powerball1373 wrote:AirP. wrote:powerball1373 wrote:
3rother, I honestly appreciate the time you took to put this response together, but it's gonna be tldr for me lol. Just gonna say we'll have to agree to disagree here.
Well sure, it's actual data/facts. Hard to counter basically saying nu uh.
Lol I finally got around to reading as much as I could - mostly got through the 3rd quarter commentary. I skipped the 4th quarter stuff since he scored a lot of points in the 4th so I assume there wasn't much issue there.
Unless I missed a bunch of them (like Tyler
), didn't think I saw that many instances where you actually had a problem with the shot itself. Also, not sure why you included non-shooting plays since this discussion is strictly about shot selection and not whether he had a good game or not.
I got tired talking/writing about the plays I didn't like, if you noticed I kinda changed the format throughout, talking about 27 shot is a lot, actually more then I realized, I decided to just ended up saying which I thought were good plays and there were some of course but what I've talked about for years now is how many bad shots he takes nearly every game which you can see how it affects him and the team through his calculated ORTG <- this is a basically a high level catch-all offensive stat that indicates if you're playing your role (even if the role is #1 option) well and if it's low you need to dig into other stats and watch games to figure out why.
Here's Herro calculated ORTG since his rookie year with the league average in (), league average is around 114-115 in those years..
103 (110.6), 104(112.3), 107(112), 109(114.8), 108(115.3)
He is regularly one of the worse calculated ORTG players from Miami's rotation each year.
He is usually in the bottom half of the team in TS% even though he's a very good high volume 3pt shooter.
These to me are some red flags that he's doing probably multiple things at a high rate to lower his efficiency and calculated ORTG.
On the opposite side of the spectrum, Jimmy Butler has insanely high calculated ORTG and TS% for one of the top options of a team, so high that it's a head scratcher why he doesn't try to score more, but this is his mindset holding him back until he really feels he needs to try to take over (which even when he tries, he doesn't always do). Just last year Butler and Jovic had the highest ORTG of 20+ ppg players in the last 25 years, it was insane and this year he dropped from last year's 135 (114.8 was league average) to 129, still way above league average and as we know, Butler... who is a max player could be doing way more for the Heat during the season but doesn't, that's a flaw in his mindset which probably is hurting the team overall. I really like Butler but I think he's not done nearly as much as he could in his career or for Miami which is on him, he could have gotten this team to the #2 seed if he gave normal level effort during the season.