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tydett wrote:Man, you guys are all focused on dumb **** like schemes, implementation of a culture, and organizational ability, but I dare you to find another head coach who can tell you what Brene Brown says about leadership for a basketball team.

Anyone who quotes Brene Brown is honestly top of the line in my book. This tells me he understand self-reflection, growth, and utilizes therapy.

That is impressive if he truly understands Brene Brown.

So KM sat... and suddenly Dame Time came back again like it was last time KM sat..... shocked?

Profound23 wrote:

tydett wrote:Man, you guys are all focused on dumb **** like schemes, implementation of a culture, and organizational ability, but I dare you to find another head coach who can tell you what Brene Brown says about leadership for a basketball team.

Anyone who quotes Brene Brown is honestly top of the line in my book. This tells me he understand self-reflection, growth, and utilizes therapy.

That is impressive if he truly understands Brene Brown.

I've had plenty of "leaders" who quote a line from Brene Brown who are miserable leaders. Being able to read one of her books or listen to a TEDtalk does not impress me.

tydett wrote:

Profound23 wrote:

tydett wrote:Man, you guys are all focused on dumb **** like schemes, implementation of a culture, and organizational ability, but I dare you to find another head coach who can tell you what Brene Brown says about leadership for a basketball team.

Anyone who quotes Brene Brown is honestly top of the line in my book. This tells me he understand self-reflection, growth, and utilizes therapy.

That is impressive if he truly understands Brene Brown.

I've had plenty of "leaders" who quote a line from Brene Brown who are miserable leaders. Being able to read one of her books or listen to a TEDtalk does not impress me.

I just googled a couple of Brene Brown quotes and now I’m a leader! Who knew??

-Jragon- wrote:So KM sat... and suddenly Dame Time came back again like it was last time KM sat..... shocked?

Your need to push this weird anti Khris agenda at seemingly any opportunity is so tired man. The last time Khris sat was against the 2-24 Pistons on a 22 game losing streak, like no **** Dame was able to pop off.

- Giannis/Dame lineups without Khris: -0.09 net rating in 489 minutes
- Giannis/Dame lineups with Khris: +14.82 net rating in 500 minutes

The best this team looks is when Khris is on the floor with them.

I let it out into the wild.

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TroyD92 wrote:Never seen anyone on this board defend someone like Sid does Griff.

You obviously missed the Epicurus/Stotts era.

And I'm really not that strong on Griffin. I do like him, I think he's won the locker room over, he seems engaged and knowledgeable, and most importantly he seems to be overseeing steady improvement.

What drives me to long irrelevant posts are what to me appear to be unfair criticisms based on long-held opinions spouted as though they were facts.

sidney lanier wrote:

TroyD92 wrote:Never seen anyone on this board defend someone like Sid does Griff.

You obviously missed the Epicurus/Stotts era.

And I'm really not that strong on Griffin. I do like him, I think he's won the locker room over, he seems engaged and knowledgeable, and most importantly he seems to be overseeing steady improvement.

What drives me to long irrelevant posts are what to me appear to be unfair criticisms based on long-held opinions spouted as though they were facts.

What makes you think he's won the locker room over? I would say with the info and leaks so far that the opposite were true. You have a coach straight up quitting, Bobbys thing in Vegas, then it being intentionally leaked after, Dame looking frustrated AF and then leaving the team for a bit, Giannis openly calling out the team/coaches publicly, Dame openly complaining about his role, etc.

Though, I do grant the response from last Monday-ish to now is a positive sign to the locker room not being completely lost and maybe that bad spell got them to come together a bit. I'd grant the response from then until now is a good sign on this topic. But prior to the Bos game I have no idea how anyone could think that, it seemed there was about to be the players pushing him out.

Why isn’t Giannis used as the inbounder in situations like those at the end of games?

Prez wrote:

-Jragon- wrote:So KM sat... and suddenly Dame Time came back again like it was last time KM sat..... shocked?

