**NBA Draft Discussion 2024**

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Ideal backup to Bam in 2nd rd.

[RexBoyWonder]

STAY AWAY FROM :

Tristan da Silva - an Older less exciting Jovic, career MLE guy IF he pans out

Johnny Furphy - 6'7 with a 6'8 wingspan, can't create, we trying to for a new smaller Duncan?

Tyler Kolek - Tiny person, 6'1 and not quick - you're done

Jared McCain - again 6'3 wingspan below average athlete - that's not going to work

Kyle Filipowski - Tall but T-rex arms, jumper doesn't look awesome

DaRon Holmes - tweener size

Could be a steal for us :

Kel'el Ware - Just scorers like a natural baller, 9-4.5 standing reach + quickness + his touch = gold

Devin Carter - tough, strong, long, good athlete - improved jumper away from being a steal

Isaiah Collier - great first step, can slash and create, 6'5 wingspan 205 pounds - Also an improved jumpshot away from being a stud

Zach Edey - 7'11 wingspan is just bonkers, you combine it with his touch and it's a gamble worth taking

Carlton Carrington - great size for a PG, super young and fluid, could become something

[lastb1ckman]

STAY AWAY FROM :

Tristan da Silva - an Older less exciting Jovic, career MLE guy IF he pans out

Johnny Furphy - 6'7 with a 6'8 wingspan, can't create, we trying to for a new smaller Duncan?

Tyler Kolek - Tiny person, 6'1 and not quick - you're done

Jared McCain - again 6'3 wingspan below average athlete - that's not going to work

Kyle Filipowski - Tall but T-rex arms, jumper doesn't look awesome

DaRon Holmes - tweener size

Could be a steal for us :

Kel'el Ware - Just scorers like a natural baller, 9-4.5 standing reach + quickness + his touch = gold

Devin Carter - tough, strong, long, good athlete - improved jumper away from being a steal

Isaiah Collier - great first step, can slash and create, 6'5 wingspan 205 pounds - Also an improved jumpshot away from being a stud

Zach Edey - 7'11 wingspan is just bonkers, you combine it with his touch and it's a gamble worth taking

Carlton Carrington - great size for a PG, super young and fluid, could become something

Agree on a lot of it. Though when it comes to McCain, Da Silva, and Furphy I think they could be good anywhere they go. I just think they replicate what players on our team already do. If we pick one of them at 15, I fully expect either Herro, Jaime, and/or Jovic to be gone soon.

[marson]

Draft a big man, and if Edey is available, grab him. We're heading into the fifth year without a center.

I want to see Bam move back to his natural position at the four, especially since he's shown a willingness to shoot threes.

I like the defensive guards in this draft, but we need to shift the team's mold and become a big team again.

[greg4012]

Jovic and Da Silva are not very similar prospects imo. Any overlap in skill they have are things you want every player on the court to be able to do.

Do people really still think 6’11 Jovic will get future minutes at SF?

If anything, having a versatile defender and 3 pt shooter like Da Silva backing up SF and PF allows Miami to level up size wise and gives Jovic more opportunity to play a perimeter game offensively without being exploited by quicker guys on the other end.

Can someone help me understand where this sentiment that Jovic and Da Silva are clear overlap is coming from?

If it’s just finding reasons to put down the prospect bc of his age, it’s ok to say so. It’s perfectly valid to prefer the upside of youth in draft prospects.

[lastb1ckman]

Jovic and Da Silva are not similar prospects. Any overlap in skill they have are things you want every player on the court to be able to do.

Do people really still think 6’11 Jovic will get future minutes at SF?

If anything, having a versatile defender and 3 pt shooter like Da Silva backing up SF and PF allows Miami to level up size wise and gives Jovic more opportunity to play a perimeter game offensively without being exploited by quicker guys on the other end.

Can someone help me understand where this sentiment that Jovic and Da Silva are clear overlap is coming from?

If it’s just finding reasons to put down the prospect bc of his age, it’s ok to say so. It’s perfectly valid to prefer the upside of youth in draft prospects.

The things he brings at PF are similar to what Jovic brings there (Shooting, size, D). He also brings similar skills to Jaime at SF (Shooting, some ball handling, D). That's where the whole consolidate skills point comes from. However, if you do that at least one of them is gonna suffer minutes wise and get their development stunted. If the Heat like him, he's gonna get play time. He's not some young raw player learning how to play ball. Jaime in particular is already getting held back by Jimmy still being here. Imagine you add ANOTHER ready to play now small forward who's skill demands to be used. The bench is for vets who already finished products or young raw developmental pieces.

