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1. Run the lottery (https://tankathon.com/)
2. Do a lottery mock with trades
3. Post your results

FYI... I took the average of the draft rankings on ESPN, The Ringer and NBADraft.net and this is the top 30 as a result...

Rank / Player Name / ESPN Pos. / Height / The Ringer Style Comp

1 Alex Sarr PF 7'1 Jaren Jackson Jr./Jonathan Isaac
2 Zaccharie Risacher SF 6'10 Michael Porter Jr.
3 Dalton Knecht SF 6'6 Kentavious Caldwell-Pope/Max Strus
4 Matas Buzelis SF 6'10 Lamar Odom
5 Reed Sheppard SG 6'3 Derrick White
6 Robert Dillingham PG 6'2 Lou Williams/Bones Hyland
7 Stephon Castle PG 6'6 Markelle Fultz/Anthony Black
8 Cody Williams SF 6'8 Jalen Rose
9 Donovan Clingan C 7'2 Roy Hibbert
10 Nikola Topic PG 6'7 Goran Dragic
11 Ja'Kobe Walter SG 6'5 Khris Middleton
12 Ron Holland SF 6'7 Harrison Barnes/Josh Jackson
13 Isaiah Collier PG 6'4 Tyreke Evans/Emmanuel Mudiay
14 Tidjane Salaun PF 6'10 Chandler Parsons
15 Devin Carter PG 6'3 Bruce Brown
16 Jared McCain PG 6'3 Seth Curry
17 Tristan Da Silva SF 6'9 Kyle Anderson
18 Tyler Smith SF 6'10 Charlies Villanueva
19 Kyshawn George SG 6'8 Joe Ingles
20 Yves Missi C 6'11 Jalen Duren
21 Kyle Filipowski PF 7'0 Zach Collins
22 Zach Edey C 7'4 Ivica Zubac
23 Carlton Carrington PG 6'5 Lou Williams
24 Kel'el Ware C 7'0 Myles Turner
25 Kevin McCullar SF 6'7 Nic Batum/Bruce Brown
26 Terrence Shannon SG 6'7 Tyreke Evans
27 Johnny Furphy SG 6'9 Cam Johnson/Doug McDermott
28 Bobi Klintman SF 6'10 Jared Dudley/Channing Frye
29 Mark Sears PG 6'0 Jalen Brunson
30 Tyler Kolek PG 6'3 Jalen Brunson/Goran Dragic

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/
https://www.nbadraft.net/ranking/bigboard/
https://www.espn.com/nba/draft/bestavailable

Kelly Olynyk, 17th Overall and 31st Overall for Ziaire Williams, Derrick Rose and 9th Overall
10th Overall Pick for 16th Overall Pick and Lower of Nuggets/Magic 2025 1st

1. Atlanta Hawks - Alex Sarr
2. Washington Wizards - Dalton Knecht
3. Charlotte Hornets - Zaccharie Risacher
4. Sacramento Kings - Matas Buzelis
5. Detroit Pistons - Cody Williams
6. Portland Trail Blazers - Donovan Clingan
7. San Antonio Spurs - Reed Sheppard
8. San Antonio Spurs (via Toronto Raptors) - Ron Holland
*-9. Toronto Raptors (via Memphis Grizzlies) - Ja'Kobe Walter
*-10. Orlando Magic (via Utah Jazz) - Robert Dillingham
11. Houston Rockets (via Brooklyn Nets) - Stephon Castle
12. Chicago Bulls - Tidjane Salaun
13. Oklahoma City Thunder (via Houston Rockets) - Zach Edey
14. Portland Trail Blazers (via Golden State Warriors) - Nikola Topic

Any reason why you have Topic so low? He's the most skilled passer and playmaker in the draft, I don't think he slips past 5

OP said they were using an average of 3 mocks from different sites:

ESPN is pay only
Ringer has Topic 3rd
NBA draft.net has Topic 14th, like NYG

Detroit landed 4 or 5 an alarming amount of times I clicked

NYG wrote:Kelly Olynyk, 17th Overall and 31st Overall for Ziaire Williams, Derrick Rose and 9th Overall

