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AirP. wrote:

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Bucks are done. Next year Dame, Giannis, and Middleton another year older. This isn’t going to end well for them

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Bucks are done. Next year Dame, Giannis, and Middleton another year older. This isn’t going to end well for them

This is why you cannot put your trust in older stars. Jimmy Butler and Damian Lillard both going down for us in the playoffs after Miami gave up, JJJ and Jovic plus picks. Also meant we wouldnt of gotten Rozier either, wed be here in a far worse situation.

This id unfurtunately the risk of havong 34+ year olds as your main go to players. I can see how Miami played hardball knowing these risk exist and giving up the farm is a short sighted way of going about business.

Now if your telling me your goinf for a Donovan Mitchell level player with 28 years or younger that you know you can still get 6-8 years of contention, yeah throw the farm at the young star.

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Bucks are done. Next year Dame, Giannis, and Middleton another year older. This isn’t going to end well for them

This is why you cannot put your trust in older stars. Jimmy Butler and Damian Lillard both going down for us in the playoffs after Miami gave up, JJJ and Jovic plus picks. Also meant we wouldnt of gotten Rozier either, wed be here in a far worse situation.

This id unfurtunately the risk of havong 34+ year olds as your main go to players. I can see how Miami played hardball knowing these risk exist and giving up the farm is a short sighted way of going about business.

Now if your telling me your goinf for a Donovan Mitchell level player with 28 years or younger that you know you can still get 6-8 years of contention, yeah throw the farm at the young star.

Some even wanted to send Bam for Lillard and have 2 somewhat injury prone stars lead the way

Can never predict injury so you never know what would have happened, I’d still take my chances with a Dame/Jimmy/Bam big 3 with Spo any day.

Dame wouldve been injured midseason playing with us.

We still got "The Package" primed for years to come.

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Johnny Fontane wrote:
Bucks are done. Next year Dame, Giannis, and Middleton another year older. This isn’t going to end well for them

This is why you cannot put your trust in older stars. Jimmy Butler and Damian Lillard both going down for us in the playoffs after Miami gave up, JJJ and Jovic plus picks. Also meant we wouldnt of gotten Rozier either, wed be here in a far worse situation.

This id unfurtunately the risk of havong 34+ year olds as your main go to players. I can see how Miami played hardball knowing these risk exist and giving up the farm is a short sighted way of going about business.

Now if your telling me your goinf for a Donovan Mitchell level player with 28 years or younger that you know you can still get 6-8 years of contention, yeah throw the farm at the young star.

Some even wanted to send Bam for Lillard and have 2 somewhat injury prone stars lead the way

Can never predict injury so you never know what would have happened, I’d still take my chances with a Dame/Jimmy/Bam big 3 with Spo any day.

Your right, you cannot predict injury but you can anticipate it based on data and age.

Knowing what we know now that would have been a terrible decision on your part. No Jimmy and No Lillard, and it looks like lillard has been broken for a bit, it didn't just happen in game three. Plus we would have been out on one of JJJ or Jovic or Both on two old broken stars, which is why I am glad smarter people than ourselves are making decisions, they wanted to unload old expiring of Lowry and picks and keep their young guys, it makes perfect sense.

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Bucks are done. Next year Dame, Giannis, and Middleton another year older. This isn’t going to end well for them

This is why you cannot put your trust in older stars. Jimmy Butler and Damian Lillard both going down for us in the playoffs after Miami gave up, JJJ and Jovic plus picks. Also meant we wouldnt of gotten Rozier either, wed be here in a far worse situation.

This id unfurtunately the risk of havong 34+ year olds as your main go to players. I can see how Miami played hardball knowing these risk exist and giving up the farm is a short sighted way of going about business.

Now if your telling me your goinf for a Donovan Mitchell level player with 28 years or younger that you know you can still get 6-8 years of contention, yeah throw the farm at the young star.

Still wouldn't trade away young players for Donovan Mitchell. Would trade Butler and Rozier first. Glad we didn't get lillard. Great player but I agree 34 yrs or older is too old to throw $50 million at hoping he will be there in playoffs.

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Bucks are done. Next year Dame, Giannis, and Middleton another year older. This isn’t going to end well for them

This is why you cannot put your trust in older stars. Jimmy Butler and Damian Lillard both going down for us in the playoffs after Miami gave up, JJJ and Jovic plus picks. Also meant we wouldnt of gotten Rozier either, wed be here in a far worse situation.

This id unfurtunately the risk of havong 34+ year olds as your main go to players. I can see how Miami played hardball knowing these risk exist and giving up the farm is a short sighted way of going about business.