And on top of all this, we have clear holes at other parts of the team, and limited draft capital to address them in the coming years.

[IceColdCubano]

Jovic and Da Silva are not similar prospects. Any overlap in skill they have are things you want every player on the court to be able to do.

Do people really still think 6’11 Jovic will get future minutes at SF?

If anything, having a versatile defender and 3 pt shooter like Da Silva backing up SF and PF allows Miami to level up size wise and gives Jovic more opportunity to play a perimeter game offensively without being exploited by quicker guys on the other end.

Can someone help me understand where this sentiment that Jovic and Da Silva are clear overlap is coming from?

If it’s just finding reasons to put down the prospect bc of his age, it’s ok to say so. It’s perfectly valid to prefer the upside of youth in draft prospects.

The things he brings at PF are similar to what Jovic brings there (Shooting, size, D). He also brings similar skills to Jaime at SF (Shooting, some ball handling, D). That's where the whole consolidate skills point comes from. However, if you do that at least one of them is gonna suffer minutes wise and get their development stunted. If the Heat like him, he's gonna get play time. He's not some young raw player learning how to play ball. Jaime in particular is already getting held back by Jimmy still being here. Imagine you add ANOTHER ready to play now small forward who's skill demands to be used. The bench is for vets who already finished products or young raw developmental pieces.

And on top of all this, we have clear holes at other parts of the team, and limited draft capital to address them in the coming years.

You guy realize that either one or both of Highsmith and Caleb are gone next year, guys whom take up majority of our Wing/PF minutes from the bench and from when we slide down in size. Da Silva can now in reverse slide up Miami going bigger and no Jovic and Da Silva are not the same offensively how they play nor defensively. Da Silva is a switch heavy defender with great leaping ability, and speed to which Jovic does not posses, he plays far more above the rim. Having them both be capable 3pt shooters is not an overlap but a requirement surely lacking here. On defense Da Silva can be the guy who plays free safety capable of helping Bam block shots from the weakside, and using his size to corral players into bad shots. Not every drafted player has to be this defacto starter quality level player, its ok to go get a great backup or wing defender in the draft on cheap labor, getting you that Glue guy your missing.

[greg4012]

Jovic and Da Silva are not similar prospects. Any overlap in skill they have are things you want every player on the court to be able to do.

Do people really still think 6’11 Jovic will get future minutes at SF?

If anything, having a versatile defender and 3 pt shooter like Da Silva backing up SF and PF allows Miami to level up size wise and gives Jovic more opportunity to play a perimeter game offensively without being exploited by quicker guys on the other end.

Can someone help me understand where this sentiment that Jovic and Da Silva are clear overlap is coming from?

If it’s just finding reasons to put down the prospect bc of his age, it’s ok to say so. It’s perfectly valid to prefer the upside of youth in draft prospects.

The things he brings at PF are similar to what Jovic brings there (Shooting, size, D). He also brings similar skills to Jaime at SF (Shooting, some ball handling, D). That's where the whole consolidate skills point comes from. However, if you do that at least one of them is gonna suffer minutes wise and get their development stunted. If the Heat like him, he's gonna get play time. He's not some young raw player learning how to play ball. Jaime in particular is already getting held back by Jimmy still being here. Imagine you add ANOTHER ready to play now small forward who's skill demands to be used. The bench is for vets who already finished products or young raw developmental pieces.

And on top of all this, we have clear holes at other parts of the team, and limited draft capital to address them in the coming years.

You guy realize that either one or both of Highsmith and Caleb are gone next year, guys whom take up majority of our Wing/PF minutes from the bench and from when we slide down in size. Da Silva can now in reverse slide up Miami going bigger and no Jovic and Da Silva are not the same offensively how they play nor defensively. Da Silva is a switch heavy defender with great leaping ability, and speed to which Jovic does not posses, he plays far more above the rim. Having them both be capable 3pt shooters is not an overlap but a requirement surely lacking here. On defense Da Silva can be the guy who plays free safety capable of helping Bam block shots from the weakside, and using his size to corral players into bad shots. Not every drafted player has to be this defacto starter quality level player, its ok to go get a great backup or wing defender in the draft on cheap labor, getting you that Glue guy your missing.

