#36 - Andre Jackson Jr

theFireBlanket · Post #421 » by **theFireBlanket** » Tue Oct 3, 2023 4:00 pm

There's another pic from that training session. Giannis looking at AJJ like he's impressed.

MoreTrife · Post #422 » by **MoreTrife** » Tue Oct 3, 2023 4:03 pm

theFireBlanket wrote:

Read on Twitter

There's another pic from that training session. Giannis looking at AJJ like he's impressed.

Giannis's calves are just insane. Looks like mech suit legs for space soldiers.

craig · Post #423 » by **craig** » Tue Oct 3, 2023 5:45 pm

Will be interesting to see how good he actually is defensively. Getting a reputation as a good defender in college is one thing, and probably comes with good reason; but the NBA can be different. Time will tell.

In his first Summer league game, he had a great block from behind on a guy.... but only because he'd gotten so badly roasted in the first place. I'm a little hesitant to trust that he's going to be a shut-down defender until he plays a little and confirms it.

Sure hope so, though.

Upperclass · Post #424 » by **Upperclass** » Fri Oct 6, 2023 5:08 pm

Jackson will be the 5th starter in time. He has PJ Tucker, Draymond type of glue guy intangibles. Marjon will get his opportunity as well but hes better as an off-the-bench 3&D 8th man

nagawicka · Post #425 » by **nagawicka** » Fri Oct 6, 2023 5:37 pm

KidA24 wrote:It's amazing how the people who are worried about him not being successful never add the additional two words, he can't be a successful lead ball handler without a shot.... "With Giannis"

Can you imagine Giannis setting a screen for him?

What we can't imagine is Giannis passing the ball to him or for that matter, allowing him or anyone to play point. Why put five on the floor

soxperry · Post #426 » by **soxperry** » Fri Oct 6, 2023 5:51 pm

Upperclass wrote:Jackson will be the 5th starter in time. He has PJ Tucker, Draymond type of glue guy intangibles. Marjon will get his opportunity as well but hes better as an off-the-bench 3&D 8th man

Its not impossible. One thing i forget is that AJJ didnt just slide to our pick because of his shot but because of his medicals. If not for that, he doesn't fall to us.

engelmartin · Post #427 » by **engelmartin** » Fri Oct 6, 2023 5:52 pm

Upperclass wrote:Jackson will be the 5th starter in time. He has PJ Tucker, Draymond type of glue guy intangibles. Marjon will get his opportunity as well but hes better as an off-the-bench 3&D 8th man

Tend to agree with this but someone should make a poll!

Ron Swanson · Post #428 » by **Ron Swanson** » Fri Oct 6, 2023 6:01 pm

I'm optimistic, but I'm also not gonna say that it'd be a "non-issue" to have such a spacing/scoring liability in the starting lineup. Again, I'd just tell him to watch Bruce Brown tape non-stop. At the very least he needs to develop a corner-3 and some sort of floater game.

Post #429 » by **Prez** » Fri Oct 6, 2023 6:36 pm

I have successfully deluded myself into believing Dame/MarJon/Dre/Khris/Giannis will be our best/closing 5 by playoff time. This post may be heavily edited if both young guys blow in preseason lol.

jimmybones · Post #430 » by **jimmybones** » Fri Oct 6, 2023 7:00 pm

Can I claim the number two spot on the AJJ train after emunney?

emunney · Post #431 » by **emunney** » Fri Oct 6, 2023 7:17 pm

stillgotgame wrote:Plays tough D, passes the ball, team guy, but can't shoot. Matches perfectly with Dame. I think this is a sign.

Read on Twitter

Look at this guy.

emunney · Post #432 » by **emunney** » Fri Oct 6, 2023 7:24 pm

Big question is what happens when the guy who every analyst agrees 'makes his teammates better' has Giannis and Dame as teammates? Not sure but it's got a nice ring to it.

nagawicka · Post #433 » by **nagawicka** » Fri Oct 6, 2023 9:40 pm

soxperry wrote:
KendallMarshall wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:
Really? He better learn pretty quickly then, because I'm not seeing any sort of realistic path to being an additive offensive player by just running dribble hand-offs and baseline cuts to the basket. You just can't have a dude out there who's that much of a zero offensively in today's league and expect to not be playing 4-on-5.

