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Re: #36 - Andre Jackson Jr

Posted: Sat Oct 7, 2023 12:07 am
by Ron Swanson
ShootingtheJ wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
You think the opponent couldn't do math? His percentages were mediocre.


What are we doing here? PJ has been a 40% 3PT shooter the last couple years primarily off of corner-3's.


In 2 of the seasons included in the span you originally described, PJ shot 35%


If you're gonna throw out the math argument, then I'm not understanding what you're not understanding about how getting the ball to a wide open, career 38% corner-3 guy is still a "good" offensive possession. Getting that same look for someone like Rondae-Hollis Jefferson, well, isn't.

Re: #36 - Andre Jackson Jr

Posted: Sat Oct 7, 2023 7:39 am
by HKPackFan
Can we get a consensus between 3 letter names please?

Are we going with AJJ or are the rebels going to stick with Dre?

I'll convert either way but prefer we pick one because I keep thinking we have another guy on the roster I'm not aware of when I go back to seeing Dre.

#36 - Andre Jackson Jr

Posted: Sat Oct 7, 2023 1:19 pm
by M-C-G
HKPackFan wrote:Can we get a consensus between 3 letter names please?

Are we going with AJJ or are the rebels going to stick with Dre?

I'll convert either way but prefer we pick one because I keep thinking we have another guy on the roster I'm not aware of when I go back to seeing Dre.

AJ^2
Pronounced AJ squared

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Re: #36 - Andre Jackson Jr

Posted: Sat Oct 7, 2023 1:33 pm
by crowhead76
HKPackFan wrote:Can we get a consensus between 3 letter names please?

Are we going with AJJ or are the rebels going to stick with Dre?

I'll convert either way but prefer we pick one because I keep thinking we have another guy on the roster I'm not aware of when I go back to seeing Dre.


Just call him Winston Wolf or Mr. Wolf if you feel he deserves that type of respect.

Andre Jackson Jr > AJAX (a cleaning product) > Mr. Wolf (a cleaner)

Re: #36 - Andre Jackson Jr

Posted: Sat Oct 7, 2023 3:54 pm
by ShootingtheJ
Ron Swanson wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:
What are we doing here? PJ has been a 40% 3PT shooter the last couple years primarily off of corner-3's.


In 2 of the seasons included in the span you originally described, PJ shot 35%


If you're gonna throw out the math argument, then I'm not understanding what you're not understanding about how getting the ball to a wide open, career 38% corner-3 guy is still a "good" offensive possession. Getting that same look for someone like Rondae-Hollis Jefferson, well, isn't.


Tucker didn't become a tollerable 3 point shooter until his age 32 season. I sure hope it doesn't take AJJ that long. However, AJJ can do things Tucker couldn't even dream about, like dunk in traffic and dribble. They're significantly different players, even though neither might ever provide spacing.

Re: #36 - Andre Jackson Jr

Posted: Sat Oct 7, 2023 4:03 pm
by Swan Vox
I understand the stat-based analytical approach to determining a player's trajectory and fit, but there is just something about this kid that gives me the feeling that he'll figure out a way to be a solid contributor. He's so damn athletic & smart. That combo usually finds a way. Big fan already & can't wait to find out what he becomes for the Bucks.

Re: #36 - Andre Jackson Jr

Posted: Sat Oct 7, 2023 4:17 pm
by ShootingtheJ
Swan Vox wrote:I understand the stat-based analytical approach to determining a player's trajectory and fit, but there is just something about this kid that gives me the feeling that he'll figure out a way to be a solid contributor. He's so damn athletic & smart. That combo usually finds a way. Big fan already & can't wait to find out what he becomes for the Bucks.


This kid is actually an analytics darling in certain measure. His college team was dramatically better with him on the floor, making for easy measures of impact. It's his main intrigue.

Re: #36 - Andre Jackson Jr

Posted: Sat Oct 7, 2023 4:31 pm
by Swan Vox
ShootingtheJ wrote:
Swan Vox wrote:I understand the stat-based analytical approach to determining a player's trajectory and fit, but there is just something about this kid that gives me the feeling that he'll figure out a way to be a solid contributor. He's so damn athletic & smart. That combo usually finds a way. Big fan already & can't wait to find out what he becomes for the Bucks.


This kid is actually an analytics darling in certain measure. His college team was dramatically better with him on the floor, making for easy measures of impact. It's his main intrigue.


I guess I was mostly referring to his shooting percentages, but I'm glad to see there are numbers to back up the "intangible" impact Jackson has. Really excited to see if his game translates to the NBA.

Re: #36 - Andre Jackson Jr

Posted: Sat Oct 7, 2023 11:01 pm
by machu46
I think even if they have big plans for him, it would be good for him to start out with the Herd and see if he can expand his offensive game in that environment.

