Trae Young moves

[JKiddy]

I guess if Mitchell goes to BK I can see Trae going to the Lakers if they trade off of Reaves and their 1st in 2029 with another pick and/or player to match salary (if they either rebuild or build around Murray instead).

[shakes0]

I guess if Mitchell goes to BK I can see Trae going to the Lakers if they trade off of Reaves and their 1st in 2029 with another pick and/or player to match salary (if they either rebuild or build around Murray instead).

gonna cost A LOT more than Reaves and 2 distant FRPs.

[JKiddy]

I guess if Mitchell goes to BK I can see Trae going to the Lakers if they trade off of Reaves and their 1st in 2029 with another pick and/or player to match salary (if they either rebuild or build around Murray instead).

gonna cost A LOT more than Reaves and 2 distant FRPs.

I agree. This is why the Nets can be in the driver's seat if they want to.

This is why they kept Bridges. They believe that with their Grade A draft assets and their supporting cast they can entice a start to come to BK. It has happened in the past. It will happen again.

[docholliday99]

Imho, I think Atlanta should build around Trae. Keep him, Johnson and OO while moving on from Murray, BogBog plus Capela's expiring, and whatever other player they need to move to add pieces.

If the Hawk's FO really did want to move on from Trae, (and I'm sure this has been said), I think the ultimate pairing for him would be Wemby. Spurs could easily package 4 frps but the hitch in that deal is Atlanta would want a player or 2 coming back that has upside. Picks are great but they're just gambles and for the few warts that Trae has, players like him don't come around often.

[Netaman]

Imho, I think Atlanta should build around Trae. Keep him, Johnson and OO while moving on from Murray, BogBog plus Capela's expiring, and whatever other player they need to move to add pieces.

If the Hawk's FO really did want to move on from Trae, (and I'm sure this has been said), I think the ultimate pairing for him would be Wemby. Spurs could easily package 4 frps but the hitch in that deal is Atlanta would want a player or 2 coming back that has upside. Picks are great but they're just gambles and for the few warts that Trae has, players like him don't come around often.

i think that's what they were trying to do over the last few months but had no takers beyond the LAL offer (JHS, 1x FRP).

I think they probably made no deal thinking in the Summer a bunch of teams get access to more tradeable draft picks (including LAL).

It does sound like they are also willing to consider moving Trae - who would presumably bring back a bigger return and allow them to put Murray back in his natural position.

No idea which way the Hawks end up going, but i think in the summer it is probably a choice between keeping Trae but selling low on Murray or keeping Murray and getting a bigger return from Trae.

[Ball4life32]

Imho, I think Atlanta should build around Trae. Keep him, Johnson and OO while moving on from Murray, BogBog plus Capela's expiring, and whatever other player they need to move to add pieces.

If the Hawk's FO really did want to move on from Trae, (and I'm sure this has been said), I think the ultimate pairing for him would be Wemby. Spurs could easily package 4 frps but the hitch in that deal is Atlanta would want a player or 2 coming back that has upside. Picks are great but they're just gambles and for the few warts that Trae has, players like him don't come around often.

i think that's what they were trying to do over the last few months but had no takers beyond the LAL offer (JHS, 1x FRP).

I think they probably made no deal thinking in the Summer a bunch of teams get access to more tradeable draft picks (including LAL).

It does sound like they are also willing to consider moving Trae - who would presumably bring back a bigger return and allow them to put Murray back in his natural position.

No idea which way the Hawks end up going, but i think in the summer it is probably a choice between keeping Trae but selling low on Murray or keeping Murray and getting a bigger return from Trae.

Still have a hard time believing that was the best offer for Murray. I would be shocked if they trade Trae but don’t think they sell low on Murray either.

[Fencer reregistered]

I think Brooklyn and San Antonio have the best package (OKC makes no sense, the fit is terrible).
But the main target for Brooklyn is Mitchell. I would guess that the Spurs are bidding against themselves or some other team will overpay massively.
Dark horse: Boston offering Jaylen Brown for Young + fillers

That would be a remarkable change from the current Celtics roster vision. Danny Ainge acquired ball-dominant PGs who were lousy defenders. Brad Stevens hasn't done anything close to that.

[Fencer reregistered]

Brooklyn goes all in.

Cam Thomas
Ben Simmons expiring
Suns ‘25 1st
Suns ‘27
Suns ‘29
Mavs ‘29
76ers ‘27

Maybe more if needed.

WTF no! Is Trae MJ in his prime? COME ON MAN! All Suns picks would not be in a trade for anyone not named Luka, Jokic, Wemby, or maybe Embiid.

That's less than the package that got KD.

[kds92]

Return ATLs picks (2025, 2026 swap, 2027), Spurs 2025 1st (top 3 protected), Chicago's 2025 1st (top 10 protected), and maybe one other future Spurs 1st (2026) or swap rights down the road (2028) + whatever filler they want (Keldon, Jones, etc. Sochan/Vassell I would not part with yet). That's basically 5 picks, swap rights, and young players for Young. I think that's a pretty good offer, especially if Young wants to play in SA with Wemby

I think 5 firsts + swaps is too much. As you said, the Hawks' firsts hold more weight than traditional firsts so I think the Spurs can get away with just 3 firsts and 2 swaps: SAS 2025 1st, ATL 2025 1st, ATL 2027 1st, ATL 2026 swap return, 2028 SAS swap along with Keldon, Sochan, fillers.

