Atlanta doesn’t tank. V1? Or just containment thread?

[jayjaysee]

Was going to go on a Chuck style spree but maybe it should be a poll? Or maybe just a sloppy post? Someone better than me should have done this.

Don’t like these “trade Trae because we won the lottery” threads. Atlanta feels good enough to double down.

Atlanta reasoning: try to win a title while Murray is on a nice contract..

Phoenix: Capela, Hunter, Sarr, Sac first
Atlanta: KD

Phoenix takes a huge step back but believes Sarr can develop quickly. Save a fortune, trust in Booker to keep them in play-in. Hope Beal opens his list of teams to trade and you can reset the roster completely..

Miami: Capela, Hunter, Sarr
Atlanta: Butler

Miami takes a huge step back but believes Sarr can develop quickly. Save a fortune, trust in Bam to keep them in play-in. Still ready to trade for Mitchell if it becomes an option.


For the responses?

Phoenix: Trae, Sarr
Atlanta: Booker, 22nd, 2031 Phoenix first

Phoenix resets their timeline a bit and maybe get a better fit with KD? Hope by the time KD actually declines, Sarr has developed into a secondary star for Trae.

Atlanta gets a comparable talent that’s a better fit with Murray. They get an unprotected pick from maybe the most asset limited team in the league. Trade the Sac first for Caruso, get to the second round.

[Texas Chuck]

I'm team Atlanta doesn't tank as well.

[HornetJail]

I like the Durant idea a lot. #1, SAC pick, Capela, and a couple of ATL's wings is a strong package.

I think you need to flip Murray for a better off the ball player. Add to get Mikal so.ehow?

[TheBrooklynKidd]

I agree with you. I don’t think Trae should be moved at all.

What about #1 for Ingram?

The Pelicans seem unlikely to extend him and are looking for a shake up.

I don’t think the 3 guys you mentioned are likely to be moved

[jayjaysee]

I like the Durant idea a lot. #1, SAC pick, Capela, and a couple of ATL's wings is a strong package.

I think you need to flip Murray for a better off the ball player. Add to get Mikal so.ehow?

I’d be fine starting the year Trae/Murray/Jalen/KD/OO and use MLE for a Big. Go find a strong defensive guard and feel ready to compete with anyone.

But if Bridges is available, why not?

[jayjaysee]

I agree with you. I don’t think Trae should be moved at all.

What about #1 for Ingram?

The Pelicans seem unlikely to extend him and are looking for a shake up.

I don’t think the 3 guys you mentioned are likely to be moved

If Ingram agrees to his extension, like 4yr170 I think,

Then maybe it’s Ingram and better of LAL/NOP 2025 firsts for Hunter and Sarr?

But that feels a lot worse than the other ideas.

[Godaddycurse]

I think you still have to break up murray/young even if you dont tank. Chemistry between them is just not there

[kds92]

Still feel like Lauri would be a great fit on the Hawks if they keep Trae.

Something like Lauri to ATL, DJM to LAL, and Utah gets #1, Reaves, Rui, LAL 2029 1st

[OxAndFox]

Think you need to see who is going to be able to contribute next season. If its Sarr they select he won't be an impact guy right away.
Is Bufkin, Griffin, Gueye?

I would see if Bogey has value after the season he just had and even package him and Murray.
Magic for WCJ/+ and then trade Capela for a starting level vet SG (maybe need a 3 way for Brown from Raps)
Brooklyn? Not sure for what though

[jayjaysee]

Still feel like Lauri would be a great fit on the Hawks if they keep Trae.

Something like Lauri to ATL, DJM to LAL, and Utah gets #1, Reaves, Rui, LAL 2029 1st

Feel like Lauri can’t be “number one pick” more valuable than DJM.

In a thread of number 1 pick for KD, Butler, Ingram..

[Godaddycurse]

Still feel like Lauri would be a great fit on the Hawks if they keep Trae.