PJ was worthless offensively outside of the corner 3’s. AJJ doesn’t have that or anything else in terms of scoring right now and I’m not a believer in his creation abilities either personally.

It’s possible he’ll be able to take advantage of defenses abandoning him in the corner to cut to the rim for lobs but that’s probably not going to be something that’s consistently open.

I’m also curious to see how he’s officiated defensively. He tended to get away with a ton of blocking fouls IMO at UConn but if he’s able to avoid foul trouble in the NBA he should be very good defensively.


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Re: #36 - Andre Jackson Jr

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:51 pm
by Brewhoopfan
machu46 wrote:I think even if they have big plans for him, it would be good for him to start out with the Herd and see if he can expand his offensive game in that environment.

PJ was worthless offensively outside of the corner 3’s. AJJ doesn’t have that or anything else in terms of scoring right now and I’m not a believer in his creation abilities either personally.

It’s possible he’ll be able to take advantage of defenses abandoning him in the corner to cut to the rim for lobs but that’s probably not going to be something that’s consistently open.

I’m also curious to see how he’s officiated defensively. He tended to get away with a ton of blocking fouls IMO at UConn but if he’s able to avoid foul trouble in the NBA he should be very good defensively.


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Watching the OKC game made me think that a good comp for AJJ is Josh Giddey. Yes, a VERY poor man's Josh Giddey at this point, but Andre's vision and passing ability make him an interesting prospect. Giddey is a good example of how to be a very productive player without being a good shooter. Obviously, AJJ won't be handling the ball much playing with Giannis and Dame. Ideally, it would be great to hand him the ball with the Herd to develop those playmaking skills, but I think the Bucks will need his defense this year.

Re: #36 - Andre Jackson Jr

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:43 pm
by emunney
Read on Twitter

Re: #36 - Andre Jackson Jr

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:58 pm
by drdrG
Love that clip except for the one fast break where Giannis ran straight into AJAX?

Re: #36 - Andre Jackson Jr

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:02 pm
by emunney
drdrG wrote:Love that clip except for the one fast break where Giannis ran straight into AJAX?


Fortunately Thanasis has an internal magnet pulling him to any undefended basket.

Re: #36 - Andre Jackson Jr

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 4:05 pm
by aboveAverage
AJJ is going to be a starter and important role player as soon as this season. The kid knows basketball and he’s our best athlete outside of Giannis. Tremendous defensive potential and playmaking skills. Get him to develop a decent corner three and he’s golden.

Re: #36 - Andre Jackson Jr

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2023 10:47 pm
by tedbrogen
Hear me out: when Giannis isn’t on the floor and Dame is, AJJ should be the screener for Dame. Let him get the ball going towards the rim with the 4 on 3 advantage. Instant 10 or so minutes you can play him even if he can’t shoot at all.

Re: #36 - Andre Jackson Jr

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 2:04 am
by emunney
M-C-G wrote:
HKPackFan wrote:Can we get a consensus between 3 letter names please?

Are we going with AJJ or are the rebels going to stick with Dre?

I'll convert either way but prefer we pick one because I keep thinking we have another guy on the roster I'm not aware of when I go back to seeing Dre.

AJ^2
Pronounced AJ squared

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Love a nickname that is longer and sounds worse than the name. Mathematical notation is also a classic nickname play.

This has been emunney lightly roasting your nickname suggestion

Re: #36 - Andre Jackson Jr

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 2:12 am
by MVP2110
I've actually grown to like the idea of AJJ being the backup for Giannis. I'm not sure their lack of shooting together and coexist but I think AJJ can do alot if he's surrounded by shooting so letting AJJ get 15 min a night off the bench when giannis sits seems perfect

Re: #36 - Andre Jackson Jr

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 4:03 am
by soxperry
tedbrogen wrote:Hear me out: when Giannis isn’t on the floor and Dame is, AJJ should be the screener for Dame. Let him get the ball going towards the rim with the 4 on 3 advantage. Instant 10 or so minutes you can play him even if he can’t shoot at all.


Yeah, i'm all for that. I dont think anything like that will happen right off the bat but it would be nice.

Re: #36 - Andre Jackson Jr

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:13 pm
by jimmybones
tedbrogen wrote:Hear me out: when Giannis isn’t on the floor and Dame is, AJJ should be the screener for Dame. Let him get the ball going towards the rim with the 4 on 3 advantage. Instant 10 or so minutes you can play him even if he can’t shoot at all.


And a perfect defensive sidekick for Dame

Re: #36 - Andre Jackson Jr

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 8:02 pm
by skones
Just went out and casually grabbed Warriors Iguodala on the 2nd round.