**NBA Draft Discussion 2024**

[MettaWorldPanda]

Another strict Bam backup who offers defensive versatility like Bona is Oso Ighodaro from Marquette. The second round is littered with these types of bigs. No need to force one at 15. Get the best playmaking scorer

[lastb1ckman]

To me Jovic is that 4 of the future. His 3 is money this season, he's got the length, he's got size, and his defense is getting better all the time. He's been starting for a reason.

I agree with this. I think Niko is just scratching the surface of who he can become.

I actually really like the Jaquez/Jovic/Adebayo frontcourt. It compliments each other well.

Niko and JJJ are the reason why we probably shy away from drafting another SF or PF at 15. The value at combo guard is going to be there at 15. McCain, Carter, or Collier. One of them will be there. A developmental 4 or 5 will be there in the 2nd. Adem Bona projects as an ideal backup to Bam and was JJJ’s former team mate at UCLA. Bona also makes for a great fit with Jovic in the front court.

Yeah with Jaquez and Jovic manning the 3 & 4, and backups there will be the vets on our roster already or whatever undrafted gem we dig up next. Bona to me is like rookie Bam without the shooting or ball handling potential. That's a decent back up C. Paring him with a guy like Devin Carter, who can probably play day one, would be a good draft.

[IceColdCubano]

I agree with this. I think Niko is just scratching the surface of who he can become.

I actually really like the Jaquez/Jovic/Adebayo frontcourt. It compliments each other well.

Niko and JJJ are the reason why we probably shy away from drafting another SF or PF at 15. The value at combo guard is going to be there at 15. McCain, Carter, or Collier. One of them will be there. A developmental 4 or 5 will be there in the 2nd. Adem Bona projects as an ideal backup to Bam and was JJJ’s former team mate at UCLA. Bona also makes for a great fit with Jovic in the front court.

Yeah with Jaquez and Jovic manning the 3 & 4, and backups there will be the vets on our roster already or whatever undrafted gem we dig up next. Bona to me is like rookie Bam without the shooting or ball handling potential. That's a decent back up C. Paring him with a guy like Devin Carter, who can probably play day one, would be a good draft.

Yeah I feel like Miami is going to be looking at either a guard firstly to develop and or center secondarily in the 2nd round. They have invested too much on wings/forwards at moment to keep picking there.

[Lennyzinho]

I agree with this. I think Niko is just scratching the surface of who he can become.

I actually really like the Jaquez/Jovic/Adebayo frontcourt. It compliments each other well.

Niko and JJJ are the reason why we probably shy away from drafting another SF or PF at 15. The value at combo guard is going to be there at 15. McCain, Carter, or Collier. One of them will be there. A developmental 4 or 5 will be there in the 2nd. Adem Bona projects as an ideal backup to Bam and was JJJ’s former team mate at UCLA. Bona also makes for a great fit with Jovic in the front court.

Yeah with Jaquez and Jovic manning the 3 & 4, and backups there will be the vets on our roster already or whatever undrafted gem we dig up next. Bona to me is like rookie Bam without the shooting or ball handling potential. That's a decent back up C. Paring him with a guy like Devin Carter, who can probably play day one, would be a good draft.

From what I've seen, I really like Devin Carter. As others have mentioned, seems to definitely be a Heat type of player. I've seen him go in the 14 - 24 range so I'd say he's likely to be available for us at 15.

The Ringer's profile on him:

Devin Carter
Providence, Junior
HEIGHT 6'3"
WEIGHT 195
AGE 22.2
WINGSPAN 6'7"
Positive contributor in every single facet of the game, and he thrills viewers while doing it.

SHADES OF
Bruce Brown

Hustle
Got That Dog in Him
Crafty Finisher
Positional Versatility

PLUSES
Lockdown point-of-attack defender who stays seated in his stance and harasses opponents. With his strength, length, and mindset, he’s capable of switching to defend larger players, too.

He’s a super active rebounder, showing toughness when boxing out and awareness of how misses will bounce off the rim.

He does all the little things on offense, looking for chances to cut and run out in transition. He’ll be a valuable screener if drafted into an offense that uses inverted actions.

Excellent at-rim finisher who can hit difficult layups against length and contact using either hand. He uses his strength to carve out space and hit below-the-rim layups from any angle.