Your need to push this weird anti Khris agenda at seemingly any opportunity is so tired man. The last time Khris sat was against the 2-24 Pistons on a 22 game losing streak, like no **** Dame was able to pop off.

- Giannis/Dame lineups without Khris: -0.09 net rating in 489 minutes
- Giannis/Dame lineups with Khris: +14.82 net rating in 500 minutes

The best this team looks is when Khris is on the floor with them.

Some fancy +/- number easily skewed against garbage teams doesn't change what we've seen happen

paulpressey25 wrote:I let it out into the wild.

Read on Twitter

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Do we have a list of the clutch games? Thinking some of these, like the Spurs game, should be blowouts. Guessing the Celtics aren't on this list because they are blowing out teams.

DingleJerry wrote:

sidney lanier wrote:

TroyD92 wrote:Never seen anyone on this board defend someone like Sid does Griff.

You obviously missed the Epicurus/Stotts era.

And I'm really not that strong on Griffin. I do like him, I think he's won the locker room over, he seems engaged and knowledgeable, and most importantly he seems to be overseeing steady improvement.

What drives me to long irrelevant posts are what to me appear to be unfair criticisms based on long-held opinions spouted as though they were facts.

What makes you think he's won the locker room over? I would say with the info and leaks so far that the opposite were true. You have a coach straight up quitting, Bobbys thing in Vegas, then it being intentionally leaked after, Dame looking frustrated AF and then leaving the team for a bit, Giannis openly calling out the team/coaches publicly, Dame openly complaining about his role, etc.

Though, I do grant the response from last Monday-ish to now is a positive sign to the locker room not being completely lost and maybe that bad spell got them to come together a bit. I'd grant the response from then until now is a good sign on this topic. But prior to the Bos game I have no idea how anyone could think that, it seemed there was about to be the players pushing him out.

As Charlie Rich once sang, no one knows what goes on behind closed doors, so the best we can do is extrapolate from what we see. And what I see is a team playing hard for their coach. The Bobby thing is just Bobby and appears to have been resolved, and as for Dame's sour puss, we're learning that that's just him, even when he makes a 35-foot buzzer-beater.

I think Griffin does ladle it on a little thick in postgame pressers. Everybody was terrific and fantastic and special, and I'm sure the overpraised players roll their eyes a bit when they hear it. But I see no evidence of resentment or mutiny and everybody seems to be pulling together. That's the main thing.

sidney lanier wrote:

DingleJerry wrote:

sidney lanier wrote:
You obviously missed the Epicurus/Stotts era.

And I'm really not that strong on Griffin. I do like him, I think he's won the locker room over, he seems engaged and knowledgeable, and most importantly he seems to be overseeing steady improvement.

What drives me to long irrelevant posts are what to me appear to be unfair criticisms based on long-held opinions spouted as though they were facts.

What makes you think he's won the locker room over? I would say with the info and leaks so far that the opposite were true. You have a coach straight up quitting, Bobbys thing in Vegas, then it being intentionally leaked after, Dame looking frustrated AF and then leaving the team for a bit, Giannis openly calling out the team/coaches publicly, Dame openly complaining about his role, etc.

Though, I do grant the response from last Monday-ish to now is a positive sign to the locker room not being completely lost and maybe that bad spell got them to come together a bit. I'd grant the response from then until now is a good sign on this topic. But prior to the Bos game I have no idea how anyone could think that, it seemed there was about to be the players pushing him out.

As Charlie Rich once sang, no one knows what goes on behind closed doors, so the best we can do is extrapolate from what we see. And what I see is a team playing hard for their coach. The Bobby thing is just Bobby and appears to have been resolved, and as for Dame's sour puss, we're learning that that's just him, even when he makes a 35-foot buzzer-beater.

I think Griffin does ladle it on a little thick in postgame pressers. Everybody was terrific and fantastic and special, and I'm sure the overpraised players roll their eyes a bit when they hear it. But I see no evidence of resentment or mutiny and everybody seems to be pulling together. That's the main thing.

