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IceColdCubano wrote:

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No brainer slam dunk Heat pick

Amazing defensive IQ for sure, fit for a bench role or six man off the bench, has Miami heat tattooed on his forehead based on his play for sure. To me he is too small for my liking, really want something that has upside to elite player which is why I am so hard on for Shannon. I just don't see

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IceColdCubano wrote:

MettaWorldPanda wrote:

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No brainer slam dunk Heat pick

Amazing defensive IQ for sure, fit for a bench role or six man off the bench, has Miami heat tattooed on his forehead based on his play for sure. To me he is too small for my liking, really want something that has upside to elite player which is why I am so hard on for Shannon. I just don't see

I’m not sold on Shannon Jr yet. Sure he had some big scoring games this year but Uconn absolutely stifled him. I watched that game in full and it was bad. Devin Carter on the other hand played well against them. I mean 6’3 200 pounds is great size for a PG and he also has a 6’9 wingspan. I look at Shannon Jr and see more a Kelly Oubre type player in the league.

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Pre lottery selection top 15 mock draft

1. Detroit Pistons- SF/PF 6'9 Zaccharie Risacher France

2. Washington Wizards- C 7'1 Alexadre Sarr France

3. Charlotte Hornets- PG/SG 6'3 Rob Dillingham Kentucky

4. Portland Trailblazers- SF 6'6 Dalton Knecht Tennessee

5. San Antonio Spurs- C 7'2 Donovan Clingan Uconn

6. Toronto Raptors- PG 6'6 Nikola Topic Serbia

7. Memphis Grizzlies- SF 6'8 Cody Williams Colorado

8. Utah Jazz- PG/SG 6'3 Reed Sheppard Kentucky

9. Houston Rockets- SG 6'5 Ja'Kobe Walker Baylor

10. Atlanta Hawks- PG/SG 6'6 Stephon Castle Uconn

11. Chicago Bulls- SF 6'10 Matas Buzelis G League

12. OKC Thunder- SF/PF 6'8 Ron Holland G League

13. Sacramento Kings- PG/SG 6'3 Jared McCain Duke

14. Portland Trailiblazers- SF/PF 6'9 Tidjane Salaun France

15. Miami Heat- PG 6'3 Devin Carter Providence

If Terrence Shannon is still on the board you take him and run. 6'-7" SG 225lbs 6'-8" Wingspan 8'6" standing reach with 38" Vert

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The only problem is he has a hearing upcoming in May, for an alleged rape all things point to him being innocent though following up with all his hearings, did my research, sounds like the girl is trying to get back at him. I think May 10 is the next hearing, if it all goes well, giving him the benefit of the doubt so far. Dude is too good to ignore. Also he is 23 years old, a ready now talent.

He's been on my radar lately.

He's older, which is not necessarily a bad thing for our geriatric organization, because he's more ready.

I really love his size, slashing ability, finishing ability, and overall natural scoring ability. He has great tools, with some polish he might be a 3 level scorer that can defend some too.

rate_ wrote:Like Tristan da Silva. Good IQ and size with some range. Ready now prospect that could play both forward positions.

RexBoyWonder wrote:

MettaWorldPanda wrote:

IceColdCubano wrote:
Amazing defensive IQ for sure, fit for a bench role or six man off the bench, has Miami heat tattooed on his forehead based on his play for sure. To me he is too small for my liking, really want something that has upside to elite player which is why I am so hard on for Shannon. I just don't see

I’m not sold on Shannon Jr yet. Sure he had some big scoring games this year but Uconn absolutely stifled him. I watched that game in full and it was bad. Devin Carter on the other hand played well against them. I mean 6’3 200 pounds is great size for a PG and he also has a 6’9 wingspan. I look at Shannon Jr and see more a Kelly Oubre type player in the league.

Sure Carter looks smart, tough, plays hard - a great guy to bring off the bench as a backup PG for sure.

But what's really the ceiling of a 6'3 guard with a shaky jump shot, average speed, not a great passer?

We're using our highest pick in years on a career backup PG? Just keep Delon Wright.

MettaWorldPanda wrote:

RexBoyWonder wrote:

MettaWorldPanda wrote:I’m not sold on Shannon Jr yet. Sure he had some big scoring games this year but Uconn absolutely stifled him. I watched that game in full and it was bad. Devin Carter on the other hand played well against them. I mean 6’3 200 pounds is great size for a PG and he also has a 6’9 wingspan. I look at Shannon Jr and see more a Kelly Oubre type player in the league.

Sure Carter looks smart, tough, plays hard - a great guy to bring off the bench as a backup PG for sure.

But what's really the ceiling of a 6'3 guard with a shaky jump shot, average speed, not a great passer?

We're using our highest pick in years on a career backup PG? Just keep Delon Wright.

If we go the super high upside talent route then it's going to be Isiah Collier for me. He's 6'5 210 and has potential to compliment Herro and Rozier due to his size and attack the basket type game.

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IceColdCubano wrote:

MettaWorldPanda wrote:

RexBoyWonder wrote:
Sure Carter looks smart, tough, plays hard - a great guy to bring off the bench as a backup PG for sure.

But what's really the ceiling of a 6'3 guard with a shaky jump shot, average speed, not a great passer?

We're using our highest pick in years on a career backup PG? Just keep Delon Wright.

If we go the super high upside talent route then it's going to be Isiah Collier for me. He's 6'5 210 and has potential to compliment Herro and Rozier due to his size and attack the basket type game.

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Yeah he was another guy I was looking into he is a sleeper for sure. He is considered to have more paint touches than any other player in the draft with how often he finds himself there, super quick first step, and has that slithery ability similar to Dwade where he just comes around a screens really well, stays really close to the ground dribbles really low. He doesn't play above the rim so isn't Ja Morant level explosive Jumping over players, however he is below the rim creative scorer for sure.

Seabass777 wrote:We need to draft this guy, qui qui

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DayofMourning wrote:

Seabass777 wrote:We need to draft this guy, qui qui

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Why brother Bass?

RexBoyWonder wrote:Would you agree that the highest upside guys that might drop to #15 are Edey and Collier?

This is a year to swing for the fences

MettaWorldPanda wrote:

RexBoyWonder wrote:Would you agree that the highest upside guys that might drop to #15 are Edey and Collier?

This is a year to swing for the fences

Edey does not fit Spo’s brand of basketball and would never see the court with Bam. Would be an absolute waste of a pick. As for Collier i have this terrible feeling he’ll be signing on with Klutch. Maybe we finally take a Klutch player but not optimistic. What are we going on year 12 now of never dealing with Rich Paul. I know you want to poo poo on Devin Carter but the whole Heat organization is going to be on him big time just like JJJ.