PG Spurs - Win

[Ron Swanson]

Stop teasing us. We'd all kill for Skiles to coach this team at this point lol.

[yannisk]

I'm not a fire the coach guy

why not?

[German Athens]

Something that pisses me off almost as much as Griff’s coaching, is that every time I glance at the bucks subreddit, there’s some sarcastic post about how we suck now that smugly shows our record.

I know there are dudes fighting the good fight over there, too, but the head in the sand crap with no critical analysis seems to be the predominant sentiment over there.

It blows my **** mind.

[jimmybones]

If this doesn't sum up the Bucks under Griffin then nothing does.

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Pure comedy

Probably forgot....PROBABLY FORGOT

Our coach is like what Tim Robinson would write a coach to be in an I Think You Should Leave sketch

As funny as it is depressing

[MissKhriddleton]

Something that pisses me off almost as much as Griff’s coaching, is that every time I glance at the bucks subreddit, there’s some sarcastic post about how we suck now that smugly shows our record.

I know there are dudes fighting the good fight over there, too, but the head in the sand crap with no critical analysis seems to be the predominant sentiment over there.

It blows my **** mind.

They are the **** worst. I hate that place but can't stop going there. And you know if Griffin were to get fired they'd just start blindly stanning the new coach with zero admission about being completely wrong.

[jimmybones]

Does anyone here think the Bucks are playing coy and not showing everything they have until the playoffs? I've heard that notion mentioned on Bucks Twitter a few times tonight and I'm not buying that one bit.

I had a naive/optimistic hope of this early one but there's simply no way Griffin has the balls to do something like that in his first head coaching opportunity after interviewing 4,000 times. This would require a level of confidence and long game playing foresight that I don't see Griffin having.

[MissKhriddleton]

If this doesn't sum up the Bucks under Griffin then nothing does.

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Pure comedy

Probably forgot....PROBABLY FORGOT

Our coach is like what Tim Robinson would write a coach to be in an I Think You Should Leave sketch

As funny as it is depressing

[jimmybones]

The amusing thing about pressuring up high with bad defenders is that they tend to look even worse.

Rule of thumb: if you wanna minimize bad defenders, put them closer to your good defenders not farther away.

Something I've noticed that really stood out is how often a guard or wing has a complete free run at Brook and it's entirely too easy of a one on one attempt for NBA scorers. They get little runners or pull ups off and time them to easily get them over Brook and it makes it look like he's lost a step. But we're defending so far away that even good defenders will get beat vs NBA guards in those positions.

In Bud's scheme we didn't look to completely stop penetration, you don't have to. Brook defending the rim was easier when the perimeter defender was at least riding the hip of the driver and funneling them to Brook, as opposed to being 30 feet from the rim as the driver gets a free run at Brook.

I just can't comprehend this desire to play so far from the rim and leave the middle of the floor wide open, we're getting destroyed at the rim and on the boards and our bigs are the same group that led to elite results in these areas. We not only have poor guard and perimter personnel to run this, it's kinda absurd for any personnel group to run this.

[JayMKE]

Something that pisses me off almost as much as Griff’s coaching, is that every time I glance at the bucks subreddit, there’s some sarcastic post about how we suck now that smugly shows our record.

I know there are dudes fighting the good fight over there, too, but the head in the sand crap with no critical analysis seems to be the predominant sentiment over there.

It blows my **** mind.

Reddit is a total corruption of what old school forums like realgm use to be, no good discussions can happen on anything where the whole concept is to raise the most clickbaity promoted circlejerk posts while hiding/punishing any opinion that goes against the corpo-narrative of whatever chosen sub.

[Prez]

Something that pisses me off almost as much as Griff’s coaching, is that every time I glance at the bucks subreddit, there’s some sarcastic post about how we suck now that smugly shows our record.

I know there are dudes fighting the good fight over there, too, but the head in the sand crap with no critical analysis seems to be the predominant sentiment over there.

It blows my **** mind.

The Bucks subreddit is a complete **** dumpster fire if you want anything beyond the dumbest, blind homer Bucks talk lol. This board is by a mile the best spot for honest Bucks talk, along with the smart Bucks Twitter people.

[bango_the_buck]

Bud got fired mainly because of his lack of defensive adjustments and his unwillingness to change based on player input. He had a system he believed in, kept things simple, and thought it better to be good at one thing (i.e., the drop defense) rather than a master of none. Griff was hired to do the opposite, which is very difficult, particularly when the players are not necessarily used to or suited for many of the schemes. They are trying to do too much and there are too many cooks in the kitchen. As a result, the players look disorganized and out of sync. Everyone is to blame for this (players, coaches, GM, etc). It's good to continue using regular season games to practice different looks so you can implement them when needed, but at some point Griff needs to take the reigns and establish what the appropriate identity of the team is.

[fan230]

The amusing thing about pressuring up high with bad defenders is that they tend to look even worse.

Rule of thumb: if you wanna minimize bad defenders, put them closer to your good defenders not farther away.