More of a slasher or a connector than a lead playmaker because he lacks an elite handle, but his selfless passing vision gives him great value. He can run some pick-and-roll, attack closeouts, or take the fast break. And he has an excellent feel for decisions, making slick interior passes to cutters or kickouts to shooters.

He’s making 40 percent of his 3s this season after hitting below 30 percent his first two seasons. He has ugly form, but it’s effective.

Son of former NBA player Anthony Carter.

MINUSES
He doesn’t handle pressure or double-teams well, especially when trapped in the pick-and-roll or turning his back from the post. One of the reasons why he dribbles into post-ups is that he doesn’t really have a dynamic handle or a second gear to turn the corner on defenders.

How good is he really as a shooter? He has a low and slow release and is extremely limited shooting off the dribble. Off the catch, he’s become a knockdown shooter, but he made only 33 percent of his catch-and-shoot 3s in his first two seasons, per Synergy. It’s pivotal for him to become a reliable spot-up shooter to be effective at the next level.

[lastb1ckman]

I like both Filipowski and Ware. I am just so skeptic on how much Spo really gonna utilize a center, that it will actually be worth it. Next season you have to expect Jovic minutes to double, so you need another defensive big next to him when Bam goes to the bench. So as currently constructed I would rather have Ware.

I havent recognize a player with elite scoring talent yet in this draft except for Collier. I havent looked at everyone yet but so far all iv seen is complimentary role players in this draft.

Im interested in your take on Colliers elite scoring talent. He had a rough year compared to expectations.

His speed, controlled speed unlike Maxey, and his stregth is elite level. He can see and read the court very well and draw fouls. He has to talent to beat one-on-ones and draw fouls which is a must need if you want to be a star. Its the same thing I seen in Anthony Edwards, and he wasnt and still isnt a shooter. I havent watched him defensively and that is my one area of uknown for me about Collier.

He has all the physical tools to be a good defender, but he might not have the mentality for it. He often is unengaged, dies on screens (which he really shouldn't with his size and strength) and doesn't rebound nearly as hard as he should. Stands around a lot when he's not on ball. That mentality would have to be stamped out if he hoped for minutes under Spo.

[twix2500]

To me Jovic is that 4 of the future. His 3 is money this season, he's got the length, he's got size, and his defense is getting better all the time. He's been starting for a reason.

I agree with this. I think Niko is just scratching the surface of who he can become.

I actually really like the Jaquez/Jovic/Adebayo frontcourt. It compliments each other well.

Niko and JJJ are the reason why we probably shy away from drafting another SF or PF at 15. The value at combo guard is going to be there at 15. McCain, Carter, or Collier. One of them will be there. A developmental 4 or 5 will be there in the 2nd. Adem Bona projects as an ideal backup to Bam and was JJJ’s former team mate at UCLA. Bona also makes for a great fit with Jovic in the front court.

Well as of right now this summer the roster looks like this

PG: Rozier - Richardson
SG: Butler - Herro
SF: D. Robinson - Jaquez Jr.
PF: Jovic -
Ce: Adebayo - Love (Unless he retires) - Thomas - O. Robinson

There is definitely a spot behind Jovic and Adebayo and their is definitely a spot behind Rozier if that no trade happens. However there is likely no big mins available for a rookie regardless. You have to expect that Jaqueez and Jovic mins will increase next season. There is talks that they are planning on Wright returning if he wants.

[MettaWorldPanda]

I agree with this. I think Niko is just scratching the surface of who he can become.

I actually really like the Jaquez/Jovic/Adebayo frontcourt. It compliments each other well.

Niko and JJJ are the reason why we probably shy away from drafting another SF or PF at 15. The value at combo guard is going to be there at 15. McCain, Carter, or Collier. One of them will be there. A developmental 4 or 5 will be there in the 2nd. Adem Bona projects as an ideal backup to Bam and was JJJ’s former team mate at UCLA. Bona also makes for a great fit with Jovic in the front court.

Well as of right now this summer the roster looks like this

PG: Rozier - Richardson
SG: Butler - Herro
SF: D. Robinson - Jaquez Jr.
PF: Jovic -
Ce: Adebayo - Love (Unless he retires) - Thomas - O. Robinson

There is definitely a spot behind Jovic and Adebayo and their is definitely a spot behind Rozier if that no trade happens. However there is likely no big mins available for a rookie regardless. You have to expect that Jaqueez and Jovic mins will increase next season. There is talks that they are planning on Wright returning if he wants.

