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This trade is just an idea. It is not meant to tell any fanbase what trades they should make. Just an idea of one. Presumes Kings have not moved up in the lottery.

Harry Barnes
Vezenkov
Rights to 24 Kings pick (Kings pick on Blazers behalf) -- currently 13th

for

Grant
#34
#40

Blazers cash out, reduce payroll so they don't have to dump Thybulle, and pick up a 3rd lottery pick. I know this draft is getting killed and I know they'd prefer a future pick, but deals have to work for both teams and asking the Kings to tie up another pick feels unrealistic to me. There is maybe the potential of sending Barnes to say Charlotte or Detroit and saving even more money or perhaps trading him for a worse deal and another minor asset.

Kings upgrade a spot of need at the cost of their lottery pick. They do pick up a couple good 2nds to try and still add some youth to the team.

Edit: Not sure Portland actually saves that much payroll once the rookie contract is factored in. So sorry for overselling that aspect of this deal. My brain clearly cramped a bit.

Works for me.

Downgrade talent to upgrade pick and HB is adequate for now.

The top of this draft is unimpressive but this is another chance to draft a keeper.

I like it.

holy **** JRoy liked my trade. I feel like I need to just walk out of the room George Constanza style now. (yes I'm old, sorry kids for the very dated reference).

Yep, I’m in for Portland as well.

Texas Chuck wrote:holy **** JRoy liked my trade. I feel like I need to just walk out of the room George Constanza style now. (yes I'm old, sorry kids for the very dated reference).

Seinfeld is old? It only started in the 1980s… oh I see now.

Blazers should be chipping in a bit more here. Grant fits well with the Kings but given his contract I don't think anybody's going to be heartbroken if they lose out on him.

Portland should pull the trigger without hesitation

This draft thanks to a deep upperclassman group is supposed to be really solid between 10-20.

I'd be fine with adding guys like De Silva and Salaun with Portland's two late lottery picks and
they could do BPA at 4.

HornetJail wrote:Blazers should be chipping in a bit more here.

I kinda felt like that too, but I couldn't find a really simple solution I liked. Didn't want to expand the deal player wise too much and felt like adding future 2nds was too cute. Finally decided that the Kings are getting the best player and at a position of real need and just left it.

But open to ideas on how to fix that.

Texas Chuck wrote:

HornetJail wrote:Blazers should be chipping in a bit more here.

I kinda felt like that too, but I couldn't find a really simple solution I liked. Didn't want to expand the deal player wise too much and felt like adding future 2nds was too cute. Finally decided that the Kings are getting the best player and at a position of real need and just left it.

But open to ideas on how to fix that.

add thybulle for fillers

Godaddycurse wrote:

Texas Chuck wrote:

HornetJail wrote:Blazers should be chipping in a bit more here.

I kinda felt like that too, but I couldn't find a really simple solution I liked. Didn't want to expand the deal player wise too much and felt like adding future 2nds was too cute. Finally decided that the Kings are getting the best player and at a position of real need and just left it.

But open to ideas on how to fix that.

add thybulle for fillers

Considered this. But I know the valuations on Thybulle are widely varied and I didn't want a deal focused on Grant derailed by arguments over him. But if you told me Thybulle/filler from Sacramento went in and the Blazers kept a 2nd or two, I would agree its a good fix.

Sacramento fans seem interested in Kris Murray. Would he be what is needed in this type of deal?

I’d add Duop Reath and keep #40, if that works for SAC.

Rather trade Huerter instead of barnes which I think management would want as well and sign a guard with the MLE

Texas Chuck wrote:

HornetJail wrote:Blazers should be chipping in a bit more here.

I kinda felt like that too, but I couldn't find a really simple solution I liked. Didn't want to expand the deal player wise too much and felt like adding future 2nds was too cute. Finally decided that the Kings are getting the best player and at a position of real need and just left it.

But open to ideas on how to fix that.

I think the Blazers could accept a bit later pick. Potentially a 3rd team in the late teens that gives some incentive to Kings to move up. Kings keep the extra incentive for themselves and ship the late teens pick to Portland.

I think it's fine as is, early 2nds in a weak draft is probably preferable for some teams due to contract options. Add in Grant and it feels equal.

Texas Chuck wrote:

HornetJail wrote:Blazers should be chipping in a bit more here.

I kinda felt like that too, but I couldn't find a really simple solution I liked. Didn't want to expand the deal player wise too much and felt like adding future 2nds was too cute. Finally decided that the Kings are getting the best player and at a position of real need and just left it.

But open to ideas on how to fix that.

Portland Trail Blazers get:
Sasha Vezenkov
Chris Duarte
Kevin Huerter
13th Overall Draft Pick

Sacramento Kings get:
Jerami Grant
Kris Murray
Duop Reath
34th Overall Draft Pick

Possibly with Vezenkov and 40 to Team X for the savings?

Texas Chuck wrote:This trade is just an idea. It is not meant to tell any fanbase what trades they should make. Just an idea of one. Presumes Kings have not moved up in the lottery.

Harry Barnes
Vezenkov
Rights to 24 Kings pick (Kings pick on Blazers behalf) -- currently 13th

for

Grant
#34
#40

Blazers cash out, reduce payroll so they don't have to dump Thybulle, and pick up a 3rd lottery pick. I know this draft is getting killed and I know they'd prefer a future pick, but deals have to work for both teams and asking the Kings to tie up another pick feels unrealistic to me. There is maybe the potential of sending Barnes to say Charlotte or Detroit and saving even more money or perhaps trading him for a worse deal and another minor asset.

Kings upgrade a spot of need at the cost of their lottery pick. They do pick up a couple good 2nds to try and still add some youth to the team.

Edit: Not sure Portland actually saves that much payroll once the rookie contract is factored in. So sorry for overselling that aspect of this deal. My brain clearly cramped a bit.

Barnes/Huerter/Portland 25 2nd
For
Grant

Better for Sac, allows them to get a cost controlled player to pair with Grant’s salary.

Kevin Huerter
Sasha Vezenkov
Chris Duarte
#13

For

Jerami Grant
Kris Murray
#34


That leaves the Kings with…

PG - Fox / Mitchell
SG - Ellis / Monk* / Jones
SF - Murray / Barnes / Murray
PF - Grant / Lyles
C - Sabonis
Picks - #34 / #45

That starting lineup gives us a really good chance at maintaining the strong defense we saw at the end of the season while improving our chances at returning to a top offensive team because 1) you have a legit go-to scorer in Grant added to the starting lineup that can also space the floor for others & push Sabonis into a facilitator/3rd scorer role and 2) you now have two really solid bench scorers (Monk, Barnes) instead of just one like we had last year (Monk).

Zero interest in Huerter as an expensive backup.

Been discussed a lot.

Barnes + Sasha + Duarte + 13 for Kris + Grant + 2nd

That seems to work for both sides

But to add to this, I don't think the Kings are good enough to compete anytime soon. And while you may only have 20% chance of hitting an impact player at 13, id rather take that risk. We have too often traded our draft picks for bad returns (Huerter, dumping Holmes, etc..). I'm staying at 13 and hoping to hit the lotto. At worst I add another tradeable piece for the future.