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**NBA Draft Discussion 2024**

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If Bub is still growing into his frame then he's another guard that has boom potential IMO.


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Post#763 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon May 13, 2024 6:01 pm

lastb1ckman wrote:Kolek kinda small, only 6' 1.25'' without shoes. 6' 2.75'' Wingspan

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Let’s not over think this fam. This is our guy. Current number 1 on my board. I have a solid track record with this aside from Ivan Rabb right DOM? Lol
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If Bub is still growing into his frame then he's another guard that has boom potential IMO.


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Not even 19 yet. Already looking a bit more filled out than during his freshman season.

Dude moves with the ball like a legit NBA lead guard and can create looks on command. The big question for me is if he can get strong enough to play thru the physicality of the NBA game. He was everything but a slasher in college--14% of shots at the rim finishing at 54%
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Post#766 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon May 13, 2024 6:17 pm

Having Jovic and Da Silva at the 4 spot will always give us a tall option that can shoot. Our bench immediately gets stretched. Also allows us to get a traditional big that can block shots behind Bam. We won’t be slaves to the undersized 6’5 PF anymore.
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Post#767 » by AirP. » Mon May 13, 2024 6:33 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Having Jovic and Da Silva at the 4 spot will always give us a tall option that can shoot. Our bench immediately gets stretched. Also allows us to get a traditional big that can block shots behind Bam. We won’t be slaves to the undersized 6’5 PF anymore.

Get either a center with size to play behind and sometimes with Bam or go get a PG talent to be your starter in 2-3 seasons. Miami currently has Jovic at PF; you can pick up some type of vet stretch 4 behind him or Bam slides over for some minutes at the 4.
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Post#768 » by lastb1ckman » Mon May 13, 2024 7:06 pm

Yes, fill a position of need. We don't need another 3&D forward. A PG or a backup center. We have so many forwards already.
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Post#769 » by twix2500 » Mon May 13, 2024 7:13 pm

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If Bub is still growing into his frame then he's another guard that has boom potential IMO.


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Not even 19 yet. Already looking a bit more filled out than during his freshman season.

Dude moves with the ball like a legit NBA lead guard and can create looks on command. The big question for me is if he can get strong enough to play thru the physicality of the NBA game. He was everything but a slasher in college--14% of shots at the rim finishing at 54%


Glad to see he working on his shot but man he looks uncomfortable in those shooting drills.
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Post#770 » by twix2500 » Mon May 13, 2024 7:15 pm

lastb1ckman wrote:Yes, fill a position of need. We don't need another 3&D forward. A PG or a backup center. We have so many forwards already.


The center part, Spo is the biggest problem with the center position. There only been two centers Spo been comfortable with and that Bam and Joel Anthony
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Post#771 » by greg4012 » Mon May 13, 2024 7:18 pm

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Not even 19 yet. Already looking a bit more filled out than during his freshman season.

Dude moves with the ball like a legit NBA lead guard and can create looks on command. The big question for me is if he can get strong enough to play thru the physicality of the NBA game. He was everything but a slasher in college--14% of shots at the rim finishing at 54%


Glad to see he working on his shot but man he looks uncomfortable in those shooting drills.


He def looks focused on maintaining form at the expense of speed there . Have you checked out his highlights?
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Post#772 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon May 13, 2024 7:22 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Having Jovic and Da Silva at the 4 spot will always give us a tall option that can shoot. Our bench immediately gets stretched. Also allows us to get a traditional big that can block shots behind Bam. We won’t be slaves to the undersized 6’5 PF anymore.

Get either a center with size to play behind and sometimes with Bam or go get a PG talent to be your starter in 2-3 seasons. Miami currently has Jovic at PF; you can pick up some type of vet stretch 4 behind him or Bam slides over for some minutes at the 4.

Vet stretch 4’s are a rarity and also hard for us to afford considering our cap space. A cheap Center is much more realistic. The market for stretch 4’s is highly competetive.
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Post#774 » by lastb1ckman » Mon May 13, 2024 7:41 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Having Jovic and Da Silva at the 4 spot will always give us a tall option that can shoot. Our bench immediately gets stretched. Also allows us to get a traditional big that can block shots behind Bam. We won’t be slaves to the undersized 6’5 PF anymore.

Get either a center with size to play behind and sometimes with Bam or go get a PG talent to be your starter in 2-3 seasons. Miami currently has Jovic at PF; you can pick up some type of vet stretch 4 behind him or Bam slides over for some minutes at the 4.

Vet stretch 4’s are a rarity and also hard for us to afford considering our cap space. A cheap Center is much more realistic. The market for stretch 4’s is highly competetive.


We literally have Jovic though, and he looks good! Why draft an older player who plays the same position? Unless you want him to play the 3, but we already have Jaime. And Da Silva is pretty much the same age.