Would love to have Wright back but he can probably get more than the minimum in the open market. Especially if he closes out these playoffs strong. I assume J Rich opts in coming back from the injury. Kevin Love is not passing on his 4 million opt in next year but will probably be more in a mentorship role. Even if Wright does sign for a cheap minimum we still need a PG of the future type to watch and learn. We need to get a vet PF either through trade or free agency. We don’t have much to work with money wise with the cap. Maybe a vet minimum guy pops up. Hoping Thomas Bryant opts out for a better role some place else.

[lastb1ckman]

I agree with this. I think Niko is just scratching the surface of who he can become.

I actually really like the Jaquez/Jovic/Adebayo frontcourt. It compliments each other well.

Niko and JJJ are the reason why we probably shy away from drafting another SF or PF at 15. The value at combo guard is going to be there at 15. McCain, Carter, or Collier. One of them will be there. A developmental 4 or 5 will be there in the 2nd. Adem Bona projects as an ideal backup to Bam and was JJJ’s former team mate at UCLA. Bona also makes for a great fit with Jovic in the front court.

Well as of right now this summer the roster looks like this

PG: Rozier - Richardson
SG: Butler - Herro
SF: D. Robinson - Jaquez Jr.
PF: Jovic -
Ce: Adebayo - Love (Unless he retires) - Thomas - O. Robinson

There is definitely a spot behind Jovic and Adebayo and their is definitely a spot behind Rozier if that no trade happens. However there is likely no big mins available for a rookie regardless. You have to expect that Jaqueez and Jovic mins will increase next season. There is talks that they are planning on Wright returning if he wants.

Could probably count on Highsmith and Cain to be back next season manning the back up 4 spot.
Man seeing that roster really makes me want to see Alondes Williams make it as a back up G next season, and for us to draft a decent back up center. I'm getting tired of it either being a washed vet or a 25 year old g leaguer who's still trying to learn how to defend the paint.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Niko and JJJ are the reason why we probably shy away from drafting another SF or PF at 15. The value at combo guard is going to be there at 15. McCain, Carter, or Collier. One of them will be there. A developmental 4 or 5 will be there in the 2nd. Adem Bona projects as an ideal backup to Bam and was JJJ’s former team mate at UCLA. Bona also makes for a great fit with Jovic in the front court.

Well as of right now this summer the roster looks like this

PG: Rozier - Richardson
SG: Butler - Herro
SF: D. Robinson - Jaquez Jr.
PF: Jovic -
Ce: Adebayo - Love (Unless he retires) - Thomas - O. Robinson

There is definitely a spot behind Jovic and Adebayo and their is definitely a spot behind Rozier if that no trade happens. However there is likely no big mins available for a rookie regardless. You have to expect that Jaqueez and Jovic mins will increase next season. There is talks that they are planning on Wright returning if he wants.

Could probably count on Highsmith and Cain to be back next season manning the back up 4 spot.
Man seeing that roster really makes me want to see Alondes Williams make it as a back up G next season, and for us to draft a decent back up center. I'm getting tired of it either being a washed vet or a 25 year old g leaguer who's still trying to learn how to defend the paint.

Highsmith and Cain are nothing but Skyforce jags. I'm not putting any stock in them. There's guys in the second round of this draft that have way more talent then those two. If Highsmith wants to come back and be a third stringer on the minimum and we just use him as a defensive specialist I'm fine with that. Cain is just two way fodder.

[MettaWorldPanda]

The only way I see us drafting a Center at 15 is if all the high upside guards are gone before we pick. Then that would mean someone like Filipowski and Ware would be there. We can't just draft any type of Center high. That center has to have a chance to be able to get minutes with Bam as stretch 5 to have any sort of real long term value and also be able to protect the paint defensively with Jovic at the 4. If that's not the case then we are going to end up drafting the next Achuiwa who Spo did not dare play with Bam or have any interest in it.

[greg4012]

Im interested in your take on Colliers elite scoring talent. He had a rough year compared to expectations.

His speed, controlled speed unlike Maxey, and his stregth is elite level. He can see and read the court very well and draw fouls. He has to talent to beat one-on-ones and draw fouls which is a must need if you want to be a star. Its the same thing I seen in Anthony Edwards, and he wasnt and still isnt a shooter. I havent watched him defensively and that is my one area of uknown for me about Collier.

