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[DayofMourning]

Milwaukee aint playing around....shoot.

[Daffy]

To be honest I'm not even sure if we drafted Maxey if we see this version of him offensively under Spo.

It's also crazy seeing a lot of you guys praise Maxey now while you didn't want Harden. Go look up who Maxey said he credits a lot of his development and learning from.

[Daffy]

We’ve had guys outside of Jimmy take over playoffs games and carry us to wins.

Lucky for Maxey he was able to redeem himself because multiple turnovers don’t the stretch and 3 huge missed free throws almost had a different convo around him tonight. Hell the Riley truthers would be saying precious was the right pick

The precious pick never made any sense at the time and it still doesn't now. He couldn't play next to Bam and we had holes so why draft a back up with so many holes.

[DayofMourning]

To be honest I'm not even sure if we drafted Maxey if we see this version of him offensively under Spo.

It's also crazy seeing a lot of you guys praise Maxey now while you didn't want Harden. Go look up who Maxey said he credits a lot of his development and learning from.

Harden can go eat a turd. Hes the one who started all this foul baiting bull. The stuff that made me enjoy the game less....he literally created an era of BS, foul baiting basketball.

[marson]

To be honest I'm not even sure if we drafted Maxey if we see this version of him offensively under Spo.

It's also crazy seeing a lot of you guys praise Maxey now while you didn't want Harden. Go look up who Maxey said he credits a lot of his development and learning from.

Of course, he won't trash his former teammate. Maxey is not a flopping prima donna player, that's the difference.

[DayofMourning]

We’ve had guys outside of Jimmy take over playoffs games and carry us to wins.

Lucky for Maxey he was able to redeem himself because multiple turnovers don’t the stretch and 3 huge missed free throws almost had a different convo around him tonight. Hell the Riley truthers would be saying precious was the right pick

The precious pick never made any sense at the time and it still doesn't now. He couldn't play next to Bam and we had holes so why draft a back up with so many holes.

Precious became the epitome of the destruction small ball can wreak on an organization. One of the single worst choices weve ever made. Its right there with my boy Beasley......

[Daffy]

To be honest I'm not even sure if we drafted Maxey if we see this version of him offensively under Spo.

It's also crazy seeing a lot of you guys praise Maxey now while you didn't want Harden. Go look up who Maxey said he credits a lot of his development and learning from.

Of course, he won't trash his former teammate. Maxey is not a flopping prima donna player, that's the difference.

He won't trash him but he also didn't have to answer that question to that level of detail if he wasn't honest about it either. Could have easily said "I enjoyed playing with Harden. He was a great teammate."

[Daffy]

We’ve had guys outside of Jimmy take over playoffs games and carry us to wins.

Lucky for Maxey he was able to redeem himself because multiple turnovers don’t the stretch and 3 huge missed free throws almost had a different convo around him tonight. Hell the Riley truthers would be saying precious was the right pick

The precious pick never made any sense at the time and it still doesn't now. He couldn't play next to Bam and we had holes so why draft a back up with so many holes.

Precious became the epitome of the destruction small ball can wreak on an organization. One of the single worst choices weve ever made. Its right there with my boy Beasley......

Lol at least with Beasley you could've seen the potential that would trick you into thinking you could mold him into something special.

[DayofMourning]

Lol at least with Beasley you could've seen the potential that would trick you into thinking you could mold him into something special.

Dude, I was such a fan of B-Easy. Sooo skilled. Was a pleasure to watch on offense. I watched all them K State games. He was a freaking boss.

It was the easiest choice for the Heat to make that draft. Unfortunately, the mental makeup was just a horrible fit.

As a result, we missed out on a few real game changers that wouldve really helped us.

MAJOR freaking L on that one.

[Vertical Limit]

Lol there were many people on this board that said they would not trade Herro for Maxey and that Maxey is not on Herros level..

[DayofMourning]

Portis looking good man.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

We’ve had guys outside of Jimmy take over playoffs games and carry us to wins.

Lucky for Maxey he was able to redeem himself because multiple turnovers don’t the stretch and 3 huge missed free throws almost had a different convo around him tonight. Hell the Riley truthers would be saying precious was the right pick

Guys like who?

Bam multiple times, Herro once. Hell Caleb, I’m sure Dragic

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Lol there were many people on this board that said they would not trade Herro for Maxey and that Maxey is not on Herros level..

Herro is about to show him up tomorrow!!!

[Tony15]

Lol there were many people on this board that said they would not trade Herro for Maxey and that Maxey is not on Herros level..

Don't recall that, but I DO recall listening to LeBatard before the year started and someone said that it's hairsplitting between Maxey/Herro......so much for that.

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[IceColdCubano]

Lol there were many people on this board that said they would not trade Herro for Maxey and that Maxey is not on Herros level..

Don't recall that, but I DO recall listening to LeBatard before the year started and someone said that it's hairsplitting between Maxey/Herro......so much for that.

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That was a bad take from Dan le batard But he was carrying heavy water jugs for the Heat during this time through the Damien Lillard saga. He did everything he could to oversell Herro being better than he is and that Portland is stupid for not taking him, etc.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Honestly we didn’t trade for Mitchell because we thought Herro was going to be just as good, the reality is that we didn’t draft Maxey for the same reason. They thought we were set at guard and that Herro and Maxey would just overlap.

Drafting Herro has set the franchise back several years

[marson]

Honestly we didn’t trade for Mitchell because we thought Herro was going to be just as good, the reality is that we didn’t draft Maxey for the same reason. They thought we were set at guard and that Herro and Maxey would just overlap.

Drafting Herro has set the franchise back several years

Pat the rat just love his Kentucky Alumni. Nepotism exist in this org

[RexBoyWonder]

Herro is a pretty good player and was a good pick for where we got him.

Problem was we really overpaid him for some reason, despite knowing his limitations by then.

Second problem was we overvalued him, we needed to trade him early for players more fitting to the Heat winning style.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Honestly we didn’t trade for Mitchell because we thought Herro was going to be just as good, the reality is that we didn’t draft Maxey for the same reason. They thought we were set at guard and that Herro and Maxey would just overlap.

Drafting Herro has set the franchise back several years

Pat the rat just love his Kentucky Alumni. Nepotism exist in this org

Which makes it even worse that he didn’t take Maxey considering he’s a KY guy!!

[IceColdCubano]

Honestly we didn’t trade for Mitchell because we thought Herro was going to be just as good, the reality is that we didn’t draft Maxey for the same reason. They thought we were set at guard and that Herro and Maxey would just overlap.

Drafting Herro has set the franchise back several years

Pat the rat just love his Kentucky Alumni. Nepotism exist in this org

which is why you take best available player, then sell the lesser one for assets later.

I don't know I think there's a lot of things here, one there was Klutch issue from the agency side that you know we have a disgust for. which I believe is one of the main reasons he passed on Maxey. Second it didn't make much sense in Achuiwa, we already had at the time a similar player in Bam whom they were projecting Achuiwa to be close to in terms of archetype. So theres no reason there to think of redundancy in regards to picking the same player which is why I hang on to the Klutch thing being the main culprit for skipping on Maxey.

In regards to Herro they absolutely overvalued him to the point that they felt they were overpaying for Mitchell, that he wasn't Herro plus multiple picks worth. Looking back now I am sure Pat Riley would kick himself in private thinking about that ball he dropped. I do believe that this organization is at this very moment 100% in agreement at all levels of what Tyler is and what he will never be, which is a step in the right direction, now we can focus on moving him when the opportunity presents itself.