I mean, I just laid out a list of things that would qualify. These are things oft pointed to in sports as 'losing the locker room' type stuff. ETA: add to the list the players pushing to change back the drop, Brook being clearly the most frustrated he's been and constantly complaining on the court

A team playing hard is not at all what I would describe the first half of this season to be, really quite the opposite. It has been a team coasting and seemingly not caring all that much. Though again, I do grant these games bounceback and the care/effort in them does support what you're saying, prior to that though all the info/evidence idiots like us are privy to it is quite the opposite.

Krispy Kreme wrote:Why isn’t Giannis used as the inbounder in situations like those at the end of games?

If Grief wants/needs Giannis on the floor in situations like yesterday where the instant foul and FT's are definitely coming, then this should be the default. Make Giannis the inbounder. Train for it relentlessly. He can inbound and then become a threat off-ball around the rim.

mediocrityrules wrote:

Krispy Kreme wrote:Why isn’t Giannis used as the inbounder in situations like those at the end of games?

If Grief wants/needs Giannis on the floor in situations like yesterday where the instant foul and FT's are definitely coming, then this should be the default. Make Giannis the inbounder. Train for it relentlessly. He can inbound and then become a threat off-ball around the rim.

Having him trail yesterday helped free up Dame. Dame said himself it worked perfectly because two people followed Giannis and that created space for him. If Giannis is inbounding. two people stick with Dame, and the play doesn't work.

Profound23 wrote:

mediocrityrules wrote:

Krispy Kreme wrote:Why isn’t Giannis used as the inbounder in situations like those at the end of games?

If Grief wants/needs Giannis on the floor in situations like yesterday where the instant foul and FT's are definitely coming, then this should be the default. Make Giannis the inbounder. Train for it relentlessly. He can inbound and then become a threat off-ball around the rim.

Having him trail yesterday helped free up Dame. Dame said himself it worked perfectly because two people followed Giannis and that created space for him. If Giannis is inbounding. two people stick with Dame, and the play doesn't work.

Remember Midds is out there too. Two guys shooting 90% from the FT line. They would have to hedge their bets in that case. If Giannis is not inbounding they don't even send anyone to him (light pressure only). They still double Dame.

-Jragon- wrote:

Prez wrote:

-Jragon- wrote:So KM sat... and suddenly Dame Time came back again like it was last time KM sat..... shocked?

Your need to push this weird anti Khris agenda at seemingly any opportunity is so tired man. The last time Khris sat was against the 2-24 Pistons on a 22 game losing streak, like no **** Dame was able to pop off.

- Giannis/Dame lineups without Khris: -0.09 net rating in 489 minutes
- Giannis/Dame lineups with Khris: +14.82 net rating in 500 minutes

The best this team looks is when Khris is on the floor with them.

Some fancy +/- number easily skewed against garbage teams doesn't change what we've seen happen

Lineup net ratings in 500 minute samples are fancy now? Aight man lol.

Prez wrote:

-Jragon- wrote:

Prez wrote:Your need to push this weird anti Khris agenda at seemingly any opportunity is so tired man. The last time Khris sat was against the 2-24 Pistons on a 22 game losing streak, like no **** Dame was able to pop off.

- Giannis/Dame lineups without Khris: -0.09 net rating in 489 minutes
- Giannis/Dame lineups with Khris: +14.82 net rating in 500 minutes

The best this team looks is when Khris is on the floor with them.

Some fancy +/- number easily skewed against garbage teams doesn't change what we've seen happen

Lineup net ratings in 500 minute samples are fancy now? Aight man lol.

It's not that hard to think about. The midrange assassin playing with the guy who gets double teamed as soon as he crosses half court and the guy who brings the entire defense to the paint when he touches the FT line. Khris gets exactly what he wants with very little resistance.

what is a clutch game? I would guess a game where we have O-RTG: 120.9 and D-RTG: 99.5 would be over by mid third quarter

Very interesting that the Bucks can decide to play defense when they truly want, as demonstrated by the clutch stats. Makes you wonder if the defense will improve in the playoffs simply because they will try harder and concentrate