Shaq & J-Will for Marbury & Malik Rose

[WiltForever]

Two bad teams. Miami, with a likely top-five pick in June, gets Shaq's $20 mil off the books a year early. New York unloads a cancer who can be bought out next season (or told to stay home). Shaq might provide some fan interest for the remainder of the Knicks sad season and maybe, even, can whip some of their overweight front court into shape, teach them what it is to play with 'heart'. The Knicks save around $18 mil next season because J-Will's $9 mil salary comes off the books.

The numbers work.

[D5150]

but the trade does not. shaq will retire in miami.

[corwin]

but the trade does not. shaq will retire in miami.

No doubt. Still, this is one possible trade. There aren't that many others that can even be made. I do wonder what Riley would think of Marbury.

[D5150]

i think marbury and riley together in the same room would bring an end to life on this earth as we know it.

[corwin]

It sure would be fun to watch though.

[sec-106]

Simply brutal for MIA.

[TonyMontana]

but the trade does not. shaq will retire in miami.

Either that or he'll have a heartattack trying to run down court .

[D5150]

^^^^^^

i know, its too bad he didn't keep himself in better shape over the years. he is paying the price now. still one of the greats for sure though.

[Flash is the Future]

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Either that or he'll have a heartattack trying to run down court .

Was that a joke? Good one!

[WiltForever]

Simply brutal for MIA.

Yea, but look at the silver lining (considering that Shaq and Marbury have all of the gold):

You get a top-five pick to add to Cook and Wright...and Haslem and Wade, one of the top five players in the game.

You buy Marbury out at 80 cents on the dollar, save about $4 mil and let him go ruin somebody else's team.

You're in full-blown rebuilding mode next year, and when June 2009 comes round your payroll will be around $33 mil (counting your draft pick) and Blount on his final $8 mil year.

I don't know whether you'll keep your 2009 pick, but if you do it should be another good one.

But with a $33 mil payroll, you can go in the free-agency market and add another quality player (or two) and be back in business.

If you don't cut a year of Shaq's salary, you'll delay the rebuilding until June 2010.

I think Shaq still has game and can help someone...but his presence, because of the size ofhis contract, prevents Miami from rebuilding.

Just my opinion.

[#1knickfan]

^^^ I agree. I think what hurts this deal for Miami is that in addition to trading Shaq for a guy with little to no trade value until next season is that they also trade a pretty good sized expiring deal for Malik Rose who also isn't really a valuable trade chip till next year.

Shaq for Marbury is certainly a starting component for a deal but I think both sides would need to add stuff.

[Flash is the Future]

WiltForever - We get a top 5 pick? Really? We're getting that without trading Shaq so...

[Flash is the Future]

^^^ I agree. I think what hurts this deal for Miami is that in addition to trading Shaq for a guy with little to no trade value until next season is that they also trade a pretty good sized expiring deal for Malik Rose who also isn't really a valuable trade chip till next year.

Shaq for Marbury is certainly a starting component for a deal but I think both sides would need to add stuff.

If we were doing this just to save money, then it'd be worth considering if you added Fred Jones, and we added Blount.

http://realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=4389539

But who in their right mind would trade Shaq for Starbury? Not even Isiah...

[ubernathan]

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Either that or he'll have a heartattack trying to run down court .

I believe you're thinking of Eddie Curry.

[WiltForever]

WiltForever - We get a top 5 pick? Really? We're getting that without trading Shaq so...

My bad. I meant you're getting a top five pick because you've earned. Lordy, lordy, you shouldn't expect to get the Knicks top five pick in a trade to reduce your debt.

I've made the trade as bare-bones as possible - no Curry and all the other high-priced garbage Isiah has signed. Although I could imagine Shaq helping Curry's game, not necessarily his wasteline.

[Flash is the Future]

Of course we wouldn't get it. But that doesn't mean that we should just give Shaq away for a year more capspace.

And I like the unintentional misspelling of wasteline

[BBallFreak]

Shaq has more value than Starbury, so until we're compensated for the difference (and a year less salary doesn't do it) we're not doing this deal...

[Pats19andO]

Maybe add Blount and Crawfrd?

[Flash is the Future]

That would make it worse. But like I said, adding Blount+Fred Jones would make it more appealing for Miami.

[WiltForever]

Of course we wouldn't get it. But that doesn't mean that we should just give Shaq away for a year more capspace. And I like the unintentional misspelling of wasteline

dwayne wade will be 28 in june 2009. why waste another year? he plays with the intensity of iverson but without the durability. the sooner you start the rebuilding, the sooner you'll be back on center stage.

you won a championship thanks to shaq. that makes anything you do moving forward worthwhile. but this is now predictable - that you can't win another championship, perhaps get into the playoffs, while shaq is on the team. you just don't have enough weapons.

as for 'wasteline', it must have been a freudian slip thinking about isiah's 'waste land'.