This is exactly how I see it.

[Wiltside]

STAY AWAY FROM :

Tristan da Silva - an Older less exciting Jovic, career MLE guy IF he pans out

Johnny Furphy - 6'7 with a 6'8 wingspan, can't create, we trying to for a new smaller Duncan?

Tyler Kolek - Tiny person, 6'1 and not quick - you're done

Jared McCain - again 6'3 wingspan below average athlete - that's not going to work

Kyle Filipowski - Tall but T-rex arms, jumper doesn't look awesome

DaRon Holmes - tweener size

Could be a steal for us :

Kel'el Ware - Just scorers like a natural baller, 9-4.5 standing reach + quickness + his touch = gold

Devin Carter - tough, strong, long, good athlete - improved jumper away from being a steal

Isaiah Collier - great first step, can slash and create, 6'5 wingspan 205 pounds - Also an improved jumpshot away from being a stud

Zach Edey - 7'11 wingspan is just bonkers, you combine it with his touch and it's a gamble worth taking

Carlton Carrington - great size for a PG, super young and fluid, could become something

Oh chit, Rex has seen the light with Devin Carter?!

[MiamiLoyal926]

Jovic and Da Silva are not similar prospects. Any overlap in skill they have are things you want every player on the court to be able to do.

Do people really still think 6’11 Jovic will get future minutes at SF?

If anything, having a versatile defender and 3 pt shooter like Da Silva backing up SF and PF allows Miami to level up size wise and gives Jovic more opportunity to play a perimeter game offensively without being exploited by quicker guys on the other end.

Can someone help me understand where this sentiment that Jovic and Da Silva are clear overlap is coming from?

If it’s just finding reasons to put down the prospect bc of his age, it’s ok to say so. It’s perfectly valid to prefer the upside of youth in draft prospects.

The things he brings at PF are similar to what Jovic brings there (Shooting, size, D). He also brings similar skills to Jaime at SF (Shooting, some ball handling, D). That's where the whole consolidate skills point comes from. However, if you do that at least one of them is gonna suffer minutes wise and get their development stunted. If the Heat like him, he's gonna get play time. He's not some young raw player learning how to play ball. Jaime in particular is already getting held back by Jimmy still being here. Imagine you add ANOTHER ready to play now small forward who's skill demands to be used. The bench is for vets who already finished products or young raw developmental pieces.

And on top of all this, we have clear holes at other parts of the team, and limited draft capital to address them in the coming years.

You guy realize that either one or both of Highsmith and Caleb are gone next year, guys whom take up majority of our Wing/PF minutes from the bench and from when we slide down in size. Da Silva can now in reverse slide up Miami going bigger and no Jovic and Da Silva are not the same offensively how they play nor defensively. Da Silva is a switch heavy defender with great leaping ability, and speed to which Jovic does not posses, he plays far more above the rim. Having them both be capable 3pt shooters is not an overlap but a requirement surely lacking here. On defense Da Silva can be the guy who plays free safety capable of helping Bam block shots from the weakside, and using his size to corral players into bad shots. Not every drafted player has to be this defacto starter quality level player, its ok to go get a great backup or wing defender in the draft on cheap labor, getting you that Glue guy your missing.

Sounds a lot like drafting Precious all over again! I am not saying what you mentioned doesn’t make sense and that it doesn’t sound like a good move… just saying that many in here will be upset if there is another Maxey drafted after our pick!

[Hallstar]

STAY AWAY FROM :

Tristan da Silva - an Older less exciting Jovic, career MLE guy IF he pans out

Johnny Furphy - 6'7 with a 6'8 wingspan, can't create, we trying to for a new smaller Duncan?