He has all the physical tools to be a good defender, but he might not have the mentality for it. He often is unengaged, dies on screens (which he really shouldn't with his size and strength) and doesn't rebound nearly as hard as he should. Stands around a lot when he's not on ball. That mentality would have to be stamped out if he hoped for minutes under Spo.

looking into Collier, he def piques my interest bc I think his game will open up more at the NBA level with NBA spacing.

The defense is a question mark, the shooting (and off-ball play overall) is a legit concern, and the fact that he seems to be a below the rim player concerns me. It harkens to why I had reservations about Scoot Henderson as a prospect. Gotta have the finishing package and explosiveness to convert when you get into the paint. If not, what good is it (unless his playmaking levels up)?

Interesting upside prospect that wouldn’t even be in the convo for the Heat’s pick if these questions/concerns didn’t exist.

[MettaWorldPanda]

His speed, controlled speed unlike Maxey, and his stregth is elite level. He can see and read the court very well and draw fouls. He has to talent to beat one-on-ones and draw fouls which is a must need if you want to be a star. Its the same thing I seen in Anthony Edwards, and he wasnt and still isnt a shooter. I havent watched him defensively and that is my one area of uknown for me about Collier.

He has all the physical tools to be a good defender, but he might not have the mentality for it. He often is unengaged, dies on screens (which he really shouldn't with his size and strength) and doesn't rebound nearly as hard as he should. Stands around a lot when he's not on ball. That mentality would have to be stamped out if he hoped for minutes under Spo.

looking into Collier, he def piques my interest bc I think his game will open up more at the NBA level with NBA spacing.

The defense is a question mark, the shooting (and off-ball play overall) is a legit concern, and the fact that he seems to be a below the rim player concerns me. It harkens to why I had reservations about Scoot Henderson as a prospect. Gotta have the finishing package and explosiveness to convert when you get into the paint. If not, what good is it (unless his playmaking levels up)?

Interesting upside prospect that wouldn’t even be in the convo for the Heat’s pick if these questions/concerns didn’t exist.

My hope is Collier works out really well that one of the lottery teams takes a gamble on the upside and age allowing for an older prospect who we prefer like Carter to be there at 15. I think McCain and Collier both have a chance to get taken in the lottery over Carter who's an older prospect at 22. Collier and McCain are age 19-20 and teams who are picking in the lottery usually side with the younger prospects.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Just looking at the top 14 depth charts and team needs I could see Carter falling to us at 15 with ease.

PG Nikola Topic
PG/SG Reed Sheppard
PG Rob Dillingham
PG/SG Stephon Castle

top 10 projected

PG Jared McCain
PG Devin Carter
PG Isiah Collier

Projected 10-20

[MettaWorldPanda]

This is a big draft for us. We can’t afford to pick next year. Need to pay out OKC’s top 15 protected pick next year at all cost. The ramifications are giving the Hornets a free and clear pick in 2028 if we don’t. Need to hit on this player we pick. A day one older prospect contributor like JJJ.

[RexBoyWonder]

Edey is such a strange unusual player that probably has the biggest boom/bust at our range.

He could be an allstar or out of the league in 5 years, non of the outcomes will surprise me too much.


Just feels kinda desperate - in the sense that just getting another rotation player isn't good enough for this weak roster. We desperately need high end talent - and it's probably not available at %15 unless we pick some high bust/high upside risky type of prospect.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Edey is such a strange unusual player that probably has the biggest boom/bust at our range.

He could be an allstar or out of the league in 5 years, non of the outcomes will surprise me too much.


Just feels kinda desperate - in the sense that just getting another rotation player isn't good enough for this weak roster. We desperately need high end talent - and it's probably not available at %15 unless we pick some high bust/high upside risky type of prospect.

We can’t afford a risky prospect. The roster and cap says we need a day one contributor like JJJ.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Filipowski
Carter
DaSilva

Top 3 that make the most sense here.

[MettaWorldPanda]

6’9 stretch PF’s like Tristan da Silva are so hard to come by in this league that maybe we should draft him even though we have Jovic. Just having someone to put in like da Silva at the 4 instead of Highsmith would drastically strengthen our rotation.

[MettaWorldPanda]

If we don’t end up drafting a PG then keeping Delon Wright becomes a major priority. For a win now team i can understand them passing on a young PG since the transition is not very easy. Filipowski and DaSilva would be solid picks. Both playable with Bam.

[greg4012]

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