Miami Heat Offseason Thread vol. 1: Post Mortem

[MettaWorldPanda]

Tyler Herro’s career arch needs to become Reddick and Donte D type of role. I don’t think it can happen here though since the front office and coaching staff views seem cemented. Herro will thrive in his role once he’s out of here. Needs to be traded. Will be a win/win for both sides. Problem is both sides are stubborn.

[carnageta]

The Heat organization thought Herro could be better than Booker. Herro himself says he is on the same level as Luka and Trae Young. Miss me with that lowering expectations on him bullsh*t. He either needs to produce at that high level or get the f*ck out.

So we're going to sh*t on a guy for believing in himself and perhaps making some outlandish claims 3 years ago when he was a 21 year old kid?

Lmao, ya'll never fail to amuse me.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Damn it’s 2024 and majority still don’t think LeBron is the GOAT?!?!

The MJ nut hugging is kinda wild tbh. I watched MJ growing up and like the level of talent just between that era and now is wild different. Don't think you can compare accolades really. So I'll let MJ have his but LeBron career is way more impressive.

I was MJ all day up until a couple seasons ago, what LeBron has done at 40 is just unreal. This dude has been dominating the league for more than half of his life.

Yea talent is super different, LeBron is simply just the bigger stronger faster more skilled player between the 2. It’s not a diss to MJ, it just is what it is at this point.

What wild is, health permitting and if he can win championships Wemby is probably going to make all the MJ/LeBron debates all these years irrelevant lol

[Hoops3355]

The MJ nut hugging is kinda wild tbh. I watched MJ growing up and like the level of talent just between that era and now is wild different. Don't think you can compare accolades really. So I'll let MJ have his but LeBron career is way more impressive.

Jordan did way more in way less time. This is like saying Frank Gore’s career is more impressive than Barry Sanders.

Sure if you wanna compare two things that aren't alike for the sake of your argument. You're comparing top RB of all time with someone whose not. If you're going to make the comp at least use the right players not some home cooking University of Miami pick. LT vs Barry maybe? I don't watch the NFL too lowbrow for me.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Tyler Herro’s career arch needs to become Reddick and Donte D type of role. I don’t think it can happen here though since the front office and coaching staff views seem cemented. Herro will thrive in his role once he’s out of here. Needs to be traded. Will be a win/win for both sides. Problem is both sides are stubborn.

It’s just as much on Herro as it is anyone else, let’s not give him a pass for thinking he’s a Luka level player as he’s said.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

The Heat organization thought Herro could be better than Booker. Herro himself says he is on the same level as Luka and Trae Young. Miss me with that lowering expectations on him bullsh*t. He either needs to produce at that high level or get the f*ck out.

He just needs to get TF out at this point, with $90M allocated to Jimmy/Bam we simply need Tyler’s money going to a true running mate to those 2 guys. Herro isn’t it, has never been it. Doesn’t play defense and is a “good”
Offensive player. Better without him every time he goes down.

[carnageta]

The Heat organization thought Herro could be better than Booker. Herro himself says he is on the same level as Luka and Trae Young. Miss me with that lowering expectations on him bullsh*t. He either needs to produce at that high level or get the f*ck out.

He just needs to get TF out at this point, with $90M allocated to Jimmy/Bam we simply need Tyler’s money going to a true running mate to those 2 guys. Herro isn’t it, has never been it. Doesn’t play defense and is a “good”
Offensive player. Better without him every time he goes down.

My guy, you're not going to find a 'true' running mate for what Herro is being paid. He got paid 27m this season.

Sure, there are anomalies, but they are extremely rare and hard to fine (i.e. Brunson).

[Kobewade11]

The MJ nut hugging is kinda wild tbh. I watched MJ growing up and like the level of talent just between that era and now is wild different. Don't think you can compare accolades really. So I'll let MJ have his but LeBron career is way more impressive.

Jordan did way more in way less time. This is like saying Frank Gore’s career is more impressive than Barry Sanders.

Sure if you wanna compare two things that aren't alike for the sake of your argument. You're comparing top RB of all time with someone whose not.

And why is Barry often regarded as the best RB of all time lol

On 2nd thought nvm, we’re veering away from Heat stuff so dont even worry about it.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

The Heat organization thought Herro could be better than Booker. Herro himself says he is on the same level as Luka and Trae Young. Miss me with that lowering expectations on him bullsh*t. He either needs to produce at that high level or get the f*ck out.

He just needs to get TF out at this point, with $90M allocated to Jimmy/Bam we simply need Tyler’s money going to a true running mate to those 2 guys. Herro isn’t it, has never been it. Doesn’t play defense and is a “good”
Offensive player. Better without him every time he goes down.

My guy, you're not going to find a 'true' running mate for what Herro is being paid. He got paid 27m this season.

Sure, there are anomalies, but they are extremely rare and hard to fine (i.e. Brunson).

Right it’s likely going to take Herros 29 plus Terrys 25 or Duncan’s 19. Or in the case of a Mitchell or Ingram, Herro 1 of the young guys, and 1-2 of the vets which is completely fine with me.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[Grumpy Heat Fan]

Damn it’s 2024 and majority still don’t think LeBron is the GOAT?!?!

The MJ nut hugging is kinda wild tbh. I watched MJ growing up and like the level of talent just between that era and now is wild different. Don't think you can compare accolades really. So I'll let MJ have his but LeBron career is way more impressive.

I was MJ all day up until a couple seasons ago, what LeBron has done at 40 is just unreal. This dude has been dominating the league for more than half of his life.

