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Simple trade: Heat/Wiz (Heat duck the tax)

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:25 am
by mhd
Simple deal:

Wiz trade Shamet(can be waived immediately so that his deal is non-gauranteed)+Davis (expiring unless Miami wants to pick up his option)+26 to Miami for Duncan Robinson (expiring)+15

Why for Miami?
1). Ducks the tax while moving down 11 spots in this draft.

Why for the Wizards?
1). Move up in the draft while not adding any extra years in future salary commitments.

Re: Simple trade: Heat/Wiz (Heat duck the tax)

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:37 am
by jayjaysee
If Shamet is used in a trade, his matching salary is guaranteed. Similar to Chris Paul last year l.

I’d guess Miami would rather get paid to dump Herro than pay to dump Robinson. And think there’s teams that would give up cap space (or trade an expiring to a cap space team) for Robinson.

Re: Simple trade: Heat/Wiz (Heat duck the tax)

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:49 am
by mhd
jayjaysee wrote:If Shamet is used in a trade, his matching salary is guaranteed. Similar to Chris Paul last year l.

I’d guess Miami would rather get paid to dump Herro than pay to dump Robinson. And think there’s teams that would give up cap space (or trade an expiring to a cap space team) for Robinson.



Ah, cool. Didn't know know that. Thought that provision transferred over since the Wiz have until June 29 to either keep him or waive him for no money.

Re: Simple trade: Heat/Wiz (Heat duck the tax)

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:55 am
by BBallFreak
Even if this were possible I wouldn't touch it. Why would we pay to dump Robinson when teams will actually give up value?

Re: Simple trade: Heat/Wiz (Heat duck the tax)

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:00 pm
by jayjaysee
mhd wrote:
jayjaysee wrote:If Shamet is used in a trade, his matching salary is guaranteed. Similar to Chris Paul last year l.

I’d guess Miami would rather get paid to dump Herro than pay to dump Robinson. And think there’s teams that would give up cap space (or trade an expiring to a cap space team) for Robinson.



Ah, cool. Didn't know know that. Thought that provision transferred over since the Wiz have until June 29 to either keep him or waive him for no money.


I’m far from expert. But I think it’s the same since CP’s guarantee date was 6/28, once used in matching it’s guaranteed. So maybe all of his contract wouldn’t have to be guaranteed since Davis is involved

Re: Simple trade: Heat/Wiz (Heat duck the tax)

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 12:48 pm
by Astaluego
I would bring Magic here... (Heat keeps Duncan) Brother to Magic.. they get the scorer they need...

Kuzma... the Heat save a few dollars, while they get a 3 option in a position they need the most, by getting bigger..

. WCJ to the Wizards.. (I have the Wizards taking Sarr)...they form a super complementary frontcourt, with Avdija/Coulibali on the wings and Poole on guard

Re: Simple trade: Heat/Wiz (Heat duck the tax)

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:38 pm
by louc1970
The move that helps both teams out is:
Cleveland sending Mitchell/Filler to Miami for Herro/Robinson/Filler

Cleveland gets outside shooters that spread the floor for Garland to drive and Allen/Mobley to operate inside. Seems Cleveland has been trying to get the outside shooters in place for a while.

Miami with Mitchell as the primary scorer reduces the pressure on Butler (as he ages).

Re: Simple trade: Heat/Wiz (Heat duck the tax)

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 5:07 pm
by theBigLip
Detroit has a lot of cap space and needs shooting more than any team in the league. We could just absorb him for a 2nd rounder.

Re: Simple trade: Heat/Wiz (Heat duck the tax)

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 5:47 pm
by Scoot McGroot
jayjaysee wrote:
mhd wrote:
jayjaysee wrote:If Shamet is used in a trade, his matching salary is guaranteed. Similar to Chris Paul last year l.

I’d guess Miami would rather get paid to dump Herro than pay to dump Robinson. And think there’s teams that would give up cap space (or trade an expiring to a cap space team) for Robinson.



Ah, cool. Didn't know know that. Thought that provision transferred over since the Wiz have until June 29 to either keep him or waive him for no money.


I’m far from expert. But I think it’s the same since CP’s guarantee date was 6/28, once used in matching it’s guaranteed. So maybe all of his contract wouldn’t have to be guaranteed since Davis is involved


Once a season is over a players salary used in terms of legal matching is the lesser of his current salary or guaranteed salary int he following year. In this case, Shamet has $0 guaranteed, so he’d count as $0 in salary matching.

For each Chris Paul trade last year, Phoenix and then Washington each had to guarantee more of his salary in order to make those trades legally work.

Re: Simple trade: Heat/Wiz (Heat duck the tax)

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 12:48 am
by nate33
Bad move for the Wizards. They are paying $25M to move up 11 spots in a weak draft. They'll get better value auctioning off their cap room elsewhere.

Re: Simple trade: Heat/Wiz (Heat duck the tax)

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:38 am
by Hoops23
Thats not the kind of deal Miami will trade its 2024 FRP.

Re: Simple trade: Heat/Wiz (Heat duck the tax)

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:45 am
by Colbinii
Seems terrible for Miami.