VaDe255 wrote:IceColdCubano wrote:Tyler Herro's value plummeting this series is absolutely the worse thing for this team moving forward. Trying to use him in any upcoming trades, it will ultimately cost them additional assets they wouldn't have to send out previously if he would just play up to his value.
There is a lot of data on Herro on what he is right now, which is what is going to matter when teams assess his value.
He isn't going to be judged on a few games, where he is playing a role he is not even supposed to play vs one of the top defenses in the league.
That said he was awful in that first game.
I put some of it down to fatigue from playing highly competetive 2 games and an early 3rd game (even less rest) in 6 days, where they traveled every time.
They'll look better in the 2nd game, but adjust your expectations.
Herro is supposed to be the primary ball handler, play maker and scorer, while he is also moving a ton off the ball (did all of it vs the Bulls). Only very few players in this league can do this and look good. He's also still learning the coverages that comes with being in that role, as he was 2nd or 3rd fiddle most of his career
I wouldn't take much stock in the bulls game for data for success either, as all our guys did extremely well vs a team that is not very good. He literally got by everyone of those bulls defender and was met with zero secondary and big man defender in rotations.
The Philly game is another indicator of his inefficiencies, had a ton of quality looks and missed them all. Once Jimmy went down be became the guy, and even as philly was adjusting to focus on him by the end of the 3rd quarter he just didn't have the focus, and struggled from everywhere on the court.
Boston, I won't completely judge him on these merits against the best team in the league next to the Nuggets understanding he is the only guy right now were funneling all our scoring through, almost forced, because we don't have another ball handler on the floor capable of giving him relief. However, the true Herro kind of lies somewhere in the middle, he isn't as bad as he looked against top tier competition a 3rd scorer on a team that unfortunately right now is using him as a number 1. However he still ins't very good even as the #3 on a team in comparison to other #3's.
I don't believe I need to adjust my expectations, he is an inefficient subpar scorer that struggles against size and speed, his defense is also bad and gets hunted because of this. He is also a liability when bundled with other mediocre defenders, and unfortunately for us, our guards who are good defenders, Caleb/Wright are not great scorers so we struggle a bit here on structure. The guys who can take pressure off of him like Rozier is a bad fit beside him as having them both on the court makes our back like have to work that much harder.
I do think he is a microwave guy who can get hot in situations and usually in the season will have 3 bland games and 1 hot game, so I will give him the benefit of a doubt in at least 1 game this series where he will catch fire and hit a high clip at high volume, hopefully in the same game that others also play well we can count on at least a victory.
I wish him the best, but he is a bad complementary piece to this build. If he were to just strictly be an off ball shooter, in the way that Duncan is used we may get the most out of him and function best next to Jimmy/Bam but they are not paying him to be that, and they have not nurtured him to be that either from the FO. He's expectations and role on this team are higher than what he is capable of.