[TimDunkin]

Return ATLs picks (2025, 2026 swap, 2027), Spurs 2025 1st (top 3 protected), Chicago's 2025 1st (top 10 protected), and maybe one other future Spurs 1st (2026) or swap rights down the road (2028) + whatever filler they want (Keldon, Jones, etc. Sochan/Vassell I would not part with yet). That's basically 5 picks, swap rights, and young players for Young. I think that's a pretty good offer, especially if Young wants to play in SA with Wemby

I think 5 firsts + swaps is too much. As you said, the Hawks' firsts hold more weight than traditional firsts so I think the Spurs can get away with just 3 firsts and 2 swaps: SAS 2025 1st, ATL 2025 1st, ATL 2027 1st, ATL 2026 swap return, 2028 SAS swap along with Keldon, Sochan, fillers.

I am one of the Spurs fans that really would like to get Trae, but I don't want to trade Vassell or Sochan to get him. He's certainly worth it, but there's no need to put forth a massive offer. Push comes to shove, the Spurs keep building through the draft (hoping the Hawks trade Trae elsewhere and bottom out for their 2025 pick) and make moves later when they have an actual shot at contending.

[Ball4life32]

Return ATLs picks (2025, 2026 swap, 2027), Spurs 2025 1st (top 3 protected), Chicago's 2025 1st (top 10 protected), and maybe one other future Spurs 1st (2026) or swap rights down the road (2028) + whatever filler they want (Keldon, Jones, etc. Sochan/Vassell I would not part with yet). That's basically 5 picks, swap rights, and young players for Young. I think that's a pretty good offer, especially if Young wants to play in SA with Wemby

I think 5 firsts + swaps is too much. As you said, the Hawks' firsts hold more weight than traditional firsts so I think the Spurs can get away with just 3 firsts and 2 swaps: SAS 2025 1st, ATL 2025 1st, ATL 2027 1st, ATL 2026 swap return, 2028 SAS swap along with Keldon, Sochan, fillers.

I am one of the Spurs fans that really would like to get Trae, but I don't want to trade Vassell or Sochan to get him. He's certainly worth it, but there's no need to put forth a massive offer. Push comes to shove, the Spurs keep building through the draft (hoping the Hawks trade Trae elsewhere and bottom out for their 2025 pick) and make moves later when they have an actual shot at contending.

I’d want Vassell over Keldon or Sochan. Either way no chance hawks are bottoming/tanking without their picks.

[esvl]

Anybody mentioned Detroit already?

[enzino]

PELICANS: Young for Ingram, Jones, 24 & 25 FRP (currently #21)

I have Ingram better than Young

[Wolveswin]

PELICANS: Young for Ingram, Jones, 24 & 25 FRP (currently #21)

I have Ingram better than Young

Ingram is not worth more than Young.

[NYG]

Is it possible Trae requests a trade at this point too?

[jayu70]

Is it possible Trae requests a trade at this point too?

All the whispers and rumblings around the ATL suggest No currently. He's a Quin believer and vice versa with Quin and him.
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[basketballwacko2]

I mentioned a couple of weeks ago about the possibility of Atlanta moving Young for picks and pieces (yes some of you called my silly for it, but it looks like it might have sprouted some legs recently.

Just looking over team needs, the best places for him to land are Spurs, Pelicans, Magic. I am sure there are others, but these make a good deal of sense given the need for a PG and having significant pieces (or picks) they can move to secure Young.

SPURS: Young for Johnson, Jones, filler, Atlanta's picks returned, plus SAS 24 and 28 FRPs. 24 FRP sits at #3 at the moment.

PELICANS: Young for Ingram, Jones, 24 & 25 FRP (currently #21)

MAGIC: Young for F. Wagner, Isaacs, Okeke, Howard, 24 & 25 FRP (current #16).

I don't think the Spurs will give up their 2024 #1 and the Hawks picks. That SA pick could be a top 3-4 pick.

Now Trae has an injury and will miss 4 weeks.

[HadAnEffectHere]

The Spurs first+Vassel+the Hawks picks back seem like a pretty realistic package.

I don't think there's any team outside of OKC that can beat that while maintaining their core players?

And OKC won't because they have SGA.

[basketballwacko2]

I like Young to San Antonio for their picks back plus their first this year provided it isn't 1st or 2nd. I would love to see Young/Wemby for the next 10 years.

I think the only way they trade Young is if the Spurs want him and are willing to trade the Hawks picks and Swap back to them as part of a package.

[wemby]

With the packages being thrown around here, you'd expect the Hawks to crumble without a player that is worth all of that. If they don't... well, maybe it's an indication he's not really that important to the team's success after all.