Tyler Kolek - Tiny person, 6'1 and not quick - you're done

Jared McCain - again 6'3 wingspan below average athlete - that's not going to work

Kyle Filipowski - Tall but T-rex arms, jumper doesn't look awesome

DaRon Holmes - tweener size

Could be a steal for us :

Kel'el Ware - Just scorers like a natural baller, 9-4.5 standing reach + quickness + his touch = gold

Devin Carter - tough, strong, long, good athlete - improved jumper away from being a steal

Isaiah Collier - great first step, can slash and create, 6'5 wingspan 205 pounds - Also an improved jumpshot away from being a stud

Zach Edey - 7'11 wingspan is just bonkers, you combine it with his touch and it's a gamble worth taking

Carlton Carrington - great size for a PG, super young and fluid, could become something

For me it's Ware or Carrington. I see Carrington as a potentially a bigger Maxey which allows us to correct a previous mistake and Ware allows big man rotation that's athletic and actually big

[greg4012]

The things he brings at PF are similar to what Jovic brings there (Shooting, size, D). He also brings similar skills to Jaime at SF (Shooting, some ball handling, D). That's where the whole consolidate skills point comes from. However, if you do that at least one of them is gonna suffer minutes wise and get their development stunted. If the Heat like him, he's gonna get play time. He's not some young raw player learning how to play ball. Jaime in particular is already getting held back by Jimmy still being here. Imagine you add ANOTHER ready to play now small forward who's skill demands to be used. The bench is for vets who already finished products or young raw developmental pieces.

And on top of all this, we have clear holes at other parts of the team, and limited draft capital to address them in the coming years.

You guy realize that either one or both of Highsmith and Caleb are gone next year, guys whom take up majority of our Wing/PF minutes from the bench and from when we slide down in size. Da Silva can now in reverse slide up Miami going bigger and no Jovic and Da Silva are not the same offensively how they play nor defensively. Da Silva is a switch heavy defender with great leaping ability, and speed to which Jovic does not posses, he plays far more above the rim. Having them both be capable 3pt shooters is not an overlap but a requirement surely lacking here. On defense Da Silva can be the guy who plays free safety capable of helping Bam block shots from the weakside, and using his size to corral players into bad shots. Not every drafted player has to be this defacto starter quality level player, its ok to go get a great backup or wing defender in the draft on cheap labor, getting you that Glue guy your missing.

Sounds a lot like drafting Precious all over again! I am not saying what you mentioned doesn’t make sense and that it doesn’t sound like a good move… just saying that many in here will be upset if there is another Maxey drafted after our pick!

3&D is the foundation for the NBA game. Nothing like drafting Precious in that regard.

[RexBoyWonder]

My god we have GLARING HOLES on this roster, MULTIPULE.

How the hell are we thinking about drafting for the bench?!

We're desperate for another real big,
Our PG situation is literarily scary.

No way we should draft another shooting wing to play behind Jovic/JJJ/Jimmy - especially if said shooting wing is older and has less potential then our current players.

PG and C are ginat needs - and also in this draft seem to bring a higher upside which should be a huge factor us, being a team lacking elite talent and scoring.

[lastb1ckman]

You guy realize that either one or both of Highsmith and Caleb are gone next year, guys whom take up majority of our Wing/PF minutes from the bench and from when we slide down in size. Da Silva can now in reverse slide up Miami going bigger and no Jovic and Da Silva are not the same offensively how they play nor defensively. Da Silva is a switch heavy defender with great leaping ability, and speed to which Jovic does not posses, he plays far more above the rim. Having them both be capable 3pt shooters is not an overlap but a requirement surely lacking here. On defense Da Silva can be the guy who plays free safety capable of helping Bam block shots from the weakside, and using his size to corral players into bad shots. Not every drafted player has to be this defacto starter quality level player, its ok to go get a great backup or wing defender in the draft on cheap labor, getting you that Glue guy your missing.

Sounds a lot like drafting Precious all over again! I am not saying what you mentioned doesn’t make sense and that it doesn’t sound like a good move… just saying that many in here will be upset if there is another Maxey drafted after our pick!

3&D is the foundation for the NBA game. Nothing like drafting Precious in that regard.

I just think that isn't a weakness on this team. It has 3&D guys. And Glue guys. And there's options to replace the ones that are leaving besides using a draft pick. If we use a pick for yet another 3&D wing, what do we do about the offense problems or non Bam minutes? We might have no picks entirely next season.

[greg4012]

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[Kobewade11]

STAY AWAY FROM :

Tristan da Silva - an Older less exciting Jovic, career MLE guy IF he pans out

Johnny Furphy - 6'7 with a 6'8 wingspan, can't create, we trying to for a new smaller Duncan?

