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GSW/MIL - NOT a Redd trade
Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 7:17 pm
by EastSideBucksFan
Here's something I was pondering, it doesn't involved huge names but it fills needs.
GSW are said to be looking for a point guard and it's also no secret that they only have ONE center who actually play minutes. This trade gives them depth for the playoffs and gives them defense in both the backcourt and the frontcourt.
Obviously the sticking points are the contracts that the Bucks are looking to unload, but Bell's deal isn't crazy. He's only making 3.5M per year and Gadz is making $6M which if you look at salaries is not that bloated when you see what some other centers make.
GSW also does this because they don't give up any pieces that are useful to them right now.
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Milwaukee Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +3.8 ppg, +1.6 rpg, and -2.0 apg.
Incoming Players
DJ Mbenga
7-0 C from Congo (Foreign)
1.2 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.3 apg in 8.1 minutes
Austin Croshere
6-9 PF from Providence
3.7 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 0.4 apg in 8.8 minutes
Mickael Pietrus
6-6 SG / SF from France (Foreign)
6.0 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 0.7 apg in 17.6 minutes
Outgoing Players
Charlie Bell
6-3 PG from Michigan State
4.1 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 3.1 apg in 20.3 minutes
Dan Gadzuric
6-11 C from UCLA
3.0 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 0.3 apg in 10.2 minutes
Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 7:19 pm
by Baddy Chuck
Gadz could thrive in their system. Bell could turn around his shooting % and become a good player in the system also. Thats the IFS though, I dont think Golden State is willing to "risk" 10+ million.
Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 7:21 pm
by trwi7
GSW won't do it.
Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 7:22 pm
by EastSideBucksFan
RingtheBell wrote:Gadz could thrive in their system. Bell could turn around his shooting % and become a good player in the system also. Thats the IFS though, I dont think Golden State is willing to "risk" 10+ million.
Mullin is a pretty decent GM and I'll be honest I don't know their cap situation.
But their depth is horrible. Depending on their mindset I would think they would be looking to acquire players who can help them in the playoffs.
This sends three castaways off their team and gives them two players who can step into their rotation. Bell can give minutes at the one and two and Gadzuric can run in this offense all day long.
Not to mention Biedrins is playing with no contract. Should he not return, Gadz could potentially give them 75% of what Biedrins is.
Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 7:23 pm
by Simulack
Really bad deal for the Warriors.
Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 7:48 pm
by dom80e
GS needs money to resign Ellis and Biedrins. Plus Barnes, Azubuike and Pietrus are all FA's as well.
Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 8:00 pm
by loserX
You might be able to convince the Warriors to take Bell for expirings...but not Gadzuric. His contract is just too ugly.
Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 8:04 pm
by trwi7
loserX wrote:His contract is just too ugly.
Oh yeah well, you're ugly.
Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 8:06 pm
by loserX
trwi7 wrote:Oh yeah well, you're ugly.
Nevertheless, my comment stands
Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 8:08 pm
by trwi7
loserX wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Nevertheless, my comment stands
As does mine and since you didn't deny it I can only believe that my comment is correct.
Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 8:14 pm
by loserX
trwi7 wrote:As does mine and since you didn't deny it I can only believe that my comment is correct.
That was my point as well...being ugly doesn't make me wrong
Posted: Sat Jan 5, 2008 11:15 pm
by skones
I'd be all over it, but it's awful for Golden State.
Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2008 1:19 am
by old rem
[quote="EastSideBucksFan"][/quote]
The Warriors depth is good....we just have a coach who'd rather run our regulars to death than PLAY the 3 rd 1 picks on the bench. We sure don't want to pay Gadzuric.
Barnes averages about 9 a game over this year and last. Pietrus was over 11 a game last year,Azubuike is over 11 a game this year Each of those has had plenty of 20+ scoring games,has had some 10 + rebound games has started.
B Wright was the #9 pick this draft,Bellinelli was #18.
The Warriors got burned with overpaid contracts and have gone extreme in avoiding getting any more.
Bell? might be interested. Gadz? No chance.
Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2008 9:03 am
by crzy
We're not taking on Gadz or Bell's contract. Milwaukee is like the 2005 Warriors, just littered with dreadful contracts.
Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2008 12:41 pm
by gswhoops
crzyyafrican wrote:We're not taking on Gadz or Bell's contract.
Pretty much. Mullin has jumped off the bad contract bandwagon and we have 3 major resignings this offseason (Baron/Biedrins/Ellis) as well as some smaller rotation players needing new deals (Azubuike, Barnes, Pietrus, O'Bryant).
The only way the W's take on a contract that has more than one year (i.e. not an expiring) would be if the player we're getting is a legit stud in a deal that would be impossible to turn down, or if they have a contract that is very small (no more than $3-4M a year). Bell and Gadz qualify under neither condition.
Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2008 2:34 pm
by turk3d
gswhoops wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Pretty much. Mullin has jumped off the bad contract bandwagon and we have 3 major resignings this offseason (Baron/Biedrins/Ellis) as well as some smaller rotation players needing new deals (Azubuike, Barnes, Pietrus, O'Bryant).
The only way the W's take on a contract that has more than one year (i.e. not an expiring) would be if the player we're getting is a legit stud in a deal that would be impossible to turn down, or if they have a contract that is very small (no more than $3-4M a year). Bell and Gadz qualify under neither condition.
+1
Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2008 3:57 pm
by hermes
Simulack wrote:Really bad deal for the Warriors.