carter, and Torrey Craig? Maybe OMP instead of the 2nds? That would fill out Dallas' depth chart really nicely:

Lively/Gafford
Washington/Kleber/Craig
Luka/Green/Craig
Jones/Donsunmu
Kyrie/Carter/Dosunmu

Maybe w/o the 1st? Carter is a negative value, Craig is JAG, Ayo is a 3&D guard, Mavs already have Green for a similar role...

Yea in no way should Dallas give up a 1st for that heap of nothing from Chi

+1 for “heap of rotting nothing”

[babyjax13]

Maybe w/o the 1st? Carter is a negative value, Craig is JAG, Ayo is a 3&D guard, Mavs already have Green for a similar role...

Yea in no way should Dallas give up a 1st for that heap of nothing from Chi

+1 for “heap of rotting nothing”

IDK, I think Ayo is quite a bit better than THJ and both Carter and Craig are roleplayers who can play minutes on a playoff team. If the deal is off on value I'm sure it can be bridged with Chicago sending some 2nds and/or reasonable protections on the pick. Maybe I'm way off, but Ayo seems like exactly the kind of rotation player Dallas needs?

[daoneandonly]

Yea in no way should Dallas give up a 1st for that heap of nothing from Chi

+1 for “heap of rotting nothing”

IDK, I think Ayo is quite a bit better than THJ and both Carter and Craig are roleplayers who can play minutes on a playoff team. If the deal is off on value I'm sure it can be bridged with Chicago sending some 2nds and/or reasonable protections on the pick. Maybe I'm way off, but Ayo seems like exactly the kind of rotation player Dallas needs?

Not for a first, and Carter has an extra year. No reason for Dallas to give up one of their last remaining picks for these guys at all

[psman2]

Yea in no way should Dallas give up a 1st for that heap of nothing from Chi

+1 for “heap of rotting nothing”

IDK, I think Ayo is quite a bit better than THJ and both Carter and Craig are roleplayers who can play minutes on a playoff team. If the deal is off on value I'm sure it can be bridged with Chicago sending some 2nds and/or reasonable protections on the pick. Maybe I'm way off, but Ayo seems like exactly the kind of rotation player Dallas needs?

Ayo really put some stats down the stretch and is trending up. I think a lot of teams would like to get him in their rotation and see if his stats translate in that role. Not sure if a 1st is out there for him yet but he is the type of guy I wouldn't mind a team buying high on and overpaying some. I wouldn't mind if the Bucks offered 23 for him or Nuggets at 28. Bulls still might not be willing sellers.

[jayjaysee]

Yea in no way should Dallas give up a 1st for that heap of nothing from Chi

+1 for “heap of rotting nothing”

IDK, I think Ayo is quite a bit better than THJ and both Carter and Craig are roleplayers who can play minutes on a playoff team. If the deal is off on value I'm sure it can be bridged with Chicago sending some 2nds and/or reasonable protections on the pick. Maybe I'm way off, but Ayo seems like exactly the kind of rotation player Dallas needs?

I think part of the problem is.. you still have Josh Green stuck as a worse version of Ayo.. so you have to use assets to get rid of Green to actually balance the roster or free up the MLE, etc.. while paying a first and being stuck with Carter..

If I were targeting Ayo it would have to involve a third team. Chicago needs to trim salary or reallocate it to the four, Dallas needs to trim salary and keep their four. Rough pegs to me.

[Texas Chuck]

Yea in no way should Dallas give up a 1st for that heap of nothing from Chi

+1 for “heap of rotting nothing”

IDK, I think Ayo is quite a bit better than THJ and both Carter and Craig are roleplayers who can play minutes on a playoff team. If the deal is off on value I'm sure it can be bridged with Chicago sending some 2nds and/or reasonable protections on the pick. Maybe I'm way off, but Ayo seems like exactly the kind of rotation player Dallas needs?

Ayo in theory fits Dallas. I think if you are playing Craig or Carter in playoff games you pretty much hate it. I would have them as basically meaningless to the calculation here except as contracts. I mean Carter is behind Luka, Kyrie, Ayo, Green and Exum He has no role even in the RS. Craig might steal some minutes if Jones is gone, but he's not a good solution to playoff minutes.

