Heat vs Grizz - 24th January @ 7:30PM - The Rozier debut??
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Herro is an easy target and some of the criticism is warranted. However you simply need more from your “stars” Jimmy and Bam
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MettaWorldPanda wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:MettaWorldPanda wrote:We seriously need something. It’s as much of a black hole as the PG spot. Rozier will be fine but he also needs a backup.
DSJ was coming if we got Dame, maybe if they’re serious about DFS they’ll try for him. Very good defender
I can see why his name was mentioned. This team very well knows it needs a defensive catalyst at the 4 but we also need the size with it. Not 6’5 Highsmith or Martin
DFS is 6’7 with a 7 foot wingspan so that’s a start
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balla345 wrote:Trade herro for a good PF and get a buyout PG and we good
There is no trade involving Herro for a PF that’s going to interest the other team. Maybe Duncan and a pick with Jovic attached has a better chance
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We need a tough stretch to get Duncan moved to the starting lineup. Unfortunately Terry didn’t start tonight so that may not count towards that but might as well go ahead and get it out of the way from the start
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oreon wrote:HeatFanDan wrote:oreon wrote:
I am not even worried. Even if they went 15 - 25 for the next 40 games I wouldn't be worried. I know come playoff time we gonna get MVP Jimmy which raises everyone else's level as well. We've seen it past 2 seasons
Disagree. You can't just be giving games away. "Playoff Jimmy" is out the window if we don't make it in.
Look at the standings, there's no way they don't make it in. The worst they'll do is the 8th. There's no scenario where the Bulls or Hawks pass Heat in the standings. We have too much of a cushion and those teams suck even more
Stranger things have happened.
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A lot of this does go on Spo. He has a veteran basketball team playing unorganized basketball
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twix2500 wrote:Enso wrote:To the herro Stan’s we’re just venting it wasn’t all Hereo tonight most of the team sucked actually. I think the biggest issue was things were too free flowy so that’s on spo. There’s no reason why we should lose this game with the talent gap but seems like teams don’t run traditional plays anymore it’s all dribble hand off perimeter and pnr.
Old school ball you run plays for Jimmy and slow down the game. We did it a bit but nowhere near enough.
Spo believes in Herro so the ball will be in his hands unless Butler overrides it
To me it seems as if Herro is being molded at all cost to play in a particular system, Spo’s system, and since Herro is a stricky player, he needs to get early touches. Wade was a slow starter in games but would finish strong, the difference is Wade’s Godly athleticism made up for it. Herro lacks strength and athleticism, but has the skills to compensate given the touches, but Spo’s system relies on players by committee.
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oreon wrote:HeatFanDan wrote:oreon wrote:
I am not even worried. Even if they went 15 - 25 for the next 40 games I wouldn't be worried. I know come playoff time we gonna get MVP Jimmy which raises everyone else's level as well. We've seen it past 2 seasons
Disagree. You can't just be giving games away. "Playoff Jimmy" is out the window if we don't make it in.
Look at the standings, there's no way they don't make it in. The worst they'll do is the 8th. There's no scenario where the Bulls or Hawks pass Heat in the standings. We have too much of a cushion and those teams suck even more
Personally I’d prefer to not be in the play in tourney this year.
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twix2500 wrote:A lot of this does go on Spo. He has a veteran basketball team playing unorganized basketball
Really bad game from him start to finish
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That one Terry/Bam pick and roll was nice. Rozier ran it better than I've seen in years. The corner 3 is gonna be wiiiiiiiiiiiiide open with that kind of finisher inside.
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twix2500 wrote:A lot of this does go on Spo. He has a veteran basketball team playing unorganized basketball
We looked like a g league team playing a pre season game. Played down to our opponent. Would be curious to hear spo in timeouts. If he was calm and none chalant or had a sense of urgency.
This has to be Nikki spos fault she’s prob doing witchcraft on spo and the team since the contract
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KingDavid wrote:That one Terry/Bam pick and roll was nice. Rozier ran it better than I've seen in years. The corner 3 is gonna be wiiiiiiiiiiiiide open with that kind of finisher inside.