We have no pgs in the development pipeline, and the non Bam minutes some of the most detrimental minutes for the Heat every game. The cheap centers haven't been working.
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Post#775 » by AirP. » Mon May 13, 2024 7:42 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Having Jovic and Da Silva at the 4 spot will always give us a tall option that can shoot. Our bench immediately gets stretched. Also allows us to get a traditional big that can block shots behind Bam. We won’t be slaves to the undersized 6’5 PF anymore.

Get either a center with size to play behind and sometimes with Bam or go get a PG talent to be your starter in 2-3 seasons. Miami currently has Jovic at PF; you can pick up some type of vet stretch 4 behind him or Bam slides over for some minutes at the 4.

Vet stretch 4’s are a rarity and also hard for us to afford considering our cap space. A cheap Center is much more realistic. The market for stretch 4’s is highly competetive.

Are they? We're talking a BACKUP stretch 4 with Jovic probably eating up around 30 minutes there leaving 18 minutes of a backup which Love can handle here and there in certain matchups and you can also probably keep Highsmith pretty cheap or someone I'm comfortable as a backup stretch 4 would be someone very cheap like Jamal Cain. We're talking backup and every once in a while, being a spot starter.

Of course, if you think there's a special talent available, go for the best player available. You don't want to waste a 1st on a backup with a possible high-level player available (Precious/Maxey). Always take your shot for special talent in the draft but if not, go for need now or in the near future.

Who knows, if there's a move this summer maybe a PF is coming back.

Just looking at Miami's future 2-4 years down the road
PG Rozier to ?
SG Robinson to Herro(if he's here) to ?
SF Butler to Jaquez Jr.
PF Jovic
C Bam.

I just don't see the need to find your next backup when you possibly have 1-2 starting spots needing a new play so why not start developing that/those guy(s) now?
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Post#776 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon May 13, 2024 7:50 pm

lastb1ckman wrote:
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AirP. wrote:Get either a center with size to play behind and sometimes with Bam or go get a PG talent to be your starter in 2-3 seasons. Miami currently has Jovic at PF; you can pick up some type of vet stretch 4 behind him or Bam slides over for some minutes at the 4.

Vet stretch 4’s are a rarity and also hard for us to afford considering our cap space. A cheap Center is much more realistic. The market for stretch 4’s is highly competetive.


We literally have Jovic though, and he looks good! Why draft an older player who plays the same position? Unless you want him to play the 3, but we already have Jaime. And Da Silva is pretty much the same age.

We have no pgs in the development pipeline, and the non Bam minutes some of the most detrimental minutes for the Heat every game. The cheap centers haven't been working.

Because quality depth is extremely important. What happens is Jovic's back starts acting up again? We can get a guard in the second round. No stretch 4's or bigs in the 2nd. We have Rozier locked up for two more years who will get the majority of the minutes and possibly Delon Wright coming back on the cheap.
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Post#777 » by lastb1ckman » Mon May 13, 2024 7:56 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Vet stretch 4’s are a rarity and also hard for us to afford considering our cap space. A cheap Center is much more realistic. The market for stretch 4’s is highly competetive.


We literally have Jovic though, and he looks good! Why draft an older player who plays the same position? Unless you want him to play the 3, but we already have Jaime. And Da Silva is pretty much the same age.

We have no pgs in the development pipeline, and the non Bam minutes some of the most detrimental minutes for the Heat every game. The cheap centers haven't been working.

Because quality depth is extremely important. What happens is Jovic's back starts acting up again? We can get a guard in the second round. No stretch 4's or bigs in the 2nd


I feel like that's a waste. We have lots of options for the 4. We have much shakier options for the 1 or 5. Everyone there is 30+, a journeyman, or a g leaguer.
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Post#778 » by greg4012 » Mon May 13, 2024 8:01 pm

TBH I'm not too fixated on position taken. Priority is to end up with as close to a top 5 player from the draft as possible when looking back 5 years from now.

Easier said than done, but the track record has been strong in that regard lately.
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Post#779 » by greg4012 » Mon May 13, 2024 8:06 pm

Biggest part of the value proposition for Da Silva is that he can be a consolidation of a lot of role player functions. You need a top level shooter/spacer in the lineup to complement more on-ball paint guys--Da Silva can do that. You need a screener with some functional size and mobility on the floor--Da Silva can do that. You need a big wing defender for the playoffs so it's not just Bam, Jimmy, and a bunch of liabilities out there--Da Silva can (hopefully) do that.

He's consolidating a few role playing archetypes that Spo values into one player. I dig it.

He's one of a list of guys I'd be happy to see Miami leave the first round with. He may be the only pure PF that I have on this theoretical list, tho.
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