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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#521 » by Kobewade11 » Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:22 pm

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He went to Jaylen first to say good game. Camera panned to rest of team going straight to locker room. Awful leadership.


If he did that in a playoff game, I'd be annoyed, but it's regular season. He's networking n recruiting, lol. Riley isn't amused, I'm sure of that tho :lol:

We gotta stop with this stuff..the guys are just friends, Bam isn’t recruiting.
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#522 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:24 pm

ZoStrong wrote:Bam, after another 8 to 10 years of his prime in Heat n continuing to improve over next few years, will end up only behind Wade as the best Heat player of all time. (LeBron not counting in my book due to not enough years w Heat). My prediction, don't hate


I agree although I count LeBron as 2 lol, Bam could be 3 but he’s going to have to have a ton of success post Jimmy winning wise to top him and like you said take another step or 2 in his game. Hes already top 7 in 7 different all time Heat statistics, he will finish 1, 2, or 3 in all of them when it’s all said and done
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#523 » by ZoStrong » Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:28 pm

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ZoStrong wrote:Bam, after another 8 to 10 years of his prime in Heat n continuing to improve over next few years, will end up only behind Wade as the best Heat player of all time. (LeBron not counting in my book due to not enough years w Heat). My prediction, don't hate


I agree although I count LeBron as 2 lol, Bam could be 3 but he’s going to have to have a ton of success post Jimmy winning wise to top him and like you said take another step or 2 in his game. Hes already top 7 in 7 different all time Heat statistics, he will finish 1, 2, or 3 in all of them when it’s all said and done


I cannot count LeBon's entire career outside Heat. Ik 4 straight Finals is a huge advantage over Bam rn, but I do think Bam will make several more finals w Heat. Possibly couple rings and couple DPOYs too
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#524 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:32 pm

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ZoStrong wrote:Bam, after another 8 to 10 years of his prime in Heat n continuing to improve over next few years, will end up only behind Wade as the best Heat player of all time. (LeBron not counting in my book due to not enough years w Heat). My prediction, don't hate


I agree although I count LeBron as 2 lol, Bam could be 3 but he’s going to have to have a ton of success post Jimmy winning wise to top him and like you said take another step or 2 in his game. Hes already top 7 in 7 different all time Heat statistics, he will finish 1, 2, or 3 in all of them when it’s all said and done


I cannot count LeBon's entire career outside Heat. Ik 4 straight Finals is a huge advantage over Bam rn, but I do think Bam will make several more finals w Heat. Possibly couple rings and couple DPOYs too


We can only hope! He’s been the best defender in the league for years now but we don’t have the regular season success needed as a team to win those awards unfortunately.
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#525 » by BadMofoPimp » Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:38 pm

Bourne85 wrote:Bam isn’t better than Bosh. You guys have bad memories lol


Bam hasn't learned to flop as well as Bosh.



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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#526 » by marson » Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:46 pm

We gotta stop wearing the Heat Culture City edition. We are like 1-8 on that jersey lol

Hope Terry and Jimmy come back soon.
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#527 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:59 pm

marson wrote:We gotta stop wearing the Heat Culture City edition. We are like 1-8 on that jersey lol

Hope Terry and Jimmy come back soon.


We’ve disgraced those jerseys and now they’re a joke
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#528 » by Daffy » Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:06 am

marson wrote:We gotta stop wearing the Heat Culture City edition. We are like 1-8 on that jersey lol

Hope Terry and Jimmy come back soon.


Really hoping Terry's injury is something he can return from this season. He efficiency wasn't the best but he was finding guys and defense was alright at times. Definitely was an upgrade over what Lowry was giving us in the end.
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#529 » by ZoStrong » Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:07 am

marson wrote:We gotta stop wearing the Heat Culture City edition. We are like 1-8 on that jersey lol

Hope Terry and Jimmy come back soon.


I hate them. It's a jumping the shark moment for me.