So Kelly O was traded for half the value of pick 29 this year (Ochai the other half), but now him and 31 are worth moving from 17 to 9. Kelly O hasn't had this value since the day he was drafted and I cannot fathom any team downgrading a lottery pick for him. I would peg his trade value still close to a very late 1st/expiring at best. He is not someone that I would be targeting for Memphis with any serious assets.

psman2 wrote:

NYG wrote:Kelly Olynyk, 17th Overall and 31st Overall for Ziaire Williams, Derrick Rose and 9th Overall

So Kelly O was traded for half the value of pick 29 this year (Ochai the other half), but is now he and 31 worth moving from 17 to 9. Kelly O hasn't had this value since the day he was drafted and I cannot fathom any team downgrading a lottery pick for him. I would peg his trade value still close to a very late 1st/expiring at best. He is not someone that I would be targeting for Memphis with any serious assets.

It was mostly point guards on the board so I kind of forced a big to Memphis

https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/draft_simulator/view/1039480/

No trades:

1. Charlotte - Sarr
2. Atlanta - Risacher
3. Portland - Buzelis
4. Memphis - Clingan
5. Detroit - Sheppard
6. Washington - Topic
7. San Antonio - Salaun
8. San Antonio - Knect
9. Utah - Cody Williams
10. Houston - Holland
11. Chicago - Castle
12. OKC - George
13. Portland - Missi
14. Sacramento - Dillingham

NYG wrote:

psman2 wrote:

NYG wrote:Kelly Olynyk, 17th Overall and 31st Overall for Ziaire Williams, Derrick Rose and 9th Overall

So Kelly O was traded for half the value of pick 29 this year (Ochai the other half), but is now he and 31 worth moving from 17 to 9. Kelly O hasn't had this value since the day he was drafted and I cannot fathom any team downgrading a lottery pick for him. I would peg his trade value still close to a very late 1st/expiring at best. He is not someone that I would be targeting for Memphis with any serious assets.

It was mostly point guards on the board so I kind of forced a big to Memphis

Luckily we have plenty of avenues to take BPA and address our frontcourt needs via free agency and other trades that don't involve our lottery pick. Ideally a frontcourt player will be at the top of our draft board when we pick, but I don't think we have to force a move like this. Plus Kelly O is really not what we need the most out of a big, he would be a upgrade over Aldama while playing a similar style but not some big need here.

amcoolio wrote:Any reason why you have Topic so low? He's the most skilled passer and playmaker in the draft, I don't think he slips past 5

I thought the same thing. No way Topic is getting past SAS.
I must just see players differently. I think Knecht is too high. Edey is late first pick at best. Reed should be in the lower part to possibly just outside the lottery.

penbeast0 wrote:OP said they were using an average of 3 mocks from different sites:

ESPN is pay only
Ringer has Topic 3rd
NBA draft.net has Topic 14th, like NYG

https://www.nbadraft.net/ranking/bigboard/

Topic is 17th on NBADraft.net... he's 5th on ESPN

psman2 wrote:

NYG wrote:Kelly Olynyk, 17th Overall and 31st Overall for Ziaire Williams, Derrick Rose and 9th Overall

So Kelly O was traded for half the value of pick 29 this year (Ochai the other half), but is now he and 31 worth moving from 17 to 9. Kelly O hasn't had this value since the day he was drafted and I cannot fathom any team downgrading a lottery pick for him. I would peg his trade value still close to a very late 1st/expiring at best. He is not someone that I would be targeting for Memphis with any serious assets.

I’d rather have the 17th and the 31st than the 9th in this particular draft. Not even convinced you can’t find a better player at either pick.

The third tier goes through pick 58 IMO.

I think the Memphis deal could work as 17 and “later of Indy/Toronto 2026 firsts” with some complicated protection/verbiage about if pick conveys to SAS.