Yea talent is super different, LeBron is simply just the bigger stronger faster more skilled player between the 2. It’s not a diss to MJ, it just is what it is at this point.

What wild is, health permitting and if he can win championships Wemby is probably going to make all the MJ/LeBron debates all these years irrelevant lol

Lebron is on roids

and just because he's playing at 40 doesn't make his peak greater than MJ's

like what.

[Grumpy Heat Fan]

Damn it’s 2024 and majority still don’t think LeBron is the GOAT?!?!

The MJ nut hugging is kinda wild tbh. I watched MJ growing up and like the level of talent just between that era and now is wild different. Don't think you can compare accolades really. So I'll let MJ have his but LeBron career is way more impressive.

"MJ nut hugging"

bruh.


and nevermind the fact the NBA weakened the game to allow for more scoring and highlight plays for wing players.

If MJ played in todays weak ass league, he'd average 50. He averaged 37 ppg in 88 during a time when there was no flagrant fouls and bigs were literally camping in the paint waiting for you to drive to the basket. Go watch MJ tapes, he had to develop a killer pull up jumper because he would get past his defender and be met with bigs, and so MJ would pull up and take the midrange J for 2.

imagine MJ in todays league, with the paint completely open due to 3 point spacing and the defensive 3 second rule in 2001. he would get past his man and drive defenses crazy with help defense and still dunk on everyone.

[El Alonzo scowl]

The Heat organization thought Herro could be better than Booker. Herro himself says he is on the same level as Luka and Trae Young. Miss me with that lowering expectations on him bullsh*t. He either needs to produce at that high level or get the f*ck out.

So we're going to sh*t on a guy for believing in himself and perhaps making some outlandish claims 3 years ago when he was a 21 year old kid?

Lmao, ya'll never fail to amuse me.

I'm going to sh*t on him because he's overpaid trash who hurts the team.

[El Alonzo scowl]

2011 is why LeBron is not and will never be GOAT. MJ never **** his pants like that in a Finals. Do you guys not remember that he literally could not post up JJ Barea who is normal person size?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

The MJ nut hugging is kinda wild tbh. I watched MJ growing up and like the level of talent just between that era and now is wild different. Don't think you can compare accolades really. So I'll let MJ have his but LeBron career is way more impressive.

I was MJ all day up until a couple seasons ago, what LeBron has done at 40 is just unreal. This dude has been dominating the league for more than half of his life.

Yea talent is super different, LeBron is simply just the bigger stronger faster more skilled player between the 2. It’s not a diss to MJ, it just is what it is at this point.

What wild is, health permitting and if he can win championships Wemby is probably going to make all the MJ/LeBron debates all these years irrelevant lol

Lebron is on roids

and just because he's playing at 40 doesn't make his peak greater than MJ's

like what.

If LeBron was on roids he would’ve been outed by now, the league is far more talented now than it was then. Yall talk like Jordan won every year he was in the league, his team was stacked relative to the league to the point they made the ECF when he retired the 1st time I believe.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

2011 is why LeBron is not and will never be GOAT. MJ never **** his pants like that in a Finals. Do you guys not remember that he literally could not post up JJ Barea who is normal person size?

MJ **** his pants several times

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Damn it’s 2024 and majority still don’t think LeBron is the GOAT?!?!

The MJ nut hugging is kinda wild tbh. I watched MJ growing up and like the level of talent just between that era and now is wild different. Don't think you can compare accolades really. So I'll let MJ have his but LeBron career is way more impressive.

"MJ nut hugging"

bruh.


and nevermind the fact the NBA weakened the game to allow for more scoring and highlight plays for wing players.

If MJ played in todays weak ass league, he'd average 50. He averaged 37 ppg in 88 during a time when there was no flagrant fouls and bigs were literally camping in the paint waiting for you to drive to the basket. Go watch MJ tapes, he had to develop a killer pull up jumper because he would get past his defender and be met with bigs, and so MJ would pull up and take the midrange J for 2.

imagine MJ in todays league, with the paint completely open due to 3 point spacing and the defensive 3 second rule in 2001. he would get past his man and drive defenses crazy with help defense and still dunk on everyone.

Imagine LeBron in 1988 playing against all those little ass dudes with his skillset lmao.

[Kobewade11]

lebron against little dudes with his skillset


Wade is a better man than most. Cost him a chip, a finals MVP, and made him 'hand the keys over' on his own franchise.

[HeatFan_NC]

Tyler Herro’s career arch needs to become Reddick and Donte D type of role. I don’t think it can happen here though since the front office and coaching staff views seem cemented. Herro will thrive in his role once he’s out of here. Needs to be traded. Will be a win/win for both sides. Problem is both sides are stubborn.

It’s just as much on Herro as it is anyone else, let’s not give him a pass for thinking he’s a Luka level player as he’s said.

Herro is a good, streaky shooter and can light it up when he's on fire. However, he hasn't shown us much else in other areas of the game in the 5 years he's been in the league. If he was a star player, he should be a better rebounder, facilitator, and defender by now.

Outside of his shooting, JJJ is a more complete, well-rounded player than Herro is right now.

[HeatFan_NC]

2011 is why LeBron is not and will never be GOAT. MJ never **** his pants like that in a Finals. Do you guys not remember that he literally could not post up JJ Barea who is normal person size?

Barea is a normal person's size? I thought he was about 5'8"

Either way, I get your point. Lebron allowed Jason Terry to shut him down on defense and JT is only about 6'2" max.