Ik, they wanna sell jerseys. But it's like my gf having great tîts. I feel great and other guys noticing them and being jealous of me, all good. Now I don't wanna go around wearing a T-shirt saying "My gf got great tîts!!" I look like an idiot, u know what I mean, lol
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#530 » by eddieheatfan » Mon Feb 12, 2024 3:14 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:And let’s just completely disregard the fact that he’s already better than Bosh all time in Miami, you don’t think he won’t solidify that 100% over the course of his career? You are fuxking faded if not lol





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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#531 » by eddieheatfan » Mon Feb 12, 2024 3:15 am

marson wrote:We gotta stop wearing the Heat Culture City edition. We are like 1-8 on that jersey lol

Hope Terry and Jimmy come back soon.
whats the current status of terry and jrich? any idea on how long are they going to be out??
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#532 » by marson » Mon Feb 12, 2024 4:12 am

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marson wrote:We gotta stop wearing the Heat Culture City edition. We are like 1-8 on that jersey lol

Hope Terry and Jimmy come back soon.
whats the current status of terry and jrich? any idea on how long are they going to be out??


Might be a few days or weeks for Terry and that means Alondes would get his shot
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#533 » by contract » Mon Feb 12, 2024 4:49 am

I completely forgot this game. I should be ashamed of myself. :oops:
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#534 » by Pokuokic » Mon Feb 12, 2024 7:32 am

Watching Bam air ball hook shots and getting bodied while being defended by Brown/Tatum is why he should never play PF, the bigger stronger SF's with better quickness/reactions will eat him alive 1 on 1 when defending him.

If JJJ is not back to pre-injury form getting out of the play-in will be tough he's the only really difference maker other than Butler and he does it within the flow of the game, sad for Terry (hopefully its nothing serious) but if it means JJJ is back to his early season it's not the worst thing.
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#535 » by dubasilva » Mon Feb 12, 2024 9:35 am

Pokuokic wrote:Watching Bam air ball hook shots and getting bodied while being defended by Brown/Tatum is why he should never play PF, the bigger stronger SF's with better quickness/reactions will eat him alive 1 on 1 when defending him.

If JJJ is not back to pre-injury form getting out of the play-in will be tough he's the only really difference maker other than Butler and he does it within the flow of the game, sad for Terry (hopefully its nothing serious) but if it means JJJ is back to his early season it's not the worst thing.


Then the FO needs to look at this deeper. If he can't pay C against dominating 7', or can't score against "the bigger stronger SF's with better quickness/reactions" then we have a real dilemma, folks.

You win championships with superstars. We did this with Wade/Shaq and then Wade/Lebron/Bosh.

Can we win with this build? I don't think so.
Can we win it with Bam? I think so, but we need another star-caliber player + Jimmy.
Herro played well in the second half yesterday, but he's not the answer. Someone said here Herro has not gone to the line in February. The dude is a guard. C'mon.

I'd see how we finish the year. It might be time to find a new home for Jimmy and hopefully get something interesting back. Find a new home for Herro and pray to get at least a first-round pick. We might need to draft a Star. Hopefully, we get lucky. Luck is also important.

Continue to develop through the G-League. The Heat is the best development team, but teams will eventually catch up.

We have the structure and the coaching staff to do this.

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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#536 » by IceColdCubano » Mon Feb 12, 2024 12:31 pm

dubasilva wrote:
Pokuokic wrote:Watching Bam air ball hook shots and getting bodied while being defended by Brown/Tatum is why he should never play PF, the bigger stronger SF's with better quickness/reactions will eat him alive 1 on 1 when defending him.

If JJJ is not back to pre-injury form getting out of the play-in will be tough he's the only really difference maker other than Butler and he does it within the flow of the game, sad for Terry (hopefully its nothing serious) but if it means JJJ is back to his early season it's not the worst thing.