NYG wrote:

penbeast0 wrote:OP said they were using an average of 3 mocks from different sites:

ESPN is pay only
Ringer has Topic 3rd
NBA draft.net has Topic 14th, like NYG

https://www.nbadraft.net/ranking/bigboard/

Topic is 17th on NBADraft.net... he's 5th on ESPN

Those were what a quick search came up with, maybe different dates on the NBAdraft.net mock. Terrence Shannon at #5?

1. Charlotte Hornets - Alex Sarr
2. San Antonio Spurs - Zaccharie Risacher
3. Detroit Pistons - Dalton Knecht
4. Chicago Bulls - Matas Buzelis
5. Washington Wizards - Reed Sheppard
6. Portland Trail Blazers - Donovan Clingan
7. San Antonio Spurs (via Toronto Raptors) - Nikola Topic
8. Memphis Grizzlies - Cody Williams
9. Utah Jazz - Stephon Castle
10. Houston Rockets (via Brooklyn Nets) - Robert Dillingham
11. Atlanta Hawks - Ron Holland
12. Oklahoma City Thunder (via Houston Rockets) - Tidjane Salaun
13. Sacramento Kings - Ja'Kobe Walter
14. Portland Trail Blazers (via Golden State Warriors) - Tristan Da Silva

As far as veterans traded for strictly 2024 draft picks, who are the most likely on the table?

I know this is going to sound homerish but ran tankathon and Toronto got #1 the top 14 was this

1) Toronto Alexander Sarr - gives them exactly what they need
2) Memphis - Clingan seems like the choice for Memphis & creates a great fit with JJJ
3) Portland - Risacher the best non guard prospect
4) Detroit - Buzelis they are like Portland both teams don't need a guard could see a trade down
5) Charlotte - Nikola Topic creates a two headed guard monster with Ball
6) Washington - Reed Sheppard Washington needs a guard of the future and this is it
7) San Antonio - Dillingham it's clear San Antonio needs a point guard and Dillingham is it
8) Utah - Ron Holland - BPA and fits their core
9) Houston - Cody Williams seem like they would be happy with him
10) Atlanta - Dalton Knecht - Atlanta needs a SF with size Knecht is that
11) Chicago - Stephon Castle only if DeRozan or LaVine are gone
12) OKC - Zach Eddy - don't need any guards or wings and Eddy could work with Chet
13) Miami - Tyler Smith seems like the best player available
14) Portland - Ja'Kobe Walter BPA and a good backup guard incase they move Simons

Mr Swagtastic wrote:10) Atlanta - Dalton Knecht - Atlanta needs a SF with size Knecht is that

Hawks SFs this season were Hunter at 6'-8" and Bey at 6'-7". Hawks need size AND defense on the wings.

jayu70 wrote:

Mr Swagtastic wrote:10) Atlanta - Dalton Knecht - Atlanta needs a SF with size Knecht is that

Hawks SFs this season were Hunter at 6'-8" and Bey at 6'-7". Hawks need size AND defense on the wings.

Damn I guess I forgot to to paste my reasoning for Atlanta. Bey is a RFA and I think he might get signed to a offer sheet Atlanta can't match. My reasoning said if Bey signs elsewhere or Hunter it's traded. I think Knecht is the pick if he's there unless Atlanta wants Ja'Kobe Walter as yet another guard

Mr Swagtastic wrote:

jayu70 wrote:

Mr Swagtastic wrote:10) Atlanta - Dalton Knecht - Atlanta needs a SF with size Knecht is that

Hawks SFs this season were Hunter at 6'-8" and Bey at 6'-7". Hawks need size AND defense on the wings.

Damn I guess I forgot to to paste my reasoning for Atlanta. Bey is a RFA and I think he might get signed to a offer sheet Atlanta can't match. My reasoning said if Bey signs elsewhere or Hunter it's traded. I think Knecht is the pick if he's there unless Atlanta wants Ja'Kobe Walter as yet another guard

Bey is out with a torn ACL, so there's no offer sheet Hawks won't match coming.
6'-6" is not ideal SF size on a Hawks team featuring Young. Hawks need to get better size, defense and athleticism in the front court - that was the biggest issue this past season. If anything Knecht could be a Bogi replacement, but again another player with defensive issues.