I mean we did win a championship playing 4 on 5 offensively with pj tucker.

yes, but PJ can reliably hit a corner 3. he's known for it, and that helps with the spacing. if Jackson can't do at least that, it's a big problem.

Yeah, but he didn't, not really. It was an empty threat. PJ's difference-making was the relentless dawg defense and hustle, which freed Jrue up to be the difference-maker, scoring as needed and stealing the ball whenever he wanted. Now tell Jrue to be the PJ shutdown guy AND rack up substantial buckets, all w/o a functional point guard. Like that's ever gonna work. The lip service about 'commitment' wasn't an astute move, not when G's commitment to the Olympics trumped a second championship run, not when the commitment to playing one position well comes after the asinine notion that playing two positions could ever benefit his game or the team. Not when NO ONE thought: Sure, he hurt his right hand, but he can always pass with his left hand, right? He can always pass with his left hand. Bucks won't be fun to watch if they refuse to include the young guns in 5-man play

Ron Swanson · Post #434 » by **Ron Swanson** » Fri Oct 6, 2023 9:50 pm

nagawicka wrote:
soxperry wrote:
KendallMarshall wrote:I mean we did win a championship playing 4 on 5 offensively with pj tucker.

yes, but PJ can reliably hit a corner 3. he's known for it, and that helps with the spacing. if Jackson can't do at least that, it's a big problem.

Yeah, but he didn't, not really. It was an empty threat.

My guy, PJ literally made more corner-3's than any other player in the league from 2017-2021.

RiotPunch · Post #435 » by **RiotPunch** » Fri Oct 6, 2023 9:55 pm

He did shoot the worst of his playoff career from the corner for us in the 2021, though. Pretty sure that is what Kendall and Naga were referring to. PJ was a threat based on his reputation during that run.

ShootingtheJ · Post #436 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Fri Oct 6, 2023 10:32 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:
nagawicka wrote:
soxperry wrote:
yes, but PJ can reliably hit a corner 3. he's known for it, and that helps with the spacing. if Jackson can't do at least that, it's a big problem.

Yeah, but he didn't, not really. It was an empty threat.

My guy, PJ literally made more corner-3's than any other player in the league from 2017-2021.

While being unguarded. He had no gravity.

Ron Swanson · Post #437 » by **Ron Swanson** » Fri Oct 6, 2023 10:42 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:
nagawicka wrote:Yeah, but he didn't, not really. It was an empty threat.

My guy, PJ literally made more corner-3's than any other player in the league from 2017-2021.

While being unguarded. He had no gravity.

You guys do understand the value in a guy "making shots" as opposed to just "having gravity", right?

ShootingtheJ · Post #438 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Fri Oct 6, 2023 10:46 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:
My guy, PJ literally made more corner-3's than any other player in the league from 2017-2021.

While being unguarded. He had no gravity.

You guys do understand the value in a guy "making shots" as opposed to just "having gravity", right?

You think the opponent couldn't do math? His percentages were mediocre.

Ron Swanson · Post #439 » by **Ron Swanson** » Fri Oct 6, 2023 11:11 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
While being unguarded. He had no gravity.

You guys do understand the value in a guy "making shots" as opposed to just "having gravity", right?

You think the opponent couldn't do math? His percentages were mediocre.

What are we doing here? PJ has been a 40% 3PT shooter the last couple years primarily off of corner-3's. He's been one of the most premier corner-3 guys for nearly a decade now. They're almost entirely unguarded because those defenses would still have rather gambled on taking away a Giannis dunk or a Harden layup as opposed to a 38-40% corner-3 guy.

Andre as of now can't shoot 3's like, at all, until he proves otherwise. Combine that with his complete inability to put the ball through the basket outside of putbacks, lobs, and hustle plays, he'll need to develop some additional offensive skill to be effective outside of being the middle-man that passes to the cutter on an inverted pick & roll before I start to entertain the idea that he can seamlessly fit into the role that one of the best glue-guys of 21st century basketball filled. That's precisely why I wanted to see him play more on-ball in Summer League.

ShootingtheJ · Post #440 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Fri Oct 6, 2023 11:26 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:
You guys do understand the value in a guy "making shots" as opposed to just "having gravity", right?

You think the opponent couldn't do math? His percentages were mediocre.

What are we doing here? PJ has been a 40% 3PT shooter the last couple years primarily off of corner-3's.

In 2 of the seasons included in the span you originally described, PJ shot 35%