Tyler Kolek - Tiny person, 6'1 and not quick - you're done

Jared McCain - again 6'3 wingspan below average athlete - that's not going to work

Kyle Filipowski - Tall but T-rex arms, jumper doesn't look awesome

DaRon Holmes - tweener size

Could be a steal for us :

Kel'el Ware - Just scorers like a natural baller, 9-4.5 standing reach + quickness + his touch = gold

Devin Carter - tough, strong, long, good athlete - improved jumper away from being a steal

Isaiah Collier - great first step, can slash and create, 6'5 wingspan 205 pounds - Also an improved jumpshot away from being a stud

Zach Edey - 7'11 wingspan is just bonkers, you combine it with his touch and it's a gamble worth taking

Carlton Carrington - great size for a PG, super young and fluid, could become something

MLE guys help you win championships too

[Wiltside]

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Want. Make it happen Pat. Could be a young 6’6” Gogi.

[greg4012]

Sounds a lot like drafting Precious all over again! I am not saying what you mentioned doesn’t make sense and that it doesn’t sound like a good move… just saying that many in here will be upset if there is another Maxey drafted after our pick!

3&D is the foundation for the NBA game. Nothing like drafting Precious in that regard.

I just think that isn't a weakness on this team. It has 3&D guys. And Glue guys. And there's options to replace the ones that are leaving besides using a draft pick. If we use a pick for yet another 3&D wing, what do we do about the offense problems or non Bam minutes? We might have no picks entirely next season.

I don't believe there is any guarantee that drafting specifically for need with the 15th pick in the worst draft in years will generate anything that satisfies those needs. I honestly feel the same if Miami had a top 7 pick. In general, I think drafting specifically for need is a mistake.

I look at the core of the roster and I actually only identify one guy who offers both consistent multi-faceted defense and reliable 3 point shooting that can scale and it's Haywood Highsmith. And it's questionable if his 3 pt shooting can actually scale or if he just benefits from teams sagging off of him (plus most of this board hates him getting minutes at PF and he's an impending free agent that Miami would have to pay to keep).

When I compare that to the top contenders in the NBA, I see Boston & OKC having a roster full of guys with a scalable 3&D baseline, Knicks, Minny, & Denver having at least 3 of their 6 top minutes guys this postseason having a scalable 3&D skillset (questionable if I give MPJ the benefit of being called a defender but his size allows him to get by in their scheme), and Dallas making their run after re-orienting their roster to buff up their 3&D role players.

There are a number of guys I like for Miami over Da Silva in this draft, and some are the upside swings for a playmaking guard or a big man. But, I still feel like it's a rock solid draft if Da Silva is the pick. Especially given the new CBA and the need to source cheap quality role players.

[twix2500]

STAY AWAY FROM :

Tristan da Silva - an Older less exciting Jovic, career MLE guy IF he pans out

Johnny Furphy - 6'7 with a 6'8 wingspan, can't create, we trying to for a new smaller Duncan?

Tyler Kolek - Tiny person, 6'1 and not quick - you're done

Jared McCain - again 6'3 wingspan below average athlete - that's not going to work

Kyle Filipowski - Tall but T-rex arms, jumper doesn't look awesome

DaRon Holmes - tweener size

Could be a steal for us :

Kel'el Ware - Just scorers like a natural baller, 9-4.5 standing reach + quickness + his touch = gold

Devin Carter - tough, strong, long, good athlete - improved jumper away from being a steal

Isaiah Collier - great first step, can slash and create, 6'5 wingspan 205 pounds - Also an improved jumpshot away from being a stud

Zach Edey - 7'11 wingspan is just bonkers, you combine it with his touch and it's a gamble worth taking

Carlton Carrington - great size for a PG, super young and fluid, could become something

Carrington is a hugh mystery player. He has improved his stock by showing he is working hard on his jumper. His stock is all over the place because he was such an unrefined player his freshman year. I assume he gonna have to perform well in private workouts as well.

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[AirP.]

Those looking to draft a backup, where's this next starting PG coming from in the next few years? Rozier's a smaller guard that needs his quickness which is one of the first things that starts to decline in the 30s. Then again, in a draft that's been talked about as being one of the worst drafts in the last 20-25 years it seems to make the most sense to take the best player available no matter the position to give yourself the best chance of the player becoming an asset.

Unless Miami sees something they really like a guy who could end up being a starter, it seems to make the most sense in trying to trade the pick for a somewhat cheap useful player that's actually proven vs rookie. Maybe they could try acquiring another 1st down the road in an expected better draft than keep the pick/player (draft for someone else) this year.