Now if your telling me your goinf for a Donovan Mitchell level player with 28 years or younger that you know you can still get 6-8 years of contention, yeah throw the farm at the young star.

You throw the farm at that player and now you have 1-3 years of having to rebuild that roster trying to become a contender. Having to rely on trying to find the right type of role-players and hoping to get those key minimum vets or buyout players. On Michell, I don't think Miami has the assets to make that happen because they don't need Bam. I'm still a little confused what they were thinking with a Mitchell and Garland back court unless they're hoping to resign Mitchell and then package Garland and others (maybe Mobily or Allen) for another top tier player that they need.

Miami got Butler at age 29/30 and look at how little they did to shape the roster for him, there were years they gave the last older FA PF standing a contract to start for them.

Miami should just continue to try to be as good as they can every year while trying to acquire a higher-level talent whenever they can and if there are rumors a future higher level/top tier player is interested in Miami, clear out the cap space to sign them if they're not currently a contender.

I would inquire about Michell, B.Ingram and C.Cunningham this summer if I'm Miami and see if any fo them are obtainable.

Rozier, Duncan for Lillard this summer lol

Too bad the salaries don't match.

SoFlaKingReal wrote:Rozier, Duncan for Lillard this summer lol

Too bad the salaries don't match.

You could sign and trade Caleb to fill the difference in value, Caleb + Duncan + Rozier + 1 FRP

Duncan Salary $19.4M - 2024/25
Terry Rozier $24.9M - 2024/25
Grand Total Salary = $44.4M Total Salary

Damien Lillard = $48.8M - 2024/25

Caleb is going to be looking at a $13M per Year salary we cannot afford, however we can afford $7.5M if we resign Haywood to $7.5M as well.

Meaning we can give Caleb his $13M here by trading him away to another team.
Meaning we would be sending out $57.4M outgoing salary.
Having $44.4M incoming or They could attach Pat Conningtons $9M and we don't resign Haywood Highsmith, getting us within closer to the salary exchange.

IceColdCubano wrote:

SoFlaKingReal wrote:Rozier, Duncan for Lillard this summer lol

Too bad the salaries don't match.

You could sign and trade Caleb to fill the difference in value, Caleb + Duncan + Rozier + 1 FRP

Duncan Salary $19.4M - 2024/25
Terry Rozier $24.9M - 2024/25
Grand Total Salary = $44.4M Total Salary

Damien Lillard = $48.8M - 2024/25

Caleb is going to be looking at a $13M per Year salary we cannot afford, however we can afford $7.5M if we resign Haywood to $7.5M as well.

Meaning we can give Caleb his $13M here by trading him away to another team.
Meaning we would be sending out $57.4M outgoing salary.
Having $44.4M incoming or They could attach Pat Conningtons $9M and we don't resign Haywood Highsmith, getting us within closer to the salary exchange.

I'm not sure I'd trade for Lillard. I'd use some players and picks to get a younger and promising player like Mitchel.

I'd move Nico to 3, Bam to 4, and trade Herro. This would create a new build around Bam and a young guard. Develop Nico and continue to develop through the GLeague.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/the_10_greatest_trades_in_miami_heat_history/s1_16751_39846560

a little bit of heat history to reminisce

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Unless this game plan includes having Prime Dwade walking through the door suiting up and Miami shooters primed for another 50% 3pt shooting night, I don't foresee any mystical plan working. Did the team do a sacrifice to the basketball gods to invoke the spirits of Kobe Bryant into Caleb Martin, like the last years playoffs?

Spo got some votes

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I agree with this list to be honest, all top three coaches in voting deserved it to be honest.

AirP. wrote:
I would inquire about Michell, B.Ingram and C.Cunningham this summer if I'm Miami and see if any fo them are obtainable.

did you watch Ingram against the Thunder? He isnt a 1A or even a 1B scoring option come playoff time.

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AirP. wrote:
I would inquire about Michell, B.Ingram and C.Cunningham this summer if I'm Miami and see if any fo them are obtainable.

did you watch Ingram against the Thunder? He isnt a 1A or even a 1B scoring option come playoff time.

Too many question with Ingram unfortunately, he can't seem to stay healthy, we already have a knack for the injury bug with how hard we push our guys with our heavy switching defense during the regular season. Second he seems to get shut down rather easily it seems on some matchups and doesn't show much effort which is a no no here. Miami is looking for a 1A at the moment or at worst a 1B, but nothing less.

Weird, not seeing any comments about Bradley Beal being the whale we missed out on today.

Strange. Good thing the Suns still have 3yrs and $150m left on that deal with a NTC.

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I really don’t understand why we went away from everything that worked in game 2 and doubled down on everything that didn’t in game 1.