Something I've noticed that really stood out is how often a guard or wing has a complete free run at Brook and it's entirely too easy of a one on one attempt for NBA scorers. They get little runners or pull ups off and time them to easily get them over Brook and it makes it look like he's lost a step. But we're defending so far away that even good defenders will get beat vs NBA guards in those positions.

In Bud's scheme we didn't look to completely stop penetration, you don't have to. Brook defending the rim was easier when the perimeter defender was at least riding the hip of the driver and funneling them to Brook, as opposed to being 30 feet from the rim as the driver gets a free run at Brook.

I just can't comprehend this desire to play so far from the rim and leave the middle of the floor wide open, we're getting destroyed at the rim and on the boards and our bigs are the same group that led to elite results in these areas. We not only have poor guard and perimter personnel to run this, it's kinda absurd for any personnel group to run this.

I fully agree. This has been one of the biggest reasons our defense is unable to stop any team recently: Knicks, Pacers every game, Spurs.

[DingleJerry]

Watch on YouTube

I haven't even watched this yet, but the still shot looks like a man who just evaded death.

Obviously I know it wasn't really the case. But I had a similar thought run through my head when they were getting smoked to start the 4th and he immediately put Giannis/Dame back in with like 9:40 left. Which is several minutes earlier than normal for Dame (I can't say for sure on Giannis). Obviously it was the right move to win this game but also its a regular season game on Jan 4, seemed like he desperately felt like they needed to win this one.

I was paying attention to it already after the discussion on here about the rotations, not having one of Dame/Giannis out there. Their planned strategy was to start a close 4th Q with a full bench unit and neither of their top 10 players on the floor. It is just dumb.

[Ron Swanson]

Bud got fired mainly because of his lack of defensive adjustments and his unwillingness to change based on player input. He had a system he believed in, kept things simple, and thought it better to be good at one thing (i.e., the drop defense) rather than a master of none. Griff was hired to do the opposite, which is very difficult, particularly when the players are not necessarily used to or suited for many of the schemes. They are trying to do too much and there are too many cooks in the kitchen. As a result, the players look disorganized and out of sync. Everyone is to blame for this (players, coaches, GM, etc). It's good to continue using regular season games to practice different looks so you can implement them when needed, but at some point Griff needs to take the reigns and establish what the appropriate identity of the team is.

No....he.....wasn't. Griffin was hired to be a fresh voice that the players would listen to while keeping what works with this roster (why on earth would we have kept Brook and Bobby if we felt a seismic defensive philosophy shift was necessary?). You guys are actually seeing what a real stubborn coach looks like now that this myth of Bud being inflexible has been thoroughly shattered into a million pieces. If being stubborn is, like "actively doing **** that works", then man, that Phil Jackson guy sure was a stubborn idiot trying to force his triangle offense on all these dudes for decades.

[pifhluk23]

Something that pisses me off almost as much as Griff’s coaching, is that every time I glance at the bucks subreddit, there’s some sarcastic post about how we suck now that smugly shows our record.

I know there are dudes fighting the good fight over there, too, but the head in the sand crap with no critical analysis seems to be the predominant sentiment over there.

It blows my **** mind.

That's all of reddit. It's gone completely "only positive vibes, ignore reality" in nearly every single subreddit. Unless it's talking about how the man is holding you down, then you are allowed to be negative. I really think that site is being heavily manipulated.

[JayMKE]

At least Bud had good reasons to be stubborn since his system worked most of the time, Griffin is trying the "fake it till you make it" approach to NBA and is basically how he got hired.

[JayMKE]

Something that pisses me off almost as much as Griff’s coaching, is that every time I glance at the bucks subreddit, there’s some sarcastic post about how we suck now that smugly shows our record.

I know there are dudes fighting the good fight over there, too, but the head in the sand crap with no critical analysis seems to be the predominant sentiment over there.

It blows my **** mind.

That's all of reddit. It's gone completely "only positive vibes, ignore reality" in nearly every single subreddit. Unless it's talking about how the man is holding you down, then you are allowed to be negative. I really think that site is being heavily manipulated.

also a disgusting amount of prostitution/porn, total cesspool

[CharityStripe34]

Me 99% of the time this season when the missus asks “how the bucks are doing”:

I nominate you for best RealGM gimmick, maintaining kayfabe

[old skool]

Something that pisses me off almost as much as Griff’s coaching, is that every time I glance at the bucks subreddit, there’s some sarcastic post about how we suck now that smugly shows our record.

I know there are dudes fighting the good fight over there, too, but the head in the sand crap with no critical analysis seems to be the predominant sentiment over there.

It blows my **** mind.

They are the **** worst. I hate that place but can't stop going there. And you know if Griffin were to get fired they'd just start blindly stanning the new coach with zero admission about being completely wrong.

Getting angry over opinions posted on the internet? Really?

I get that failing to convince others of an alternate perspective can be frustrating, but it doesn't have to lead to anger. Sports are not that important in the scheme of life.

[old skool]

I think most Bucks fans would have been thrilled, when the record was 2-2, to know that the team would go 23-8 over the next 31 games.

Lots of room for improvement. Lots of red flags. But ignoring the W-L record is just as short sighted as ignoring the other issues regularly beat to death on this forum.