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LaMelo for Sengun

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:21 pm
by zimpy27
Rockets get LaMelo, Mark Williams

Hornets get Sengun, FVV



LaMelo, Amen, Green, Jabari, Mark --- Holiday, Brooks, Cam, Tari, Landale

FVV, Smith, Miles, Miller, Sengun --- Mann, Micic, Martin, GWill, Richards



Do both teams like this?

Re: LaMelo for Sengun

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:29 pm
by LarsV8
That is tough with Ball always being injured.

And FVV is more than a throw in.

Re: LaMelo for Sengun

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:38 pm
by zimpy27
LarsV8 wrote:That is tough with Ball always being injured.

And FVV is more than a throw in.



Yeah that's why Mark WIliams is in the trade. It is a tough trade I agree, trying to feel it out by posting on here to get people's thoughts.

Re: LaMelo for Sengun

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:40 pm
by Godaddycurse
LarsV8 wrote:That is tough with Ball always being injured.

And FVV is more than a throw in.


FVV at 43 M is not positive value

Re: LaMelo for Sengun

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:48 pm
by LarsV8
Godaddycurse wrote:
FVV at 43 M is not positive value


FVV has been exceptional for us, been worth every penny.

If he isn't valued positively, more than happy to swap him for other neutral money.

Re: LaMelo for Sengun

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:48 pm
by Colbinii
Godaddycurse wrote:
LarsV8 wrote:That is tough with Ball always being injured.

And FVV is more than a throw in.


FVV at 43 M is not positive value


He isn't negative either, which means Houston would need to get positive value in order to trade him.

Re: LaMelo for Sengun

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:50 pm
by Godaddycurse
Colbinii wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
LarsV8 wrote:That is tough with Ball always being injured.

And FVV is more than a throw in.


FVV at 43 M is not positive value


He isn't negative either, which means Houston would need to get positive value in order to trade him.


tobias Harris was negative for being a decent to good player paid a max. FVV is negative too imo (to other teams). Houston should just use landale/green/adams etc as filler

Re: LaMelo for Sengun

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:51 pm
by Colbinii
Godaddycurse wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
FVV at 43 M is not positive value


He isn't negative either, which means Houston would need to get positive value in order to trade him.


tobias Harris was negative for being a decent to good player paid a max. FVV is negative top imo (to other teams)


I think many teams would add 40 Million in useless salary AND value to acquire FVV.

I didn't have Harris as negative value this year and I don't have an expiring FVV as negative either.

Re: LaMelo for Sengun

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:57 pm
by Godaddycurse
Colbinii wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
He isn't negative either, which means Houston would need to get positive value in order to trade him.


tobias Harris was negative for being a decent to good player paid a max. FVV is negative top imo (to other teams)


I think many teams would add 40 Million in useless salary AND value to acquire FVV.

I didn't have Harris as negative value this year and I don't have an expiring FVV as negative either.


Not many teams have 40M in useless salaries to want to devote to a non star PG. I def can't see the capspace team giving up additional value fpr him

Re: LaMelo for Sengun

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 11:59 pm
by Colbinii
Godaddycurse wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
tobias Harris was negative for being a decent to good player paid a max. FVV is negative top imo (to other teams)


I think many teams would add 40 Million in useless salary AND value to acquire FVV.

I didn't have Harris as negative value this year and I don't have an expiring FVV as negative either.


Not many teams have 40M in useless salaries to want to devote to a non star PG. I def can't see the capspace team giving up additional value fpr him


They should if they want to win games :lol:

Re: LaMelo for Sengun

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 12:00 am
by K_chile22
Godaddycurse wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
tobias Harris was negative for being a decent to good player paid a max. FVV is negative top imo (to other teams)


I think many teams would add 40 Million in useless salary AND value to acquire FVV.

I didn't have Harris as negative value this year and I don't have an expiring FVV as negative either.


Not many teams have 40M in useless salaries to want to devote to a non star PG. I def can't see the capspace team giving up additional value fpr him
Orlando would and should if he were available in that kind of deal (he's not). San Antonio too if they wanted to win more next year but they may not. Guy was top 20 in epm this year and probably the biggest reason a 20 win team won 41 the next year


As for OP I find lamelo to not be someone I want on my favorite team even before thinking about the constant injuries

Re: LaMelo for Sengun

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:00 am
by Xman
Do the deal. Add value to get Sarr.
Pg. LaMelo
Sg. JGreen
SF. Brooks
Pf. Jabari
C. Sarr
Bench - would be five guys starting for some teams.
Amen, Whitmore, Eason, Williams.

Re: LaMelo for Sengun

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:01 am
by Xman
Vleet would be a gift for SA.

Re: LaMelo for Sengun

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:05 am
by JustBuzzin
zimpy27 wrote:
LarsV8 wrote:That is tough with Ball always being injured.

And FVV is more than a throw in.



Yeah that's why Mark WIliams is in the trade. It is a tough trade I agree, trying to feel it out by posting on here to get people's thoughts.

Shhhh don't tell them about the Melo ankles and Mark back issues. :D

Re: LaMelo for Sengun

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:21 am
by Godaddycurse
K_chile22 wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
Colbinii wrote:
I think many teams would add 40 Million in useless salary AND value to acquire FVV.

I didn't have Harris as negative value this year and I don't have an expiring FVV as negative either.


Not many teams have 40M in useless salaries to want to devote to a non star PG. I def can't see the capspace team giving up additional value fpr him
Orlando would and should if he were available in that kind of deal (he's not). San Antonio too if they wanted to win more next year but they may not. Guy was top 20 in epm this year and probably the biggest reason a 20 win team won 41 the next year


As for OP I find lamelo to not be someone I want on my favorite team even before thinking about the constant injuries


He was already/always an analytic darling in Toronto. Didnt make him worth anywhere near the contract that houston handed out.

Re: LaMelo for Sengun

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 1:27 am
by Colbinii
Godaddycurse wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:
Godaddycurse wrote:
Not many teams have 40M in useless salaries to want to devote to a non star PG. I def can't see the capspace team giving up additional value fpr him
Orlando would and should if he were available in that kind of deal (he's not). San Antonio too if they wanted to win more next year but they may not. Guy was top 20 in epm this year and probably the biggest reason a 20 win team won 41 the next year


As for OP I find lamelo to not be someone I want on my favorite team even before thinking about the constant injuries


He was already/always an analytic darling in Toronto. Didnt make him worth anywhere near the contract that houston handed out.


I mean it doesn't really matter what he is worth in a vacuum, he is the best thing multiple teams with cap space could do, just like he was last year for Houston.

I know we have had these discussions before, but Orlando would love to have him for one year and keep flexibility in 2025 Free Agency before they need to extend Paolo and Wagner.

Re: LaMelo for Sengun

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:05 am
by HornetJail
not remotely interested from Charlotte's perspective. If the Hornets were to accept this trade, it can only mean his ankle is completely toast

Re: LaMelo for Sengun

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:31 am
by wolves_89
I'd rate Ball as the most valuable piece in the deal due to having the highest long-term upside. For the Hornets, I'd just keep the Ball/Miller/M Williams core together and see how next season plays out.

Re: LaMelo for Sengun

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:03 am
by One_and_Done
So you're trading 2 overrated guys for each over is my read. I've seen worse proposals.

Re: LaMelo for Sengun

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 10:21 am
by Kiss of Death
I know this is just RealGM Fantasyland, but I seriously doubt the Rockets consider trading Sengun. Certainly not for that package. And FVV is not just a salary throw in.