Just gotta run it lol I guess we’ll see what happens. We have a tough stretch of games here over the next 4, this slump isnt ending any time soon
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This team is just BORED. It's almost the all-star break. This is basically like the month of December for these guys if they were corporate employees - no one really does any work and people just don't care. They just want to go and enjoy the holidays.
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4 games ago we were 1 game out of the 1 seed, we’ve lost 4 straight to FAR inferior teams and now we’re tied for 6th, 3 games out of 5th.
This is why I stopped caring about keeping up with the standings, we have a chance to snag home court and maybe even make the guys at 2-3 sweat and we respond by losing the the bottom 6 raptors without Siakam, the Hawks without Trae, Orlando who we’ve owned over the last 13 matchups, and the bottom 6 grizzlies without 8 of their top 9 players. Absolute disgrace of a team tbh
This is why I stopped caring about keeping up with the standings, we have a chance to snag home court and maybe even make the guys at 2-3 sweat and we respond by losing the the bottom 6 raptors without Siakam, the Hawks without Trae, Orlando who we’ve owned over the last 13 matchups, and the bottom 6 grizzlies without 8 of their top 9 players. Absolute disgrace of a team tbh
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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:4 games ago we were 1 game out of the 1 seed, we’ve lost 4 straight to FAR inferior teams and now we’re tied for 6th, 3 games out of 5th.
This is why I stopped caring about keeping up with the standings, we have a chance to snag home court and maybe even make the guys at 2-3 sweat and we respond by losing the the bottom 6 raptors without Siakam, the Hawks without Trae, Orlando who we’ve owned over the last 13 matchups, and the bottom 6 grizzlies without 8 of their top 9 players. Absolute disgrace of a team tbh
Very disappointing.
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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:4 games ago we were 1 game out of the 1 seed, we’ve lost 4 straight to FAR inferior teams and now we’re tied for 6th, 3 games out of 5th.
This is why I stopped caring about keeping up with the standings, we have a chance to snag home court and maybe even make the guys at 2-3 sweat and we respond by losing the the bottom 6 raptors without Siakam, the Hawks without Trae, Orlando who we’ve owned over the last 13 matchups, and the bottom 6 grizzlies without 8 of their top 9 players. Absolute disgrace of a team tbh
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carnageta wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:4 games ago we were 1 game out of the 1 seed, we’ve lost 4 straight to FAR inferior teams and now we’re tied for 6th, 3 games out of 5th.
This is why I stopped caring about keeping up with the standings, we have a chance to snag home court and maybe even make the guys at 2-3 sweat and we respond by losing the the bottom 6 raptors without Siakam, the Hawks without Trae, Orlando who we’ve owned over the last 13 matchups, and the bottom 6 grizzlies without 8 of their top 9 players. Absolute disgrace of a team tbh
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I know man but the **** is infuriating I want the 2 and a half hours I just wasted slamming my head through my tv back!!!!
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ya know i had a similar thought lolEnso wrote:twix2500 wrote:A lot of this does go on Spo. He has a veteran basketball team playing unorganized basketball
We looked like a g league team playing a pre season game. Played down to our opponent. Would be curious to hear spo in timeouts. If he was calm and none chalant or had a sense of urgency.
This has to be Nikki spos fault she’s prob doing witchcraft on spo and the team since the contract
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eddieheatfan wrote:ya know i had a similar thought lolEnso wrote:twix2500 wrote:A lot of this does go on Spo. He has a veteran basketball team playing unorganized basketball
We looked like a g league team playing a pre season game. Played down to our opponent. Would be curious to hear spo in timeouts. If he was calm and none chalant or had a sense of urgency.
This has to be Nikki spos fault she’s prob doing witchcraft on spo and the team since the contract
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Honestly, I feel like a lot of the issue we're talking about go away when Jimmy decides to re-establish himself. This team starts and ends with him, and will go as far as he takes us. He needs to start to pick it up, perhaps earlier than he has in years past. This team needs him to go alpha and pull everyone in line with him.
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