Then the FO needs to look at this deeper. If he can't pay C against dominating 7', or can't score against "the bigger stronger SF's with better quickness/reactions" then we have a real dilemma, folks.

You win championships with superstars. We did this with Wade/Shaq and then Wade/Lebron/Bosh.

Can we win with this build? I don't think so.
Can we win it with Bam? I think so, but we need another star-caliber player + Jimmy.
Herro played well in the second half yesterday, but he's not the answer. Someone said here Herro has not gone to the line in February. The dude is a guard. C'mon.

I'd see how we finish the year. It might be time to find a new home for Jimmy and hopefully get something interesting back. Find a new home for Herro and pray to get at least a first-round pick. We might need to draft a Star. Hopefully, we get lucky. Luck is also important.

Continue to develop through the G-League. The Heat is the best development team, but teams will eventually catch up.

We have the structure and the coaching staff to do this.

Go Heat!


Drafting for a star means bottoming out, and with this team unless your trading pretty much your top 5 players, Spo will coach himself into a playing birth or just outside looking in. Which means we will never have the best pick or at least a top 3 pick.

I do agree that selling high and getting assets is the most likely scenario, picks from other teams to add to our war chest is what will be needed to go swinging for a superstar wanting to get out of a team somewhere.

I don't know if your watching but the days of multiple franchises not being competent is starting to be far less in between. The changes to the CBA, and the Apron in the last 10 or so years has created a need for having savvy FO personal, who manage the cap better, as well as put good players around their starts and field much better asset capital for trades, all this is leading to much better build teams. The scouting departments on teams are starting to improve. This is shifting the narrative of stars wanting to stay, just like it was before with sign and trades, you rarely see that anymore. Superstars also don't hit free agency rarely these days unless they have a negative thing attached to them, like Kyrie allowed to go into free agency a year where barely any teams had money and his choices were limited.

If you ask any other FO outside our own they would tell you that we have been successful in the Jimmy build, even though the parts seemingly look like they may not work and or have lots of flaws when prime time hits we manage to outdo our expectations every time.

The end of this build is near for sure, if not guaranteed by this offseason regardless of where it ends. I will temper expectations because Herro will not get traded for spare parts, the FO will not take that loss, that is the equivalent of saying to Jimmy they held onto an asset that did not help for far too long wasting his time. I think he has value, there's a gm out there that thinks a change of scenery for him would do him wonders or being in a different system that does not value defense. The hard conversation will happen with Jimmy, because while I think Miami would love for him to retire a Heater, its going to be awkard in the negotiations because theres no way that you can tell me were going to give him an extension at max or near max money to watch this man play 1/2 a season, and in that half only care about 1/5 of those games.

Bam is the ultimate glue guy, however the way the league is trending you need to pair him with some size and shooting. Whatever you may think of him on the offensive side he more than makes up for it on the defense. He can be your third guy on championship for sure, I don't think you can win with him as your 2nd best that is proven. Also the Jimmy & Bam mix has been hell awkward with them not fitting at all. take up the same space on the floor neither shot the 3ball at all or enough, their will to win, and defense has made the gap shorter though.
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#537 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:35 pm

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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#538 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:42 pm

IceColdCubano wrote:
dubasilva wrote:
Pokuokic wrote:Watching Bam air ball hook shots and getting bodied while being defended by Brown/Tatum is why he should never play PF, the bigger stronger SF's with better quickness/reactions will eat him alive 1 on 1 when defending him.

If JJJ is not back to pre-injury form getting out of the play-in will be tough he's the only really difference maker other than Butler and he does it within the flow of the game, sad for Terry (hopefully its nothing serious) but if it means JJJ is back to his early season it's not the worst thing.


Then the FO needs to look at this deeper. If he can't pay C against dominating 7', or can't score against "the bigger stronger SF's with better quickness/reactions" then we have a real dilemma, folks.