Should Dallas empty their clip for Ayo? I wouldn't. But its a small overpay and he's young so if they think he is on the ascent--and our Bulls fans are Bullish on him--and the Mavs are willing to have a sky high payroll to keep him--maybe you just overpay?

[babyjax13]

+1 for “heap of rotting nothing”

IDK, I think Ayo is quite a bit better than THJ and both Carter and Craig are roleplayers who can play minutes on a playoff team. If the deal is off on value I'm sure it can be bridged with Chicago sending some 2nds and/or reasonable protections on the pick. Maybe I'm way off, but Ayo seems like exactly the kind of rotation player Dallas needs?

Ayo in theory fits Dallas. I think if you are playing Craig or Carter in playoff games you pretty much hate it. I would have them as basically meaningless to the calculation here except as contracts. I mean Carter is behind Luka, Kyrie, Ayo, Green and Exum He has no role even in the RS. Craig might steal some minutes if Jones is gone, but he's not a good solution to playoff minutes.

Should Dallas empty their clip for Ayo? I wouldn't. But its a small overpay and he's young so if they think he is on the ascent--and our Bulls fans are Bullish on him--and the Mavs are willing to have a sky high payroll to keep him--maybe you just overpay?

Maybe Ayo + Caruso makes more sense?

[jayjaysee]

Kuzma, Hardy, and Prosper to Chicago
Ayo and Caruso to Dallas
THJ, Green, Carter, Dallas 2025 first to Washington

And anyone can have the rest of Dallas’ 2nds?

Full MLE opened for DJJ and Luka guards the worst player on court at all times?

[babyjax13]

Kuzma, Hardy, and Prosper to Chicago
Ayo and Caruso to Dallas
THJ, Green, Carter, Dallas 2025 first to Washington

And anyone can have the rest of Dallas’ 2nds?

Full MLE opened for DJJ and Luka guards the worst player on court at all times?

Probably easier without Washington. This still lets Chicago have their half-tank while adding a pick. I think Green can be dumped into someone's cap space relatively easily if needed.

[Astaluego]

Kuzma, Hardy, and Prosper to Chicago
Ayo and Caruso to Dallas
THJ, Green, Carter, Dallas 2025 first to Washington

And anyone can have the rest of Dallas’ 2nds?

Full MLE opened for DJJ and Luka guards the worst player on court at all times?

I like this much more... Caruso and saving to be able to sign DJJ is all I would like... ideally send some extra SRP and canned O-Max..?.. The boy has been under the radar, since he has spent the entire year in the G league, but his development is going even better than expected, I think many Dallas fans are excited about the boy

[jayjaysee]

Kuzma, Hardy, and Prosper to Chicago
Ayo and Caruso to Dallas
THJ, Green, Carter, Dallas 2025 first to Washington

And anyone can have the rest of Dallas’ 2nds?

Full MLE opened for DJJ and Luka guards the worst player on court at all times?

Probably easier without Washington. This still lets Chicago have their half-tank while adding a pick. I think Green can be dumped into someone's cap space relatively easily if needed.

Chicago really can’t take on the extra money Dallas needs them to and stay under the tax, while keeping Demar/Patrick.. and I assume they have to stay under the tax for that roster..

If they’re actually rebuilding, I agree with you cut Washington out completely. And they should rebuild. I just don’t believe they will.

But yeah, they might prefer to just keep one of Green or THJ while using 2nds to dump the other, and run the group back while getting an actual first. Would still need/want Carter cut out though..

[jayjaysee]

Kuzma, Hardy, and Prosper to Chicago
Ayo and Caruso to Dallas
THJ, Green, Carter, Dallas 2025 first to Washington

And anyone can have the rest of Dallas’ 2nds?

Full MLE opened for DJJ and Luka guards the worst player on court at all times?

I like this much more... Caruso and saving to be able to sign DJJ is all I would like... ideally send some extra SRP and canned O-Max..?.. The boy has been under the radar, since he has spent the entire year in the G league, but his development is going even better than expected, I think many Dallas fans are excited about the boy

Yeah, Prosper is an interesting prospect though very raw and more of a scratch off ticket?

I think it would cost “everything” to get both Caruso and Ayo. But think it’s worth everything. Find a vet min forward you’re not afraid of playing 8-10 mpg and really have a nice group..