Something like Lauri to ATL, DJM to LAL, and Utah gets #1, Reaves, Rui, LAL 2029 1st

Feel like Lauri can’t be “number one pick” more valuable than DJM.

In a thread of number 1 pick for KD, Butler, Ingram..

Imagine trading #1 for lauri only for him to leave in a year

[Godaddycurse]

KAT + 27 for Murray + 1? (Capela routed elsewhere)

[Wolveswin]

#1 + Capela + Hunter

FOR

Towns

Hawks owe more, or Wolves don’t do this trade.

[kds92]

Still feel like Lauri would be a great fit on the Hawks if they keep Trae.

Something like Lauri to ATL, DJM to LAL, and Utah gets #1, Reaves, Rui, LAL 2029 1st

Feel like Lauri can’t be “number one pick” more valuable than DJM.

In a thread of number 1 pick for KD, Butler, Ingram..

Even on his current deal I have Lauri as more valuable than Butler and Ingram. Maybe DJM + 1 is a little too much though - maybe Jazz send back #10 or something type of value

[kristov]

I seriously doubt Atlanta is going to pay the tax to keep this team together.

[jayjaysee]

KAT + 27 for Murray + 1? (Capela routed elsewhere)

Two KAT ideas back to back. Interesting. Doesn’t really have to include Capela if you delay it for matching? Though Capela definitely would be traded later..

I hadn’t gone with KAT considering how great the team is doing and should do next year with Ant’s development, but.. I’d go Murray to “some team” with that team splitting its value between NOP/Minnesota?

Not sure what example that is..

I’ll go;

DFS, Dennis, Sarr, Griffin, 2025 Phoenix first to Minnesota
Murray to Brooklyn
KAT and the 2027 Philly first to Atlanta

Or something like that?

[jayjaysee]

I seriously doubt Atlanta is going to pay the tax to keep this team together.

Do you mean not paying the tax if they add Butler and don’t lose anyone that matters?

Because the current team - with the number one pick - won’t have tax issues for 3-4 years..

The fake new team - would definitely be worth paying the tax for a couple years if Jalen earns a big enough contract that they are over the tax. Then KD or Butler expire and they drop below the tax.

[jayjaysee]

Still feel like Lauri would be a great fit on the Hawks if they keep Trae.

Something like Lauri to ATL, DJM to LAL, and Utah gets #1, Reaves, Rui, LAL 2029 1st

Feel like Lauri can’t be “number one pick” more valuable than DJM.

In a thread of number 1 pick for KD, Butler, Ingram..

Even on his current deal I have Lauri as more valuable than Butler and Ingram. Maybe DJM + 1 is a little too much though - maybe Jazz send back #10 or something type of value

I can see arguments for him being more valuable.

Just not DJM more valuable. Adding 10th back would change it a lot.

I’d play with it and try and get Utah to take on Hunter and Capela or find the third/fourth team to make that make sense… then Atlanta can renegotiate Lauri in December if they run a thin roster..

[GoBobs]

I see ATL shopping the pick hard. I think they want to win now. M. Bridges seems like the obvious fit. Okongwu and #1 for M. Bridges would be hard for both to pass on.

Lauri is probably next best option. KD and Butler likely out of reach, unless those teams decide to blow it up and I don't think they will. Suns didn't pay a coach 10 mil to rebuild. Same with Heat.

[kristov]

I seriously doubt Atlanta is going to pay the tax to keep this team together.

Do you mean not paying the tax if they add Butler and don’t lose anyone that matters?

Because the current team - with the number one pick - won’t have tax issues for 3-4 years..

The fake new team - would definitely be worth paying the tax for a couple years if Jalen earns a big enough contract that they are over the tax. Then KD or Butler expire and they drop below the tax.

#1 adds 12.6m which gets them to 175m. Tax line is 178m so cut the bottom guys and replace with min salary players and maybe they can add 5m to their roster. And their current roster is mediocre so I can't see the first pick in a mediocre draft making much of an impact