You win championships with superstars. We did this with Wade/Shaq and then Wade/Lebron/Bosh.

Can we win with this build? I don't think so.
Can we win it with Bam? I think so, but we need another star-caliber player + Jimmy.
Herro played well in the second half yesterday, but he's not the answer. Someone said here Herro has not gone to the line in February. The dude is a guard. C'mon.

I'd see how we finish the year. It might be time to find a new home for Jimmy and hopefully get something interesting back. Find a new home for Herro and pray to get at least a first-round pick. We might need to draft a Star. Hopefully, we get lucky. Luck is also important.

Continue to develop through the G-League. The Heat is the best development team, but teams will eventually catch up.

We have the structure and the coaching staff to do this.

Go Heat!


Drafting for a star means bottoming out, and with this team unless your trading pretty much your top 5 players, Spo will coach himself into a playing birth or just outside looking in. Which means we will never have the best pick or at least a top 3 pick.

I do agree that selling high and getting assets is the most likely scenario, picks from other teams to add to our war chest is what will be needed to go swinging for a superstar wanting to get out of a team somewhere.

I don't know if your watching but the days of multiple franchises not being competent is starting to be far less in between. The changes to the CBA, and the Apron in the last 10 or so years has created a need for having savvy FO personal, who manage the cap better, as well as put good players around their starts and field much better asset capital for trades, all this is leading to much better build teams. The scouting departments on teams are starting to improve. This is shifting the narrative of stars wanting to stay, just like it was before with sign and trades, you rarely see that anymore. Superstars also don't hit free agency rarely these days unless they have a negative thing attached to them, like Kyrie allowed to go into free agency a year where barely any teams had money and his choices were limited.

If you ask any other FO outside our own they would tell you that we have been successful in the Jimmy build, even though the parts seemingly look like they may not work and or have lots of flaws when prime time hits we manage to outdo our expectations every time.

The end of this build is near for sure, if not guaranteed by this offseason regardless of where it ends. I will temper expectations because Herro will not get traded for spare parts, the FO will not take that loss, that is the equivalent of saying to Jimmy they held onto an asset that did not help for far too long wasting his time. I think he has value, there's a gm out there that thinks a change of scenery for him would do him wonders or being in a different system that does not value defense. The hard conversation will happen with Jimmy, because while I think Miami would love for him to retire a Heater, its going to be awkard in the negotiations because theres no way that you can tell me were going to give him an extension at max or near max money to watch this man play 1/2 a season, and in that half only care about 1/5 of those games.

Bam is the ultimate glue guy, however the way the league is trending you need to pair him with some size and shooting. Whatever you may think of him on the offensive side he more than makes up for it on the defense. He can be your third guy on championship for sure, I don't think you can win with him as your 2nd best that is proven. Also the Jimmy & Bam mix has been hell awkward with them not fitting at all. take up the same space on the floor neither shot the 3ball at all or enough, their will to win, and defense has made the gap shorter though.


They need to add Bam shooting the 3 in the flow of the offense, especially above the break wide open 3s. If he’s winning 3 point contests and ish vs our other bigs and I know he used to beat Lowry as well, it’s time.

I have a feeling it’s a coaching staff/scheme decision because he himself has mentioned several times how he wants to mix it up and one play attack you, the next crash the offensive boards for a put back, hit a 3, hit a midrange etc and be able to mix it up.

If it’s not a coaching thing then they need to be getting on to him and telling him to shoot, regular season is the perfect place for trial and error and getting a good feel for shots in an in game setting. Idk why we haven’t added it but every single year we see non stop videos of him working on it with the team
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#539 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:56 pm

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Between this, Horford pulling his arm down on a drive either prior or after this, and that weak ass call on Martin after Haywood missed the open 3 the stripes were not on our side :cry:
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Re: Heat vs Celtics 2/11 @2pm 

Post#540 » by Bishop45 » Mon Feb 12, 2024 2:29 pm

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